no ammo at walmart

[Harrylee]

just had to run down to walmart to get something while I was there thought I would pick up some 22s for plinking the entire ammo box was empty I just wonder where this whole thing is going to end up

[7shot]

I think it's going to be months away before things slow down...everyone is scared shitless.

[JERRY]

they had plenty of 12ga. #7 shot, .270Win, .410 #6 shot, some .40cal and .38spl, a few boxes of 30-06 and a lot of .22short and CB....but no .22lr or .45acp, or 9mm, or .223, or 7.62x39...

if youre only interest in guns is trap shooting, deer, and squirrels youre in luck.

[houdini]

at mine place I bought some yesterday, went today they did not stock what I bought.

[Barth]

Mine has some high end 40/45, shotgun and rifle rounds.
Most everything is gone and the shelves are empty.
Forget anything in .223/5.56.
Even my online sources are mostly sold out of any .223/5.56 ammo.
I still have a few top secret sources I'm not willing to divulge at this time.
Even to friends.

So don't ask...

[GROTMAN]

I went to Walmart early this morning and was lucky to get a couple 50 round boxes of Remington 115 grain and 1 box of Federal. I found a couple of boxes of Remington steel cased ammo on the shelf but didn't get it because did not know anything about steel cased ammo. Have since Googled it and found varying opinions about it. Surprise Surprise.
Some say the only thing wrong with it is you can't reload it which I don't do anyway but others say it runs dirty and can be hard on your extractor. I have learned to trust you guys and your opinions. I believe it was only about 50 bucks for a box of 250, which sounds great if the ammo is ok. So what say you experts?
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/images/ssi/17782.jpg

[Tinman507]

I've used it when there wasn't anything else. It's filthy dirty but shoots ok.

[O'Dell]

Never used it - never will!!

[GROTMAN]

Thanks Tinman.. O'Dell why not?

[Bawanna]

I like the gun to be harder than the cartridge. Steel on steel doesn't appeal to me.

Russian stuff runs on it all the time and I'd probably use it in those but not anything I really like.

That being said I'd probably buy it anyhow if they aren't gouging on price and just have it on hand. Beats the heck out of throwing rocks.

Crap, I just missed a big Rat with my S&W Model 41, should have been an easy shot at 25 yards or so but I haven't pulled a trigger in 4 months so I must be a little rusty?

[Barth]

I have quality guns and only use quality ammo.
WWB is as low grade as I'm willing to shoot.
I never use anything but brass.
My HK manuals are very specific about using only brass cased ammo.

I feed my guns, and myself, well.

[GROTMAN]

Thanks everyone. The consensus seems to be don't get it unless I have to. Fortunately I'm not in a place where I need to get it. Do have a little stock built up.
Bawanna also feeling a little rusty. I don't want to use up what I do have until I can replace it. My range membership is up for renewal this month but I think I'm going to wait until ammo is more plentiful again before I renew it. Can't even find 22 ammo to go plink with. Anyway bet that rat is home now bragging about how he escaped the Great Bawanna! :D

[jocko]

I have quality guns and only use quality ammo.
WWB is as low grade as I'm willing to shoot.
I never use anything but brass.
My HK manuals are very specific about using only brass cased ammo.

I feed my guns, and myself, well.

of people call WWB low grade,I often wnder if itis becuase walmart sellsit for aroun d $20 a box where as Gander Mty. sells the same stuff for $35 a box. Makes no sense to me. It is brass casing, fmj bullet,certainly not rock salt for a propellant. It willgo bang every time as much as any outter brand will. What makes it dirtier than utters??? I don't buy some of the comments. Just me but,if a gun won't shoot alittle dirty, it ain't much of a gun. Most good shooters keep their weapons clean to,. I am not defending WWB but I am saying IMO it is just not low grade ammo. It ain't +P but again neither is the price. Just sayin.

[addictedhealer]

This whole thing sucks.

