buddy's house just broken into

[knkali]

got his M1A and AR. Thinks the alarm didnt give them enough time to grab his Remmy 870 , his AK or his XD. Middle of the day house with an alarm and they had to go through a neighbor's yard with a dog to get to his house. Crooks got balls

[muggsy]

got his M1A and AR. Thinks the alarm didnt give them enough time to grab his Remmy 870 , his AK or his XD. Middle of the day house with an alarm and they had to go through a neighbor's yard with a dog to get to his house. Crooks got balls

Did your buddy have a gun safe? It's cheap insurance.

[knkali]

no. I gonna have to look into one myself. Hate to do it though. Like my stuff at the ready and feel if I get one the bad guys won. But that aside, your right.

[getsome]

Man I hate to hear that...Just what we don't need, idiot jacked up bad guys with high powered rifles on the loose....I ordered a gun safe from Lowes last weekend and it will be here next week...I too hate to have to lock my guns up but trust me it's better than trying to get them back even if the Police do recover them....I spent a year and a half trying to get my stolen/recovered 1911 back from the cops only to find it was destroyed due to no owner information which was a total crock....I only hope my safe gets here before something happens again..Good luck to your friend and I hope they find and fry the scum bags that did it!!!!

[Bawanna]

They probably won't punish him. He had a bad childhood and wasn't breast fed. He just needs someone to understand his plight and give him the things he needs to succeed in life, like your and my stuff to pawn to buy meth.
It's really your friends fault for not having a several thousand dollar safe to prevent the poor guy from stealing and possibly getting in trouble with the law. I mean guns right out in the open inside your house where anyone could just take one or two or all of them. Not good.

It's really an increasing issue and totally understandable under these current trying times.

I'm sure if bummer had a son he'd look just like the fella that robbed your buddy, in fact I can almost guarantee it.

[downtownv]

They probably won't punish him. He had a bad childhood and wasn't breast fed. He just needs someone to understand his plight and give him the things he needs to succeed in life, like your and my stuff to pawn to buy meth.
It's really your friends fault for not having a several thousand dollar safe to prevent the poor guy from stealing and possibly getting in trouble with the law. I mean guns right out in the open inside your house where anyone could just take one or two or all of them. Not good.

It's really an increasing issue and totally understandable under these current trying times.

I'm sure if bummer had a son he'd look just like the fella that robbed your buddy, in fact I can almost guarantee it.
Waaaaah another misunderstood soul out there....

[knkali]

They probably won't punish him. He had a bad childhood and wasn't breast fed. He just needs someone to understand his plight and give him the things he needs to succeed in life, like your and my stuff to pawn to buy meth.
It's really your friends fault for not having a several thousand dollar safe to prevent the poor guy from stealing and possibly getting in trouble with the law. I mean guns right out in the open inside your house where anyone could just take one or two or all of them. Not good.

It's really an increasing issue and totally understandable under these current trying times.

I'm sure if bummer had a son he'd look just like the fella that robbed your buddy, in fact I can almost guarantee it.

Yep you are colorfully saying that these j azzes make it our problem and another layer of bs that we have to deal with.

[Bawanna]

Yep you are colorfully saying that these j azzes make it our problem and another layer of bs that we have to deal with.

I seem to be on a colorful jazzy saying roll today. We just take so much of this BS that you reach a point where you want to speak the truth and look back and see how history has handled this stuff.

This kind of stuff just didn't happen much 50 or even 30 years ago, sure some and more in some areas than others but now it happens a lot because the system lets it.

It's no longer the bad guys fault for anything. You get our car stole it's because you left the keys in it and let a good guy go bad.
Steal from your house, you might have left the door unlocked. How could anyone pass that up.

Single parents, both parents working with kids in day care, drugs, welfare, and now gay marriage and marijuana in my state, that ought to help things out a lot.

[knkali]

we lost the golden rule

[les strat]

we lost the golden rule

Bingo.

And corporal punishment.

[downtownv]

I seem to be on a colorful jazzy saying roll today. We just take so much of this BS that you reach a point where you want to speak the truth and look back and see how history has handled this stuff.

This kind of stuff just didn't happen much 50 or even 30 years ago, sure some and more in some areas than others but now it happens a lot because the system lets it.

It's no longer the bad guys fault for anything. You get our car stole it's because you left the keys in it and let a good guy go bad.
Steal from your house, you might have left the door unlocked. How could anyone pass that up.

Single parents, both parents working with kids in day care, drugs, welfare, and now gay marriage and marijuana in my state, that ought to help things out a lot.

It's about the money! Lawyers and Judges create a law and create more potential revenue.
Gay divorce cost 60% more, drug laws make drug defendants etc..... Kabeesh?:9:

[Popeye]

When I hear things like this it makes me wonder just how much gun talk is going on outside the house, to who, and where? We used to have a saying in the Navy loose lips sink ships. It will also get your guns stolen.
I have to tell you I hear it all the time,guys bragging about there guns in places they shouldn't be. What else was stolen, or were they basically after the guns. Sounds to me the way the OP wote it up is they knew about the guns if they knew they had to cross a backyard with a dog in it to get away. Surely they were not after big screen TV's. Talking about guns on the net is one thing, but talking about them in front of people who can follow you home to see where you live is another. Even when you leave the gun range or GS after you bought a gun it's not a bad idea to check your rear view mirror a couple of times. If you really wanted to you can learn alot in a GS or a range,Facebook,or better yet a bar, or social event where there is alcohol about people, what they have, and where they live. Don't think BG's are stupid there not, there just scumbags and as my detective neighbor says you have to think like a BG to stop a BG. Just saying be careful what you say, because you never know who's really listening. Darned shame his guns are gone, but it's even a bigger shame that now there is two more high capicity, high powered rifles out there on the streets.:(

[JFootin]

It is for this reason and for fire protection that I am seriously looking at getting a safe. Home Depot has a 1.2 cu ft fire safe (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202988374/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=SentrySafe&storeId=10051) for $159 that I am looking at for my small pistol collection, my camera and some important papers. For those with more guns, more room and more money, a larger safe can be purchased for about the cost of one gun. Doesn't that seem like a wise investment?

