What assault weapon problem?

[muggsy]

Between 2000 and 2010 Armalite, Bushmaster, Colt, DPMS, Olympic Arms, Rock River Arms, Smith and Wesson and Stag Arms produced 1,665,868 AR-15s for domestic use. Of those, only a few have been used in mass killings. The AR-15 isn't an assault weapon. It's a paramilitary semiautomatic rifle. It is used by the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, Police, and by law abiding civilians who participate in competitive and recreational shooting sports. The AR-15 is also used for protection. I suggest that if you want to hang onto your AR-15 you write individual letters to your elected officials and let them know these facts. Don't waste your time on petitions that will never be read. One letter equals one vote and that is the only thing that a politician understands.

[ptoemmes]

I believe that the Bushmaster (and presumably similar AR-15 variants) were NOT considered "assault weapons" (if I read below link correctly) under the 2004 expired Federal Assault Weapons Ban legislation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

But, point being, was not all AR-15s.

Still, a letter to our reps is a good suggestion.

Pete

[JustinN]

It simply looks at the "features of the gun", so a Bushmaster "could" be an assault weapon, or not. And that is assuming they go with a similar banand don't just say "semi-auto firearms". I would not for second think "we'll, they might only ban certain models". They will be grabbing for as much as possible.

[jocko]

a good poit and u can be assured the NRA will be at every politicians door to fully explain the differences etc. Just gotta hope that some COMMON sense here will prevail.

Give um a chance and they will grab um all...

[Barth]

a good poit and u can be assured the NRA will be at every politicians door to fully explain the differences etc. Just gotta hope that some COMMON sense here will prevail.

Give um a chance and they will grab um all...

Years ago I remember seeing fictitious programs about children being murdered.
Followed by endless sensationalized news coverage and mass hysteria.
Culminating in political drum beating, loss of freedom and injustice.

This scenario seemed outrageous and over dramatized at the time.
I was very wrong about that...

[muggsy]

We cannot allow the progressive socialists to frame the argument with inflammatory terminology such as "assault weapon". An assault weapon could be any weapon used in an assault. We have to speak with one voice and stick to our guns. None of these guns were designed to be assault weapons. If they had been designed for that purpose they would have come with a selector switch and would be capable of being fired in a fully automatic mode. Wake up people. The Obama administration will be pushing for legislation that requires federal registration of all firearms and registration leads to confiscation. We are in a battle for our freedom. That's why I'm a life member of the NRA.

[jocko]

I guess we can callthe Beretta M9 an assualt weapon as it is our primary military weapon. Doesnt matter to the politicians that the Berette 9 was made available tothe public long before it was ever put into our military arsenal. So where do we stop with the definition of assuat weapon.

Can u possably believe a$$holes like Pelosie and Reed will use any common sense towards this gun ban. They will use their powers o their lower political people to bully their way. Its a game with them nuttin more. Most live in glass houses with goverment paid security...

[steve666]

http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q730/Steve666t/Feinswine_zpse38cf3dd.jpg

[JohnR]

Your fists are assault weapons.

Politicians' mouths are assault weapons.


At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.

An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and Tort Law. There is, however, an additional Criminal Law category of assault consisting of an attempted but unsuccessful Battery.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/assault

[jocko]

wow, is that not a sad sight, one is made up to look ugly and the utter is just born ugly and never improved...

I oftenwonder which one is on top at night??/ Just sayin

I often call people likeher and Pelois TWO SACKERS. U put a sack over her head andone over yourhead when making love, that way if one sack falls off ur still safe..

[JustinN]

I often call people likeher and Pelois TWO SACKERS.

Jocko,

You're pretty hard up to even take a chance with climbing in with something like that, sacks or not....but if you were going to I'd assume the only safe thing to do would be to cut your eyes out first, to make sure you don't accidentally see anything...and maybe some numbing creme on your hands, in case you're extra good at being able to picture what you're feeling...

[Armybrat]

Between 2000 and 2010 Armalite, Bushmaster, Colt, DPMS, Olympic Arms, Rock River Arms, Smith and Wesson and Stag Arms produced 1,665,868 AR-15s for domestic use. Of those, only a few have been used in mass killings. The AR-15 isn't an assault weapon. It's a paramilitary semiautomatic rifle. It is used by the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, Police, and by law abiding civilians who participate in competitive and recreational shooting sports. The AR-15 is also used for protection. I suggest that if you want to hang onto your AR-15 you write individual letters to your elected officials and let them know these facts. Don't waste your time on petitions that will never be read. One letter equals one vote and that is the only thing that a politician understands.

I wonder how many were built before 2000, not to mention all the Mini-14s, FNs and the like that are out in America? Also, I wonder how many millions of hi-cap mags there are floatin' around?