Gander Mountain has 350 rounds of 115grain 9mm Blazer Brass for $99.99.

[jocko]

but you also get a free finger swab when u buy those 350 rounds at that price. They have a proctologists on duty full time...

[Barth]

I've got to say,
I'm thinking a lot more about stocking up on ammo than shooting it.
I've got to break in, and dial in, my new AK.
But after that, I want lots of high end stuff on tap.
Looks like I'll be doing a lot less shooting this year...

[RRP]

Guns and ammo are made for shootin'.

[Barth]

Guns and ammo are made for shootin'.

If online sales are banned?
Much of the high end ammo I like will be unavailable to me.
Not that standard stuff is all that bad.
But I get 50 round boxes at 20 round prices.
And I'm spoiled running best of the best stuff.

Hopefully It will just be black gun and mag ban.
With added background check, transfer and sales rules.

But taxing ammo, and gun show / online ammo, is definitely on the table.

[RRP]

The House is still under Republican control.

[Barth]

The House is still under Republican control.

Executive Orders don't go before the House.

[RRP]

Executive Orders don't go before the House.

The Democratic party will never allow it to happen. They know it would be political suicide. Getting re-elected is what drives politicians.

[Barth]

The Democratic party will never allow it to happen. They know it would be political suicide. Getting re-elected is what drives politicians.

Obummer can't get re-elected.
He's got nothing to lose.

He's making History don't you know?

[RRP]

Obummer can't get re-elected.
He's got nothing to lose.

The party does.

[Barth]

The party does.

I really hope you're right.
I'm just not sure anyone has any control at all over this mad man.

[RRP]

I really hope you're right.
I'm just not sure anyone has any control at all over this mad man.

There's going to be a lot of noise-making on both sides. In the end, very little will get accomplished.

Despite the noise, the Democrats don't really want to be responsible for passing an AWB, because they know it will hurt their electability. But, they won't pass-up the opportunity to blame the Republicans for blocking their efforts to increase gun control. In return, the Republicans will take credit for preserving the constitutional right.

It's a game. Neither party really cares about what's best for the country. The budget drama of the past year exemplifies that. They care about themselves, their party, and about getting re-elected.

[kahrseye]

I've been having trouble finding .223 to purchase. Everywhere I went they were sold out. Then over the weekend a friend came to see me and brought me 7 boxes of ammo....for FREE! I was thrilled. You see he works for the DEA and gets as it by the bushel...also for free. Also they use nothing but .45 ACP for their pistols and I don't even want to tell you how much of that he told me he has. I just got lucky. :bump2:

[RRP]

Everyone needs a friend like that.

[Double3]

I've been having trouble finding .223 to purchase. Everywhere I went they were sold out. Then over the weekend a friend came to see me and brought me 7 boxes of ammo....for FREE! I was thrilled. You see he works for the DEA and gets as it by the bushel...also for free. Also they use nothing but .45 ACP for their pistols and I don't even want to tell you how much of that he told me he has. I just got lucky. :bump2:
I'd like to meet your friend.

I could use a new friend. :cool:

[Barth]

I've been having trouble finding .223 to purchase. Everywhere I went they were sold out. Then over the weekend a friend came to see me and brought me 7 boxes of ammo....for FREE! I was thrilled. You see he works for the DEA and gets as it by the bushel...also for free. Also they use nothing but .45 ACP for their pistols and I don't even want to tell you how much of that he told me he has. I just got lucky. :bump2:

I actually had a call from an online ammo distributor Monday.
He said he was the owner and had never seen anything like this.
Three of four boxes of high end .223 I had ordered he didn't have.
Was very apologetic, said he could refund my money.
Or offered to switch three of the boxes with some like high end stuff that just came in.
And hadn't even been checked into stock yet.

Naturally I accepted the swap.
I've had to go to expensive, and little known, distributors to get the good stuff now.

