View Full Version : CW9, break in is flawless, Plasti-Lube
kuchman
12-16-2012, 07:19 PM
I recently purchased my first Kahr handgun, the CW9. I did a lot of research to esttle in on this weapon. I replaced a Glock that I liked to shoot, but I had trouble pointing it well. The Glock fit in MY hand as it related to pointability was a challenge. Of course, this was just me.
I cleaned the new weapon per the information on the posts located here in this forum, thanks for the information.
The first 50 rounds went flawless. I cleaned again, the second 50 flawless again! Wow, it was functioning flawlessly.
I live in Minnesota and I am lucky to have a an outdoor area I setup for my shooting; its not great, but I can go when I want, at no charge.
I have lubed the gun with a product called Plasti Lube. I shot highpower rifle competetivly a few years back and I used it on an M1A as well as on my AR with great success.
Today it was 20 degrees and I was skepical of this product's performace in the cold weather, but the 3rd group of 50 rounds all went bang with again, no problems.
I don't know if anyone has any experience with this lube, but so far it is working great for me.
Thank you to all who provide their experiences and information to this forum.
:)
JFootin
12-16-2012, 08:37 PM
Welcome to the forum! :) Sounds like you're off to a good start with your CW9 - a great shooting gun. Let me give you some good advice: get a PJ IWB holster (http://pjholster.com/?page_id=37) with over the belt clip and a decent cant, put it at about 4:00 with a good belt and I am telling you the truth - it will ride so comfortably there that you won't be able to tell it is there without reaching back there and touching the gun! It is just an amazing holster! Weighs about an ounce, is thin as paper and no bigger than it has to be, yet it is indestructible. It is the perfect carry solution for your CW9.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/PJIWBBeltHookHolster-1.jpg
espresso
12-16-2012, 09:22 PM
Hi Kuchman welcome aboard
After a few hundred rounds that CW9 should smooth out a good bit mine felt like a different gun after a few trips to the range. Great CC gun for sure I love mine enjoy yours.
Short Bus
12-16-2012, 11:03 PM
Welcome to the forum! :) Sounds like you're off to a good start with your CW9 - a great shooing gun. Let me give you some good advice: get a PJ IWB holster (http://pjholster.com/?page_id=37) with over the belt clip and a decent cant, put it at about 4:00 with a good belt and I am telling you the truth - it will ride so comfortably there that you won't be able to tell it is there without reaching back there and touching the gun! It is just an amazing holster! Weighs about an ounce, is thin as paper and no bigger than it has to be, yet it is indestructible. It is the perfect carry solution for your CW9.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/PJIWBBeltHookHolster-1.jpg
Or if you don't want to wait, get a Foxx Trapp. I'm sure PJ makes a good product, but I wouldn't want to wait that long as I normally only have 1 handgun :(
http://foxxholsters.onlybusiness.com/OnlineCatalog/FoxX_Trapp__All_Kydex_IWB_Holster-details.aspx
JFootin
12-17-2012, 07:38 AM
Or if you don't want to wait, get a Foxx Trapp. I'm sure PJ makes a good product, but I wouldn't want to wait that long as I normally only have 1 handgun :(
http://foxxholsters.onlybusiness.com/OnlineCatalog/FoxX_Trapp__All_Kydex_IWB_Holster-details.aspx
Sorry, Short Bus, but the FoxX Trapp is made out of thicker kydex, is bulkier and not shaped as well. I'll guarantee it isn't as magically comfortable as the PJ. I know from experience buying holsters from a lot of makers. There are tons of kydex holsters being made and most of them are thicker and bulkier like the FoxX Trapp, but there is something truly amazing about the PJ holsters, with comfort that is far superior. The only reason you have to wait a couple of weeks for a PJ is because the comfort and quality of his holsters have made them VERY POPULAR! The wait time is not unusual at all for holsters that are made one at a time to the customer's specific desires. Paul will work with you on ride height, cant, tightness of hold to the gun. I am currently waiting for a holster that is taking 9 weeks to produce, and I am on the waiting list for another one that might take over 1/2 a year. Impatience won't get you as good results. If you need something to carry your CW9 in in the mean time, pick up a $5-10 nylon Uncle Mike's holster at your local gun store or maybe even Walmart. If you get one with a thumb break retaining strap, it could still serve you as a rough duty field holster after you get your PJ. :D
hardluk1
12-17-2012, 02:25 PM
Kuchman Looks like some missed the indorement of the Plasti-Coat. Turned it into a holster tread on you.
