PM40 with external safety?

[cmichael22]

Your thoughts? Do you like it better with or without external safety?

[zamboni]

No question, get one without the safety unless your state requires one. A decent holster and that long DA trigger pull are your safeties. The gun will not fire untill you conciously pull that trigger. A safety is just one more thing to have to think about if or when the poop hits the fan. IMHO of course.

[Longitude Zero]

From a mechanical aspect the ONLY weapon that needs an external safety is a cocked/locked Colt styled pistol. IMHO.

On the rest it is superflous crap.

[muggsy]

+1 What L.Z. said.

[jocko]

thats why the make the jPM9 with non external safety and one with the external safety. At lease one has a choice now. If a company plnas on selling guns in 50 states, they will indeed have an external safety on them. It is also a business decision.

I personally see nutting wrong with an external safety. at least u have a choice. I have yet to read an article where a guy was shot because he had a safety on his gun. We make to much of that IMO, but again it is my opinion.

Had my PM9 5+ years ago been availalble with our without a safety, I would have gotten the safety version. I have been around guns allmty life and I find that no real issues. All long guns have safety's--humm.

[Longitude Zero]

Had my PM9 5+ years ago been availalble with our without a safety, I would have gotten the safety version. I have been around guns allmty life and I find that no real issues. All long guns have safety's--humm.


For the initiated, mixing the question of a safety on a internal striker fired handgun vs a rifle is a NON-issue. In this case you mentioned it adds mechanical complexity. Thus it violates Occams Razor.

[TheTman]

I don't mind having a safety, that can be engaged when holstering your pistol, then disengaged after it's holstered, mostly for when carrying at 4:00-5:00 where you can't see what you are doing very well.

[jocko]

From a mechanical aspect the ONLY weapon that needs an external safety is a cocked/locked Colt styled pistol. IMHO.

On the rest it is superflous crap.

u feel the Kimber solo needs no safety. It is striker fired but certainly has a 1911 trigger pull. Just sayin.