I feel like I'm making drug deals at this point - LOL!
I've never seen anything like this either...

[JustinN]

I KIND of understand 5.56 ammo being sold out, and maybe even semi-auto handguns, but why .22LR? What's special about it? My local walmart is still sold out of everything but hunting cartridges, 357 mag, and 44 mag. They had JUST got in a few boxes of PDX .45 and .40, but nothing in 9, 380, or 223...and the 22lr was barren.

[Barth]

I KIND of understand 5.56 ammo being sold out, and maybe even semi-auto handguns, but why .22LR? What's special about it? My local walmart is still sold out of everything but hunting cartridges, 357 mag, and 44 mag. They had JUST got in a few boxes of PDX .45 and .40, but nothing in 9, 380, or 223...and the 22lr was barren.

I think it's just part of the crazy.
Maybe worried about some extreme ammo tax on all ammo.
Personally I'm focusing on 5.56/.223.

[JustinN]

Oh man, $.50 a ROUND or something...so a normal brick of cheap .22lr suddenly goes up about $280......

[jocko]

we seen this in the ammo thing a few years back when obummer got in office. Took quite awhile for my local wal mart to get ammo back on the shelves. I forsee a year downt he road this time for any ammo to start showing up and lasting longert than a day. I will not buy at Gander Mt. Noramally they put people in jail for robery. How these people get away with it is beyond me. Its winterhere, so shootin much is not gonna happen with me, I do have an inside at our wal mart as my wofe works there and keeps a constant eye on the sprting goods section plus the magager of the sproting goods is one of my old time class mates and friends. She said I willget first shot at 500 rounds of wwb or federal fmj when it hits the storeroom. I don't wantto drain them , so I said 500 wou7ld be fine..

I am hard pressed to understand the 22 thing though, other than people by what ever they feel they have to have... At least our walmart and most all that I have been in , never jacked the prices of their ammo to fokk the public. What small gun shops we have around this area certainly jacked the hell out of their ammo. the Indy 1500 gun show in coming in a week or so and It willbe a mad house and ammo will be sky high for they know they can get it, but I alsop woold be very surprised if there is alot of ammo for sale for most are legit gun dealers and they are probablyall sold out. Have not decided if I want to even go or not, as I would be a gacker and not a buyer anyways.

[Pyranha]

Every local gun store near me is out of ammo. It's a shame, I was hoping to pick up some cheap stuff to break my PM9 in with.

[Scoundrel]

I still have a few top secret sources I'm not willing to divulge at this time.
Even to friends.

So don't ask...

The best way to keep a secret is to not tell anyone about it.

[Barth]

The best way to keep a secret is to not tell anyone about it.

Knowing of it, doesn't divulge it.
I'm sure even those sources are sold out by now.
I've already completely drained my two online Ak mag sources.
CTD $150 Glock mags are sold out.

And the Crazy Continues...

have a nice day

[Scoundrel]

It is crazy.

I wonder how many of the people who are bashing "price gougers" are paying exorbitant prices anyway, retail or private sales, for AR-15s, magazines, and ammo.

[outerlimit]

With the last ammo rush I would think most of your guy's closets/basements would look like entire ammo dumps.

[getsome]

I ain't worried one bit about any of this ammo shortage/gun control crap....Ya'll remember late last year there were several threads discussing if the Great One was elected again for his final solution term that gun control, assult rifle bans, outrignt confiscation and how the Gov might outlaw on line sales and tax ammo over the moon all would be high on his agenda???...Well old CrabbyAzz said we got checks and balances in place to prevent that kind of thing from ever ever happening and there is absolutely nothing to worry about and King DemoRat Obummer would never use the power of his office to try to ban any second amemdment rights!!!...I feel so much better now knowing that!!!...:rolleyes:

[wyntrout]

It was a b!tch finding online places with ammo last month. I just wanted to get some more Gold Dots Short Barrel Version and many places had prices but nothing in stock. I got my .45's but I'm still waiting on my 9mm and .40S&W. I'm glad that I didn't wait until I got LOW! Ammo to Go took my money immediately and then said it would be 3 weeks at least before possible shipment... about a month from the order! I wonder how much money they raised that way!?

