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LProf
12-11-2012, 01:32 PM
I am looking for a single stack 9mm to use as my EDC. At this point, I am undecided between the CM9 and CW9.
I shot a friend' s CM9 and loved it, but have not found a CW9 yet to shoot. I also believe in practicing with the gun you carry, so go to the range almost weekly.
My question is whether the CM9 and/or the CW9 are sturdy enough to put thousands of rounds through them and still remain reliable, given that it will be my main carry gun.
I currently have a Kel-Tec PF-9, which broke at the 1,500 round mark, and although Kel-Tec fixed it, I can no longer trust it with what could be my life.
I also have a M&Pc, which has 5,000 flawless rounds through it, but want a lighter and thinner single stack for carry.
I would greatly appreciate learning of the experiences of other Forum members.
Deano
12-11-2012, 01:42 PM
CM9 is t*ts and then some. Can't imagine a better carry weapon. I think the extra size of the CW9 would make me want to leave home without it.
Short Bus
12-11-2012, 02:19 PM
For the answer you need to ask yourself "Self, do I want my pinky on the grip or under it?" For me, I want my pinky ON the grip.
LProf
12-11-2012, 02:31 PM
I appreciate your responses, but understand the size difference, my main question relates to durability after a lot of rounds and continued reliability.
rjt123
12-11-2012, 02:56 PM
Kahr's are like a tank. Or the Energizer bunny. They just keep shooting and shooting.
Kahr recommends changing the recoil spring assembly every 1500 rounds or so, but they will go much longer than that before any problems manifest. Sort of like changing the oil in your car.
Our own resident Kahrtalk example is Jocko, who has a documented 32,000+ rounds through his customized PM9. I think he got tired of counting and quit doing it. :)
jocko
12-11-2012, 03:02 PM
buy the cm9, u will never look back on it. Just sayin. Had it been offered when I bought my PM9, I would have bought the cm9..
LProf
12-11-2012, 03:32 PM
Thanks, sounds great. By the way, what is the warranty on Kahr guns, can't seem to find it on their website?
LProf
12-11-2012, 03:35 PM
Just realized that I started my thread in the wrong sub forum.Sorry about that. Moderators, please move, if necessary
jocko
12-11-2012, 04:02 PM
5 years
Back outside page of owner manual..
LProf
12-11-2012, 06:08 PM
5 years
Back outside page of owner manual..
Thanks.
forestranger
12-11-2012, 08:33 PM
I like both. Got the CW9 first and shortly after the CM9. Both shoot about the same for me so practicing with one kinda helps stay in practice with both. The CW is for IWB and CM for pocket for me. If I hadn't been such a tightwad, I'd a bought a P9 and PM9 years ago and saved buying 8 or 9 handguns I bought in search for "perfect" carry gun.:o As far as durability, I'll be 66 tomorrow and expect both guns will outlast me.
LProf
12-12-2012, 07:22 AM
Since I shot a friend's CM9, using both the 6 round and 7 round magazines, and Loved it. Great accuracy and ergonomics, I am thinking that if I bought a CM9, I could pocket carry with the 6 round mag and carry with an IWB holster, using the 7 round mag, when I can untuck my shirt.
Am I correct that the CW9 would not be easy to pocket carry?
Hunter991
12-12-2012, 09:08 AM
i have both. I like the CM to carry, but the CW can be carried too although i wouldn't consider that a pocket pistol. I just got the CM and haven't shot it yet, but my CW is perfect. Love it and has held up well. i have put 150 rds thru it and its just breaking in. I haven't had one FTF.
BEARDOG
12-12-2012, 09:45 AM
Since I shot a friend's CM9, using both the 6 round and 7 round magazines, and Loved it. Great accuracy and ergonomics, I am thinking that if I bought a CM9, I could pocket carry with the 6 round mag and carry with an IWB holster, using the 7 round mag, when I can untuck my shirt.
Am I correct that the CW9 would not be easy to pocket carry?
Correct.
The CM9 is much better in that role. I bought the CW9 first. (Great gun, love it, but better for IWB carry IMO)... and the CM9 second, (the very first day they were released for sale) because of how much I liked my CW9. If both were available when I got my first Kahr it would have been the CM9 as it is just a bit more versatile.
Here are mine side by side.
http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae70/BeardogV1/P1040768.jpg
LProf
12-12-2012, 10:45 AM
Correct.
The CM9 is much better in that role. I bought the CW9 first. (Great gun, love it, but better for IWB carry IMO)... and the CM9 second, (the very first day they were released for sale) because of how much I liked my CW9. If both were available when I got my first Kahr it would have been the CM9 as it is just a bit more versatile.
Here are mine side by side.
http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae70/BeardogV1/P1040768.jpg
Thanks. That is what I thought. I have actually been carrying my friend's CM9 in a Panther IWB holster with the 7 round mag, just to see if it was comfortable and it seems to work very well.
MW surveyor
12-12-2012, 11:38 AM
Am I correct that the CW9 would not be easy to pocket carry?
It really depends on the size of the pocket. I've no problems with my CW9 when wearing cargo shorts or other pants that have larger pockets. However, that being said, if the CM9 would have been available when I got my CW9, I would have bought it.
BTW - using the 7 round mag for the CM9 kind of defeats the purpose of the gun to be able to be pocket carried easily.
jocko
12-12-2012, 12:38 PM
oh it can be done but the c9 does a much better job in that area of carry. If I was gonna waiste band carry it wold be the cw for the one more round thing..
Deano
12-12-2012, 12:39 PM
...BTW - using the 7 round mag for the CM9 kind of defeats the purpose of the gun to be able to be pocket carried easily.I agree with this. I carry the CM9 with 6+1 in chamber. I carry the 7 rounders as spares. Whether IWB or pocket, the 7 rounder sticks out too far.
Harleyrider
12-14-2012, 01:34 PM
I find the CW to be more comfortable to hold, but for me, concealability (whether in a pocket holster or on the waist band) is more important, so I went with the CM. No regrets.
godan
12-14-2012, 06:45 PM
I have both. While I recognize that the grip size may be an issue for some people, it has not been for me over a few thousand rounds. Whether my pinky goes around or under affects neither speed nor accuracy. For Kahrs, I think the central issue is to learn the trigger pull. There is a noticeable difference in how they conceal in an IWB holster on my 5'7", 145 lb., boxer's body. The CM9 is much better. Also, while not ideal, the CM9 is marginally pocketable in some pants. The CW9 needs a winter coat pocket. Your size and shape may vary.
deputy tom
12-14-2012, 07:51 PM
I wanted a CM9 and couldn't find one so I bought a CW9. I broke it in and was happy. My daughter wanted it for CCW so I gave it to her. I went out to replace the CW9 and found the CM9 at a good price and snapped it up. I broke it in and it is now my EDC pistol in a pocket holster.Both are great values but my bottom line is I would have been happy either way. YMMV. tom.:cool:
ESAFO
12-17-2012, 06:04 PM
i have big hands but i still preferred the CM alot better, for this simple fact of the ease of cc.
even though the CW fit my hand completely i do not regret the CM purchase, i just picked up a few 7rd mags (mk720) for the range.
now you still have the full feel of the CW, but the perfect cc either in a holster or your pocket.
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