[ptoemmes]

Kind of rhetorical, but I wonder if "we" would have been better off if the 2004 "ban" legislation had been renewed. The devil you know versus the devil you don't. On the other had it was a foot in the door that was removed.

I also hope that the upcoming fight has at least an element of discussing the right things as others here have put forth so eloquently. I hope the NRA can steer it, at least partially, in that direction instead of "just" digging in its heels, but not taking the eye of the ball (second amendment).

Becoming more like North Korea by even detouring to full the retroactive confiscation slippery slope is not an option.

The media, purposefully perhaps, ignores that facts that this lunatic child murderer:
1) stole legally registered weapons
2) the Bushmaster would not have been considered an "assault weapon" under the 2004 legislation (nor should it have been).

Preachin' to the choir I know.

[knkali]

Kind of rhetorical, but I wonder if "we" would have been better off if the 2004 "ban" legislation had been renewed. The devil you know versus the devil you don't. On the other had it was a foot in the door that was removed.

I also hope that the upcoming fight has at least an element of discussing the right things as others here have put forth so eloquently. I hope the NRA can steer it, at least partially, in that direction instead of "just" digging in its heels, but not taking the eye of the ball (second amendment).

Becoming more like North Korea by even detouring to full the retroactive confiscation slippery slope is not an option.

The media, purposefully perhaps, ignores that facts that this lunatic child murderer:
1) stole legally registered weapons
2) the Bushmaster would not have been considered an "assault weapon" under the 2004 legislation (nor should it have been).

Preachin' to the choir I know.

"Stole legally registered weapons" isnt a point that will help us. The antigunners will use this to say.."see, if guns are not around, people could not steal them or have easy access to them to do bad things" Bawanna said it earlier. I'll paraphrase-- Because a holes break into your house and steal your property, you are the bad guy. What didnt you do to secure your stuff? As if getting robbed is the constant so the robber is not the focus. It is what you have/have not done to prevent being robbed that is important.

Until this backward logic changes, the fact that the guns were legally obtained means nothing.

[muggsy]

What I find most ironic is that when it suited the governments purpose they placed an M-16 and a 1911 A-1 in the hands of 18 year old kids and told them to kill. Now that that those same kids are adults they don't trust them to own a semi-auto AR-15.

[jocko]

Jocko,

You're pretty hard up to even take a chance with climbing in with something like that, sacks or not....but if you were going to I'd assume the only safe thing to do would be to cut your eyes out first, to make sure you don't accidentally see anything...and maybe some numbing creme on your hands, in case you're extra good at being able to picture what you're feeling...

a product that maybe can sell.


PELOSIE CREAM: Just rub it on and the urge goes away. No harmful after effects:target:

[TheTman]

The new list they are drawing up includes anything remotely scary looking, or firearms that hold more than 10 rounds, any long gun with a pistol grip or folding stock.
They are apparently going by how scary a gun looks. And now they have a new term to toss around, assualt magazines. And the AG can add items as he sees fit. Doesn't that just make your day.

[Bawanna]

Depressing just thinking about it.

People who don't have a clue writing the rule book for a game they know nothing about.

I truly wish I had a time machine so that I could turn back the clock to 10 minutes before the attack.

Give me time to be there for my parent / teacher conference.

Bang, window shatters, misguided soul enters building holding scary army looking rifle. Bawanna shoots misguided soul in face.

Whole bunch of kids and adults scared and screaming for about 10 minutes then children go back to writing their Christmas wish list. Janitor mops up and replaces broken window.

Bawanna shares cell with Zimmerman waiting for a broken hack saw blade in a cake. And awaits social etiquette lessons from Tyrone.

[jocko]

andin the meantime, we loyal members are gathering outside ur home to buy your arsenal from ur lovely wife for 10 cents on the dollar. Just sayin

[Bawanna]

andin the meantime, we loyal members are gathering outside ur home to buy your arsenal from ur lovely wife for 10 cents on the dollar. Just sayin

Which she may or may not contribute to my defense fund. Probably not.

Actually I only have pictures and memories left. It was an awful hard to talk about event when I lost it all. My life's work, all gone.

[jocko]

I will bring esmeralda along to, to see if she can use any of your grip making equipment. I just wanna help "Colonel"

Not sure a defense fun will even be started for u, as u should have known better. We will not be there to praise u "colonel" but there to buy ur stuff for 10 cents on the dollar. Maybe though u can run the forum still from inside the big house. I would think John and Justin would think that would be an OK thing to do. Ur grip making days thouse would be over. they don't allow the tools u use in the BIG HOUSE, so more than likely esmeralda will own them. Just sayin

The news tonight stated that the NRA willissue a statement this friday on what they feel is a solution to the problem. This should be interesting