I may just shoot the range's ammo on my next visit. I want to keep my "reserves" and not worry about resupply.

I ALWAYS look at the shelves in Walmart, but just for information on prices and availability. They haven't had anything I would buy, and the main calibers... I only look for 9mm, .40 S&W, & .45 ACP, have been absent, except for the odd box of Tula.

I'm kinda wishing I had bought some of the "canned" stuff for long-term storage or trade... even stuff I can't shoot... for trade items. Paper dollars may become even more worthless for necessities!

Wynn:)

[Barth]

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/img/eb98/JJ/1894l.jpghttp://radioviceonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/obama-bucks.jpg

[getsome]

That Buck would buy you one item off the dollar menu at McDonalds if you add tax!

[RRP]

~
I'm kinda wishing I had bought some of the "canned" stuff for long-term storage or trade... even stuff I can't shoot... for trade items. Paper dollars may become even more worthless for necessities!


I'm guessing that's the reason .22LR is disappearing from shelves. I can't imagine anyone believing .22LRwill be banned.

[AIRret]

Hey folks, buy laser trainers. At least you can have fun with your dry fire training.
We got our laser trainers about a month ago and it's a nice cheap option.
Folks, we have to do what we can to keep our skills up.

[RRP]

Hey folks, buy laser trainers. At least you can have fun with your dry fire training.
We got our laser trainers about a month ago and it's a nice cheap option.
Folks, we have to do what we can to keep our skills up.

Please tell us more, either here, or in a dedicated thread. I think others will be interested in learning about the type of trainer you are using and your recommendations based on your experience of the last month.

[getsome]

Google Laserlyte

[RRP]

Google Laserlyte

Do you use LaserLyte? If so, which target do you use?

[getsome]

I wanted one of the .40 cal laser rounds that flashes a dot on the target when you dry fire but it seemed kind of pricy at the time but now that ammo may go over the moon it might be the perfect home dry fire training device...

They get good results from the magazine articles I have read...I may go ahead and order one for my M&P .40...Looks like fun and a good practice tool....

[RRP]

Thanks for your reply. I'd still like to hear from someone who uses this product, to give us first-hand information. I'm interested in learning what the battery life is on the cartridge laser, what it costs to replace the battery, and what target and how many are recommended.

[Planedude]

I used this one at a buddies house:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/116718/laserlyte-laser-trainer-target-system?cm_vc=subv1159951

In a Taurus PT 24/7 9mm holding this:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/510737/laserlyte-cartridge-laser-trainer-fits-all-9mm?cm_vc=OBv1116718

It was fun, but hated the gun (ergos sucked for me). It was cool to be able to pull from the holster (some Fobus thing) and take the "shot" safely. We used a laser pointer pen to do the display and reset bit and that worked good. Only downside, forget double taps...

they have a new system:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/159951/laserlyte-lts-reaction-tyme-target-system
That sounds cool, anyone here tried it yet?

No Idea on Battery life, my buddy has not had his that long. The target was hung on a bedroom wall, on a nail that (normally) holds a family photo (the wives were out shopping) during our shooting session. We shot from different doorways down the hall and in different lighting conditions. Normally (wife at home) the target hangs on a nail in the garage...
May have to get one myself soon, but I need a bunch of those $80 buck "bullets" (every dang caliber :rolleyes:) to shoot with my fleet.

[RRP]

Thanks, Planedude.

