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Barth
12-19-2012, 06:21 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/fear-being-committed-may-have-caused-connecticut-madman-to-snap/

NEWTOWN, Conn. – The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.
Adam Lanza, 20, targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school “more than she loved him,” said Joshua Flashman, 25, who grew up not far from where the shooting took place. Flashman, a U.S. Marine, is the son of a pastor at an area church where many of the victims' families worship.
“From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed," Flashman told FoxNews.com. "Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off.”
A senior law enforcement official involved in the investigation confirmed that Lanza's anger at his mother over plans for “his future mental health treatment” is being looked at as a possible motive for the deadly shooting.
"He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry."
- Joshua Flashman, Newtown resident familiar with Lanza family
Flashman was told Nancy Lanza had begun filing paperwork to get conservatorship over her troubled son, but that could not be confirmed because a court official told FoxNews.com such records are sealed. The move would have been necessary for her to gain the legal right to commit an adult to a hospital or psychiatric facility against his will. A competency hearing had not yet been held.
Adam Lanza attended the Sandy Hook School as a boy, according to Flashman, who said Nancy Lanza had volunteered there for several years. Two law enforcement sources said they believed Nancy Lanza had been volunteering with kindergartners at the school. Most of Lanza's victims were first graders sources believe Nancy Lanza may have worked with last year.
Flashman said Nancy Lanza was also good friends with the school’s principal and psychologist—both of whom were killed in the shooting rampage.
"Adam Lanza believed she cared more for the children than she did for him, and the reason he probably thought this [was the fact that] she was petitioning for conservatorship and wanted to have him committed," Flashman said. "I could understand how he might perceive that—that his mom loved him less than she loved the kids, loved the school. But she did love him. But he was a troubled kid and she probably just couldn’t take care of him by herself anymore."
The Washington Post reported that the distraught mother had considered moving with her son to Washington state, where she had found a school she thought could help him. Either way, according to Flashman, Nancy Lanza was at her wit's end.
A separate neighborhood source also told FoxNews.com that Nancy Lanza had come to the realization she could no longer handle her son alone. She was caring for him full-time, but told friends she needed help. She was planning to have him involuntarily hospitalized, according to the source, who did not know if she had taken formal steps.

Multiple sources told FoxNews.com Adam Lanza suffered from Asperger’s syndrome, a form of autism, and unspecified mental and emotional problems.
Adam Lanza has also been described by those who knew him as highly intelligent, and a spokesman for Western Connecticut State University told The Associated Press he took college classes there when he was 16, earning a 3.26 grade point average and excelling at a computer course.
Alan Diaz, 20, who was friends with Adam Lanza at Newtown High School, said the Lanza he knew was ill-at-ease socially, but not a monster.
"He was a wicked smart kid," Diaz told FoxNews.com by email. "When I first met him, he wouldn't even look at you when you tried to talk to him. Over the year I knew him, he became used to me and my other friends, he eventually could have full conversations with us.
"I've heard him laugh, he has even comforted me once in a hard time I had," Diaz said. “A big part of me wishes I never dropped contact with him after he left high school, felt like I could have done something."
Flashman said nobody will completely understand why Adam did what he did.
“No one can explain Adam Lanza besides God and Adam Lanza, and I don’t even think Adam Lanza could explain Adam Lanza, to be honest with you.”

Tinman507
12-19-2012, 06:36 AM
I've read reports that the killer (no longer verbalizing this animal's name) spent huge amounts of time in his mom's basement playing Call of Duty.
Walls covered with weapon and military posters. No windows.

<tongue-in-cheek>What we should perhaps be considering is a NICS Check for purchase of Call of Duty and other uber violent video games. Wanna hear people howl about that one?</tongue-in-cheek>

Lots of kids and not so kids spend massive amounts of time playing these games and are becoming desensitized to killing, blood, gore and violence.

Popeye
12-19-2012, 06:39 AM
This tragic story IMO is not about guns,it about mental illness. That's what should be addressed.

JohnR
12-19-2012, 07:04 AM
So much disinformation has been thrown out there. First they said the mom had no ties to the school, now we see that was a lie. Then they said if only he had access to mental health care, now we see that providing mental health care may have caused him to go postal. Can't wait to find out if it was the AR he used, or pistols. There's conflicting info on that.

muggsy
12-19-2012, 07:09 AM
Some people can handle video games and some can't. I can't see any reason for anyone to own violent video games. The congress should move to ban the manufacture, sale and possession of violent video games. Especially those games that come with high capacity magazines.

JohnR
12-19-2012, 07:17 AM
I've never had a video game that didn't get boring after a few times playing it. I have one shooting range simulator on my iPhone, and it has some very challenging levels, that's the only one I still sometimes play. But I've seen some on iTunes that look disgusting and I have no interest in.

Tinman507
12-19-2012, 07:20 AM
Some people can handle video games and some can't. I can't see any reason for anyone to own violent video games. The congress should move to ban the manufacture, sale and possession of violent video games. Especially those games that come with high capacity magazines.

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LorenzoB
12-19-2012, 08:34 AM
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Good one Tinman, but I almost didn't recognize it was you with the Avatar change. Keep it up Muggsy, I like your taste in sarcastic sense of humor. It is cooked just right with a hint of seriousness.

les strat
12-19-2012, 08:53 AM
Honestly, I don't believe a word reported. This incident has evolved by the minute, and many things have changed to suit the needs of the media and gun grabbers.

knkali
12-19-2012, 09:06 AM
doesnt mateer what is said the admin is going to do what they want...

melissa5
12-19-2012, 09:37 AM
I used to work with a girl who had Aspergers syndrome. She was crazy as a bed bug.

kb2wji
12-19-2012, 09:44 AM
If mom had plans of having him committed, why did she not leave her AR15 at a friends house. Or lock it up in a safe?? If he was THAT crazy, did she not think a rifle was a bad thing to have in the house?

AJBert
12-19-2012, 08:52 PM
If mom had plans of having him committed, why did she not leave her AR15 at a friends house. Or lock it up in a safe?? If he was THAT crazy, did she not think a rifle was a bad thing to have in the house?
One major flaw in this thinking, IMHO, is that she loved her son. She went all out for him in every way, according to "reports".

That being said, and with the reports of her being a "prepper", don't you think she trained her son on how to use her firearms AND gave him access to the firearms for when the SHTF?

This has been my thinking with the piss poor reporting thus far. I'm not sure the truth will ever be reported but with her knowledge and resources, I'm pretty sure most everything she had was secure with the exception of a few well place items. Could be he knew where those well placed items were and that was all he could get.

Not sure we'll ever find out with the current state of our media and administration, though.

yqtszhj
12-19-2012, 09:17 PM
If mom had plans of having him committed, why did she not leave her AR15 at a friends house. Or lock it up in a safe?? If he was THAT crazy, did she not think a rifle was a bad thing to have in the house?

You might be originally from NY but you have adopted that Tennessee thinking. I agree with your statement completely. That's been my thought from the beginning.

muggsy
12-20-2012, 07:14 AM
doesnt mateer what is said the admin is going to do what they want...

Over my dead body.

muggsy
12-20-2012, 07:18 AM
You might be originally from NY but you have adopted that Tennessee thinking. I agree with your statement completely. That's been my thought from the beginning.

None of us knows what either of them were thinking and they're not talking, because they are dead. Neither of them will ever make those mistakes again.

Chuck54
12-20-2012, 09:34 AM
kinda like Shaker Heights Ohio..........long time ago