Thanks for the product heads up. You might want to compair it to Pro-Shot Pro-gold for a heavy lube and there Zero friction for a lite lube needs. I started useing the pro gold on the advise of a old master gunsmith and more recently found the zero friction for general lite lube needs.
http://www.proshotproducts.com/Pro-Gold-1-oz-jar_p_616.html
http://www.proshotproducts.com/Zero-Friction-1-oz-Needle-Oiler_p_618.html
I have a cw9 and cm9 that both like yours need no real brake in . Simply worked well. What ammo are you useing for first rounds fired. Is it a 124gr load? Good luck with your kahr.
http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l444/hardluk1/th_107_4089.jpg (http://s331.photobucket.com/albums/l444/hardluk1/?action=view¤t=107_4089.jpg)
jocko
12-17-2012, 06:30 PM
I recently purchased my first Kahr handgun, the CW9. I did a lot of research to esttle in on this weapon. I replaced a Glock that I liked to shoot, but I had trouble pointing it well. The Glock fit in MY hand as it related to pointability was a challenge. Of course, this was just me.
I cleaned the new weapon per the information on the posts located here in this forum, thanks for the information.
The first 50 rounds went flawless. I cleaned again, the second 50 flawless again! Wow, it was functioning flawlessly.
I live in Minnesota and I am lucky to have a an outdoor area I setup for my shooting; its not great, but I can go when I want, at no charge.
I have lubed the gun with a product called Plasti Lube. I shot highpower rifle competetivly a few years back and I used it on an M1A as well as on my AR with great success.
Today it was 20 degrees and I was skepical of this product's performace in the cold weather, but the 3rd group of 50 rounds all went bang with again, no problems.
I don't know if anyone has any experience with this lube, but so far it is working great for me.
Thank you to all who provide their experiences and information to this forum.
:)
again anutter good tip on anutter good gun lube. I never heardof it but that doesn't say nutting. U bought a dandy kahr, and y bet is U WILL BE BACK SOON with anutter kahr gun report..
welcome aboard. watch out for guys here like JFootin, Muggsy,Tinman, Grotman, pay strict attention to ol jocko and u will be ok and well protected on this forum, agree with everything I say and we will be really good buddies. Some here will tellu that is not good to be on my non-buddy list. Just sayin.
kuchman
12-17-2012, 07:36 PM
Thanks jocko, I appreciate the insight.
I am actually thinking of a De Santis Top Cop for OWB carry. I am a little "full figured" and feel the IWB holster might be a little "lumpy". I know there aren't many others like me, (that full figured type) but does anyone have any experience on this type of carry??
I like the PJ holster's design and it sounds as though that most others on this site do as well.
By the way, I have a CW45 in my "sights" in the not too distant future. I own a Springfield 1911, semi-juiced up, and love that firearm and cartridge, too.
You guys know, this gun disease is GREAT!
God Bless the families and survivors of the horrible attack in CT.
JFootin
12-17-2012, 07:59 PM
Well, kuchman, I am a real big fan of the PJ holster. I have a good sized middle aged spread and a spare tire. I am a lefty and my CM9 rides in the PJ at about 8:00 so comfortably that it seems to disappear. Paul does something really magic with the shape of the holster so that it and the gun just become a part of my body. It doesn't shift or move when I am moving around, so the mass of the gun cannot be felt. The one that I recommend is the IWB with the over the belt clip and a decent cant (http://pjholster.com/?page_id=37).
kuchman
12-18-2012, 08:28 PM
Hey jfootin, thanks. I am a lefty as well. And I appreciate the feedback. I actually e-mailed Paul at PJ last night and am looking into an OWB and an IWB as well. I will definitely check the unit out you recommend.
Thanks.
PS
I told everyone that I use Plasti-Kote for lube. I pulled the gun apart and was really impressed with how this product held up, try it if you need another option.
JFootin
12-19-2012, 07:54 AM
Is this what you are talking about?
PlastiKote Dry Graphite Lubricant (http://www.plastikote.com/products/Specialty/Dry-Graphite.html)
Very interesting.....