[GROTMAN]

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/img/eb98/JJ/1894l.jpghttp://radioviceonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/obama-bucks.jpg


http://blog.nj.com/business_impact/2009/03/large_bz16bill.jpg

[jocko]

its sad grotman and that pr!ck just flew back to Hawaii at acost to us of over 3 million to finish his vacation. I always thought a vacation was a reward for doing a nice job the past year etc

and then I see where Chris Christie ostersized the congress for not passing a 60 \billion sandy AGAIN bail out. I feel sorry for those people but u build on a coast line and what the fokk do u expect and then expect the rest of the cuntry to bail u out because u were stupid. And when u see fokking pork in that 60 billion such as a new roof for the smithsonian in D.C. , to me it makes one wonder what other pork is in there.I used to like that fat a$$ slob but he and cuomo are both alike, , I WANNA, I WANNA I WANNA , U OWE US, U OWE US... swcrew um both.

[Planedude]

Thanks, Planedude.


Ummmmm... One update, my freind tells me that the target will do a double tap as the Taurus does something called "double strike" so that combo will, in fact, double tap...
The fact that I did not try it was my own dang fault.

Oh and he said that he added the picture frame hardware to the backplate after he bought it to hang it on a wall. Sorry for any mis-info...:o

[Double3]

its sad grotman and that pr!ck just flew back to Hawaii at acost to us of over 3 million to finish his vacation. I always thought a vacation was a reward for doing a nice job the past year etc

and then I see where Chris Christie ostersized the congress for not passing a 60 \billion sandy AGAIN bail out. I feel sorry for those people but u build on a coast line and what the fokk do u expect and then expect the rest of the cuntry to bail u out because u were stupid. And when u see fokking pork in that 60 billion such as a new roof for the smithsonian in D.C. , to me it makes one wonder what other pork is in there.I used to like that fat a$$ slob but he and cuomo are both alike, , I WANNA, I WANNA I WANNA , U OWE US, U OWE US... swcrew um both.
I didn't look into it but I heard a bunch of that 60 billion was going all over the place and not for relief.

[Barth]

Tax Refund Currency:
http://i7.minus.com/jWsglddphB4sV.jpg

401K Conversion Currency:
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/54500/Chinese-Money-Merged-with-US-Dollar---54996.jpg

[jeepster09]

I like the gun to be harder than the cartridge. Steel on steel doesn't appeal to me.

Russian stuff runs on it all the time and I'd probably use it in those but not anything I really like.

That being said I'd probably buy it anyhow if they aren't gouging on price and just have it on hand. Beats the heck out of throwing rocks.

Crap, I just missed a big Rat with my S&W Model 41, should have been an easy shot at 25 yards or so but I haven't pulled a trigger in 4 months so I must be a little rusty?


:confused: Didn't know rats rusted......:eek:

[Tinman507]

the stainless ones don't

http://raincoaster.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/stainless-steel-rat.jpg?w=286&h=300

[MW surveyor]

Just for giggles, went by my local Walmart to check out the ammo supply.

Two boxes of CB shorts, one box of Thunderbolts, two boxes of 17 HMR and five boxes of 22 shot.

Two boxes of 9 mm. No other handgun ammo.

One box of 410. Couple of boxes of dove loads.

Some rifle ammo but not sure of what it was.

Sure am glad that I was picking up different mfg of 22 lr when I bought the 10/22 to see what it liked!

[getsome]

When even 22lr is gone off the shelves it means people are really scared...It makes me mad and very sad to think that American Citizens have to be so afraid of their Government....Wait a minute, aren't WE the Government?????

[MW surveyor]

So this afternoon I go by the local Academy. The only 22 lr they had were about 12 boxes of the 375 round mini mags at $23.99/box. Bought 1 box.

They did have some 17 HMR, 22 mag, 9 mm SD ammo, 380 SD, 38 spl, 357, 40 and 45 ACP.

They did have some rifle ammo but no 223 or 5.56

[Scoundrel]

Discount Gun Sales in Everett is completely out of .223 of course.
They have a few cases of 9mm, I didn't ask for the price.
They're rationing it. 100 rounds per customer per day.

