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knkali
12-19-2012, 10:52 AM
I ask this of the forum to see how deep this subject is in light of the recent events that threaten ownership in the future. Please lets keep the name calling and partisan politics out of the discussion.

I will start:
Gun ownership is more that the obvious. It is a last resort way for the people to protect themselves from their government.

Gun ownership allows people their God given right to self protection

Gun ownership teaches youg people responsibility usually in a family setting.

By not allowing gun ownership, history can repeat itself, the ***** did it, the Turks did it, happened in Cambodia before genocides.( I guess this is related to the above statement)

Gun ownership is like the canary in the coal mine. It is the litmus test of how far will we allow our constitutional rights to be removed from us.

Gun ownership prevents crimes

Finally, in light of recent events, by preseving gun rights we are not allowing the less than a fraction of one percent( .000001% of the total population...the mentally ill who used guns in horrible crimes) dictate what the liberties are for 99.999999 % of the citizens here.

Can the forum add to this? I realize it is a thumbnail sketch but I wanted to get the ball rolling.

Thanks

muggsy
12-19-2012, 11:21 AM
Gun ownership means freedom will prevail.

knkali
12-19-2012, 11:32 AM
Gun ownership means freedom will prevail.

well said. That summed up all my ramble very nicely.

Bawanna
12-19-2012, 11:35 AM
I look even beyond the freedom, the self defense, those are certainly at the top of the list.

To me its just like any other hobby be it stamp collecting, or shooting pool.
It's affection for the gun itself. How it works, how to make it better, the history in many of the old pieces and future history of even the new pieces.

Really no different than a knife collection or swords etc.

I've always be infatuated with guns and I still am today, maybe even more so now than before.

So many facets of the hobby that allow a person to branch out and expand. Reloading, different shooting games, endless opportunity to spend what precious little hobby time we have.

I often times try to come up with a comparable item to give up for folks not into guns, be it video games, or knitting needles, race cars, whatever. Your passionate about your hobby, I'm passionate about mine.

I'll not give up a single one, not one! Ever. Not gonna happen.

knkali
12-19-2012, 12:18 PM
OK thanks Bawanna ..Recreation/hobby to add to the list.

JohnR
12-19-2012, 12:47 PM
It means a balance of power, between the tyrant and the citizen, on all levels.

chrish
12-19-2012, 01:24 PM
I'm with JohnR. It's the great equalizer. It's the 2A. Period.

Starbug
12-19-2012, 02:51 PM
Shooting is a skill challenge. Like darts, you don't just automatically pick up a dart and hit the center bullseye the very first time (ok, so maybe 99% of us don't). So learning how to use your gun and it's iron sights, and hit the center of the target every time, is a skill challenge. It's fun, like darts. But louder. Lol. Adding a scope is like cheating though, lol.... :D My rifles like to cheat... :p

It's also a means to put food on your table. I know one guy that doesn't buy meat at the store, he hunts his own. Bear, elk, deer, turkey, rabbit, etc. Hunts a year's worth and then packs it all away into freezers. Takes it out as needed for dinner. It also saves money on the grocery bill, from what he's said.

Like someone else mentioned above, it's also for protection. I'm less than 5' tall, my knees are not very functional anymore, and I have asthma. I can't run away from you, if you attack me. How else am I supposed to defend myself if I can't even get away?? That gun is my only hope of survival. Around here the cops don't show up for at least 24 hours, even if you have the bad guy held at gun point (ask my friend about his multiple break-in experiences). And then he was told by the cops when they finally did show up that their job isn't to stop a crime in progress, it's to clean up the mess afterwards. WTF. So in light of that info, if I can't rely on the cops to save me and I can't run away, then I have to rely on myself. So I have a gun. This also applies to predators in nature: you can't out-run a cougar.

Some guns are collectible and artistic. Just like a beautiful vase with intricate designs etched in or melted in during the glass blowing phase, some guns are engraved with just as highly detailed and beautiful designs. Some are also pieces of history, and should not be lost, just as any other piece of history.

Guns in the hands of citizens also protects the country in case another country decides to invade. If our military is armed, and so are the citizens, then you've just more than doubled the amount of people available to fight back the invading force. And it didn't cost the military or government a dime to add to our troops' numbers (how's that for financial smarts!). And therefor the citizens also didn't get taxed extra to support the additional available fighters for the military. Win-win situation for all.

knkali
12-19-2012, 03:07 PM
Shooting is a skill challenge. Like darts, you don't just automatically pick up a dart and hit the center bullseye the very first time (ok, so maybe 99% of us don't). So learning how to use your gun and it's iron sights, and hit the center of the target every time, is a skill challenge. It's fun, like darts. But louder. Lol. Adding a scope is like cheating though, lol.... :D My rifles like to cheat... :p

It's also a means to put food on your table. I know one guy that doesn't buy meat at the store, he hunts his own. Bear, elk, deer, turkey, rabbit, etc. Hunts a year's worth and then packs it all away into freezers. Takes it out as needed for dinner. It also saves money on the grocery bill, from what he's said.