LorenzoB
12-19-2012, 08:19 AM
I have dry graphite lube for key holes, is it the same kind of stuff? Graphite powder is really messy and gets everywhere. Sounds interesting if it is not dirty/messy.
hardluk1
12-19-2012, 03:20 PM
Plasilube - http://tds.loctite.com/tds5/docs/PLASTILUBE-EN.PDF
http://civilianmarksmanship.com/accessoryhtml/accgreasepots.html
kuchman
12-19-2012, 07:13 PM
hardluk1, that is the stuff! Thanks for the research.;)
Short Bus
12-19-2012, 09:34 PM
Sorry, Short Bus, but the FoxX Trapp is made out of thicker kydex, is bulkier and not shaped as well. I'll guarantee it isn't as magically comfortable as the PJ. I know from experience buying holsters from a lot of makers. There are tons of kydex holsters being made and most of them are thicker and bulkier like the FoxX Trapp, but there is something truly amazing about the PJ holsters, with comfort that is far superior. The only reason you have to wait a couple of weeks for a PJ is because the comfort and quality of his holsters have made them VERY POPULAR! The wait time is not unusual at all for holsters that are made one at a time to the customer's specific desires. Paul will work with you on ride height, cant, tightness of hold to the gun. I am currently waiting for a holster that is taking 9 months to produce, and I am on the waiting list for another one that might take over 1/2 a year. Impatience won't get you as good results. If you need something to carry your CW9 in in the mean time, pick up a $5-10 nylon Uncle Mike's holster at your local gun store or maybe even Walmart. If you get one with a thumb break retaining strap, it could still serve you as a rough duty field holster after you get your PJ. :D
The Trapp is actually made from thinner kydex than the standard PJ. The Trapp is 0.060 and the PJ is 0.80 with the 0.60 as an option. IDK, I haven't tried the PJ, but I would guess the Trap is on par with the tuckable PJ. I agree, I waited about a month and a half to two months for a horse hide Theis holster (http://theisholsters.com/index.php) for the LC9 I had.
JFootin
12-19-2012, 10:11 PM
The Trapp is actually made from thinner kydex than the standard PJ. The Trapp is 0.060 and the PJ is 0.80 with the 0.60 as an option. IDK, I haven't tried the PJ, but I would guess the Trap is on par with the tuckable PJ. I agree, I waited about a month and a half to two months for a horse hide Theis holster (http://theisholsters.com/index.php) for the LC9 I had.
No. The PJ IWB is made of 0.60 as well. The OWB is the one that is thicker. You can see from pictures how much smaller it is. There is not an extra millimeter there that isn't needed. And it is rounded and contoured so that it is perfectly comfortable.
Short Bus
12-20-2012, 04:39 AM
No. The PJ IWB is made of 0.60 as well. The OWB is the one that is thicker. You can see from pictures how much smaller it is. There is not an extra millimeter there that isn't needed. And it is rounded and contoured so that it is perfectly comfortable.
Here's were I got my info on the PJ http://pjholster.com/?page_id=382 I can't say how close the 2 holsters are, but I'm guessing they're both good holsters. Do you have a Trapp also? If not maybe itsthelaw will give us a comparison. I'm not saying the foxx is better, or even as good, I'm saying it works great for me, good enough that I don't see a need to get a PJ. In fact it works so well, sometimes I forget it's there.
For a Foxx Trapp thread
I have a PJ Holster that I am starting to really like, so I will be able to compare.
I've been really happy with the synthetic "green" marine grease. Green in that its actually bright green. There's also a blue and red formula.... Green seems to stay put on things - locking areas of barrels.
Anything else - rails and such, no grease, just break free.
For a while, folks in the Custom 45 world (now known as the 1911 world) were extolling the virtues of Mobil 1.
Seems every generation has its favorite goo for guns.
muggsy
12-20-2012, 07:31 AM
+1 On cleaning every 50 rounds during the break-in period. A lot of newbies try to run 200 hundred rounds of the cheapest ammo that they can find in one range session and then wonder why they experience problems. You're taking the right approach.
hardluk1
12-20-2012, 12:10 PM
Muggsy Just know with good ammo, quality lubes, maybe good cleaning skills up front and decent shooter skill these kahr will easily run 600 rounds with no extra cleaning or extra lube . Good way to also find out if the handgun is picky about haveing to be spotless. Maybe I have been lucky but I have never owned a picky firearm when it comes to cleaning or ammo in 43 years. I did the same thing with my two KT's I had.
kuchman
12-22-2012, 10:06 AM
Guys, you are dead on! I have owned several firearms, some I shot in highpower competitively, some I shot in Bullseye competitively (ya I know, bullseye was not for me either), and in every case, multiple cleaning sessions from the initial breakin were invaluable. I have NEVER had any handgun that had cycling or operation problems after say about 150-200 rounds that was the guns fault. Ammo, limp wristing, yes, but not the guns fault.
It goes without saying, that procedures and instructions are an important part of initial operation. Good luck everyone, Merry Chrismas
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