[wayne100]

went by local walmart in Hickory,nc all they had was some 25 06 and 300 magnum and some 410 pistol rounds. Everything else was gone.

[Scoundrel]

Went to a WalMart in Everett, WA today. No 9mm, no .22lr.
Other stuff was also absent but I was only looking at those two.
The shelves were pretty bare.

Interestingly, about a block away a LGS/Range (Everett Branch of West Coast Armory, just opened) had many cases of pistol ammo available, and they were selling by the box too.

The prices weren't unreasonable. For Federal 9mm 115gr FMJ range ammo, they wanted $270/case (1000 rds) or $13.99/box. Basically, the same prices you'd pay at the range before the freakout.
I'm used to paying $0.19/round when buying bulk online, but in this crazy market, I thought $0.27/round was not outrageous, so I bought two cases.

I was sitting pretty good with 9mm before, but now I'm all stocked up to weather this market.

[Pukindog12]

The 3 Walmarts close to me for the last two months have been running empty of 22LR. My wife and I went to one this afternoon and I figured they would be out again. I didn't look awfully hard because where they usually have the CCI 22LR was bare. Was about to ask for the last box of .357 and my wife points something out. There sat 11 boxes of CCI Stingers! :eek: I told the guy I wanted them all.

Maybe I should go play the lottery. :confused:

[pinetopfirefighter]

Last Sunday the closest Walmart still HAD a few boxes of 7.62x39 and 1 last box of .223. Pistol ammo was hit and miss. They have not had a shipment of ammo in a week now.

[JustinN]

Local Bass Pro (Springfield MO, so the HQ) had quite a but of ammo yesterday. It wasn't lasting long but they had bulk packs of almost everything but 223 and 9mm. I was able to get some cheap 38 and some PDX1 357. They had tons of 40 and 45, but it was getting carried off pretty quickly.

[outerlimit]

You know what's sad is, I actually haven't really shot any .22lr since the last ammo crisis except for the one time last winter I took my mom out shooting. I have a mountain of .22lr in my closet, I would have thought most of you would have the same by now lol.

[Bawanna]

We went to Cabelas yesterday because a friends father works there and said they have bulk 22 they just got in. It was all gone of course when we got there. They had lots of 17HMR, a lot of 7.62x39 Herters, not sure thats any good or not. Had two shelf sections usually brimming with 22 and most of the bulk deals on display in the aisles. None to be found.
Had several boxes of 22 short but I have quite a bit of that.

I usually shoot at least one of my 22's every trip so the meager stock I have won't last long. I'll have to conserve until I score some more.

[RRP]

I just returned from Walmart. This evening, they had one case of Federal 9mm FMJ, and 2 cases of PPU 9mm. Stock is still trickling in.

[Craig1056]

I went to Walmart early this morning and was lucky to get a couple 50 round boxes of Remington 115 grain and 1 box of Federal. I found a couple of boxes of Remington steel cased ammo on the shelf but didn't get it because did not know anything about steel cased ammo. Have since Googled it and found varying opinions about it. Surprise Surprise.
Some say the only thing wrong with it is you can't reload it which I don't do anyway but others say it runs dirty and can be hard on your extractor. I have learned to trust you guys and your opinions. I believe it was only about 50 bucks for a box of 250, which sounds great if the ammo is ok. So what say you experts?
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/images/ssi/17782.jpg

I'm confused! I have a couple of the exact same UMC boxes and the cases look like brass to me?

[JustinN]

My experience with UMC has always been brass cased. It is decent ammo. Weak/slow/dirty but for range fodder works fine. I've had some with bullets pushed too far or primers missing/wrong, etc. But overall I'm talking about 10 rounds out of 1000.....