Like someone else mentioned above, it's also for protection. I'm less than 5' tall, my knees are not very functional anymore, and I have asthma. I can't run away from you, if you attack me. How else am I supposed to defend myself if I can't even get away?? That gun is my only hope of survival. Around here the cops don't show up for at least 24 hours, even if you have the bad guy held at gun point (ask my friend about his multiple break-in experiences). And then he was told by the cops when they finally did show up that their job isn't to stop a crime in progress, it's to clean up the mess afterwards. WTF. So in light of that info, if I can't rely on the cops to save me and I can't run away, then I have to rely on myself. So I have a gun. This also applies to predators in nature: you can't out-run a cougar.

Some guns are collectible and artistic. Just like a beautiful vase with intricate designs etched in or melted in during the glass blowing phase, some guns are engraved with just as highly detailed and beautiful designs. Some are also pieces of history, and should not be lost, just as any other piece of history.

Guns in the hands of citizens also protects the country in case another country decides to invade. If our military is armed, and so are the citizens, then you've just more than doubled the amount of people available to fight back the invading force. And it didn't cost the military or government a dime to add to our troops' numbers (how's that for financial smarts!). And therefor the citizens also didn't get taxed extra to support the additional available fighters for the military. Win-win situation for all.

Thank you I will add hunting to the list

Tinman507
12-19-2012, 04:03 PM
I got back into shooting as a means of reconnecting with my son. We did tons of stuff together as he grew up, mostly related to scouting. As he grew older and went to college his interests kind of departed from the things we enjoyed doing together. He got interested in shooting and turned me onto it again.

2 years later and 6 guns later, I am hooked and we go shooting every chance we have when he's home. So, to put it into one single word:
Camaraderie

Popeye
12-19-2012, 04:12 PM
I'll keep it real short and not so sweet. It means,Freedom from taking any **** from anyone foreign or domestic.

jocko
12-19-2012, 05:20 PM
good point aluminum man. My son never grew up around firearms likeI did for over 50 years, but I bought him a G19 and he has my P380 and over Christmas holidays, he and I are going to his company's shooting range to practice. Yes I said his company's shooting range..

Tinman507
12-19-2012, 05:21 PM
very cool Jocko. Enjoy these times, they're fleeting at best.

JohnR
12-19-2012, 05:58 PM
good point aluminum man. My son never grew up around firearms likeI did for over 50 years, but I bought him a G19 and he has my P380 and over Christmas holidays, he and I are going to his company's shooting range to practice. Yes I said his company's shooting range..

Are they hiring? LOL

jocko
12-19-2012, 06:00 PM
Cummins dieselco.

JohnR
12-19-2012, 07:38 PM
Sounds like they offer awesome bennies.

JFootin
12-19-2012, 09:39 PM
It is to me identifying as a free American. It looks like those of us who value these freedoms have an ever increasing and sober duty to stand up for and defend our God given freedoms.

It is a deadly serious responsiblity to own guns, and much more so to carry a loaded gun. It challenges me to be adult, responsible, practiced and competent, ready to behave bravely and prudently if the s.h.t.f.

It is the great equalizer as I grow older and weaker and the world grows colder and more evil with no indication that things will get better or safer. There is evil in this world and there are criminals who are willing to do harm to others with no conscience. The right to arm and defend myself is reassuring because I understand that the police only get involved AFTER a crime has been committed.

It is a relationship of sorts. If you carry a gun you develop a relationship with your weapon, a level of trust that it will work when needed. All important time spent at the range, and maintaining your weapons help to maintain the relationship.

It is also, as Bawanna says, a hobby - a focus of interest that brings a lot of joy and satisfaction.

knkali
12-19-2012, 09:48 PM
"It is a deadly serious responsiblity to own guns, and much more so to carry a loaded gun. It challenges me to be adult, responsible, practiced and competent, ready to behave bravely and prudent when SHTF"

Hey Jfootin, may I use this line?

JFootin
12-19-2012, 10:26 PM
"It is a deadly serious responsiblity to own guns, and much more so to carry a loaded gun. It challenges me to be adult, responsible, practiced and competent, ready to behave bravely and prudently when TSHTF."

Hey Jfootin, may I use this line?

Sure. I corrected your spelling and syntax so you can quote it with confidence. :)

DKD
12-21-2012, 08:12 AM
The Second Ammendment is our Heritage & Birth Right. The fools out there have no idea of our Bill of Rights and the Constitution and just how important they are and what it all means.
The second ammendment is the ultimate gauranture of all our other rights. Without it the others are just hollow words with no teeth. This is why they are trying to disarm us...they fear us....ultimatley it is all about control & power which is suppose to be held by the people not the Fed. The founding fathers understood this fact all too well, thats why the 2nd is there.

Barth
12-21-2012, 08:36 AM
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JohnR
12-21-2012, 09:17 AM
Here's another answer - I carry a gun for most of the same reasons the police do. :)