[knkali]

When I hear things like this it makes me wonder just how much gun talk is going on outside the house, to who, and where? We used to have a saying in the Navy loose lips sink ships. It will also get your guns stolen.
I have to tell you I hear it all the time,guys bragging about there guns in places they shouldn't be. What else was stolen, or were they basically after the guns. Sounds to me the way the OP wote it up is they knew about the guns if they knew they had to cross a backyard with a dog in it to get away. Surely they were not after big screen TV's. Talking about guns on the net is one thing, but talking about them in front of people who can follow you home to see where you live is another. Even when you leave the gun range or GS after you bought a gun it's not a bad idea to check your rear view mirror a couple of times. If you really wanted to you can learn alot in a GS or a range,Facebook,or better yet a bar, or social event where there is alcohol about people, what they have, and where they live. Don't think BG's are stupid there not, there just scumbags and as my detective neighbor says you have to think like a BG to stop a BG. Just saying be careful what you say, because you never know who's really listening. Darned shame his guns are gone, but it's even a bigger shame that now there is two more high capicity, high powered rifles out there on the streets.:(

you are spot on. It was an "inside" job since it was just about the guns. He has a feeling who it might have been but there isnt a damn thing he can do about it unless he does a Jack Bauer on em. I guess he too will have to get a safe.

[Popeye]

you are spot on. It was an "inside" job since it was just about the guns. He has a feeling who it might have been but there isnt a damn thing he can do about it unless he does a Jack Bauer on em. I guess he too will have to get a safe.

I am not suprised to hear that even a little bit. When it comes to your guns.Be Vewy ,Vewy Quiet
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[CB3]

In today's world I cannot imagine not locking up my valuables, including my firearms.

In addition to a quality, large hidden gun safe (that cannot be moved) I have a long gun safe secured with a steel cable under my bed, and numerous quick access handgun safes bolted in place around the house. I always have a loaded handgun on me or within a few steps. When I leave the house there is nothing of real value to burglars that they can get their hands without a lot of time and effort.

My monitored alarm system and the dogs will convince anyone foolish enough to try breaking in that it is not worth the effort. Our police response time is under 3 minutes. I have a number of other passive security systems in play at all times. It does take some time and money to get set up like this, but it is not just for the guns. It is for the family. This is obviously not a rental unit.

When all I could afford was a thin-walled steel locking gun cabinet, that's what I got. Probably mostly effective for keeping kids away from items that could hurt them, but at least I had something. That safe is still part of my plan, being in the garage and containing non-essentials. It would probably be one of the first things thieves would see, and spending time on that unit delays other more productive endeavors.

Make the effort. Spend the money. You won't ever regret it.

[muggsy]

no. I gonna have to look into one myself. Hate to do it though. Like my stuff at the ready and feel if I get one the bad guys won. But that aside, your right.

I keep all of my guns in a safe except for the one I'm carrying. I'm ready 24/7.

[muggsy]

They probably won't punish him. He had a bad childhood and wasn't breast fed. He just needs someone to understand his plight and give him the things he needs to succeed in life, like your and my stuff to pawn to buy meth.
It's really your friends fault for not having a several thousand dollar safe to prevent the poor guy from stealing and possibly getting in trouble with the law. I mean guns right out in the open inside your house where anyone could just take one or two or all of them. Not good.

It's really an increasing issue and totally understandable under these current trying times.

I'm sure if bummer had a son he'd look just like the fella that robbed your buddy, in fact I can almost guarantee it.

I was breast fed, but I was weaned way too soon. :)

[muggsy]

I seem to be on a colorful jazzy saying roll today. We just take so much of this BS that you reach a point where you want to speak the truth and look back and see how history has handled this stuff.

This kind of stuff just didn't happen much 50 or even 30 years ago, sure some and more in some areas than others but now it happens a lot because the system lets it.

It's no longer the bad guys fault for anything. You get our car stole it's because you left the keys in it and let a good guy go bad.
Steal from your house, you might have left the door unlocked. How could anyone pass that up.

Single parents, both parents working with kids in day care, drugs, welfare, and now gay marriage and marijuana in my state, that ought to help things out a lot.

+1 I'm with you on that one, Bawanna. Crime is prevalent because we allow it to be. If we the people gave our elected officials one term to clean up crime or be replaced they would clean it up in a heartbeat. We're too concerned with the rights of the criminal and not concerned enough with the rights of the victims of crime. I'm all for cruel and unusual punishment.

[AC7880]

I have a Honeywell Firesafe about that same size in my motorhome. I keep important documents, extra checkbooks and credit cards, and pistol when it's "home alone" in the safe. It's out of visual sight unless you look for it, and mounted with liquid nails and 2 screws.

It is designed for fire resistance more than for theft resistance, but does offer some protection. It has a punch button electonic combo, with a master key for backup. I have the master key very well hidden.




It is for this reason and for fire protection that I am seriously looking at getting a safe. Home Depot has a 1.2 cu ft fire safe (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202988374/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=SentrySafe&storeId=10051) for $159 that I am looking at for my small pistol collection, my camera and some important papers. For those with more guns, more room and more money, a larger safe can be purchased for about the cost of one gun. Doesn't that seem like a wise investment?

[muggsy]

My son picked up a very nice gun safe at an estate sale. It cost him more to have it delivered and bolted to the floor than what he paid for it. He changed the combination himself.