[Popeye]

All this ammo business with Walmart is getting confusing to say the least. A friend of mine just picked up 6 Value packs of 22's that were not in the store the other day. He talked to the manager about future ammo sales and he says he should have a new shipment in in a couple of days. I gotta tell ya,This leaves me more confused than a breast fed baby in a ***** bar. :001_huh:

[IP32sailor]

Stopped by my local Walmart this am. Found them remarkably well stocked, shelves were full. ( they were bare last week). Had Federal and Remington 9mm FMJ. Saw .45, .40, 380. Lots of various rifle rounds, though no .223 or .22LR. Hope this is a sign that things are calming down.

[RRP]

I was told by the department manager, that Walmart is discontinuing Remington UMC 250 round Mega Packs. They are clearing the warehouses of the stuff. Too bad, because it's a decent value. Buy it if you see it, cuz it will be gone soon.

[jocko]

I had an attorney friend call me today and this is his story. I had given him a name of a ammo seller that came off of this fourm about a week ago showing Sellir and Belliott 9mm for slae at a good price. He called them and they told him they just soldout but wouldt ake his name and eamil him when they get more. today. He checked his email and they had sent him a message tellinghim they just got in 10K rounds of 9mm s & b. He immidiately called them and they said yes we stillhave osme and he said I will buy 2K of them and while he was giving them his credit card info and mailing address etc, a memo popped up on his webbl site telling him they just sold out and have no inventory.

this stuff comes in and goes out faster than lighning.

[Scoundrel]

I had an attorney friend call me today and this is his story. I had given him a name of a ammo seller that came off of this fourm about a week ago showing Sellir and Belliott 9mm for slae at a good price. He called them and they told him they just soldout but wouldt ake his name and eamil him when they get more. today. He checked his email and they had sent him a message tellinghim they just got in 10K rounds of 9mm s & b. He immidiately called them and they said yes we stillhave osme and he said I will buy 2K of them and while he was giving them his credit card info and mailing address etc, a memo popped up on his webbl site telling him they just sold out and have no inventory.

this stuff comes in and goes out faster than lighning.

The website is probably not updated quickly enough to keep up. He should have placed the order over the telephone.

[Bongo Boy]

What Walmart does or does not do doesn't concern me much. It's interests have to do with Walmart...period. It's purpose is to make as few people as rich as possible, like any US corporation. Any other motive for any action it takes is pure fantasy.

But as for any retailer having 10,000 rds in to sell and the estimated timeline for how long that would last...I would expect that ANYONE right now who gets 10,000 rds from a supplier will not be able to fulfill ANY new orders with that small an amount of ammo, and I would doubt they would be able to fulfill even a small percentage of backlog--orders they accepted when their web sites indicated they had ammo available.

I would expect 10,000 rds to fulfill 10 orders, on average, and to be gone basically as it arrived. Sorry to those who weren't ordering ammo in October and November, or for those who wanted anything but 20 rd boxes of ridiculously expensive 'exotic' or 'designer' ammo. Reloading components were gone weeks ago.

I'd sooner fight with a kitchen knife and harsh language than waste my time walking through a Walmart looking for ammo. It can't disappear from the American landscape fast enough to suit me, and good riddance.

[tv_racin_fan]

Wal Mart?

You think the other stores are different?

Tell me the name of the store that is working with its suppliers to increase the amount of US made goods in their store to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars worth of US made goods in the next couple of years.

That store would happen to be WAL MART.

Way back in the 70's when I mentioned I was going to Wal Mart and was told that K Mart was cheaper I mentioned that Wal Mart sold better quality US made goods and one day they would regret their K Mart shopping.

[tv_racin_fan]

When the US govt under President Bush sent out those tax rebate checks I invested in US made goods.

Couple of US made firearms and some US made ammo.

[GROTMAN]

I'm confused! I have a couple of the exact same UMC boxes and the cases look like brass to me?

My bad.. I didn't know anything about the umc yellow box so when I got home I googled it.. ran across this comment from another forum and then assumed it was steel. :o

Remington UMC Yellow Box
"Just saw some I thought was a decent price for 45ACP (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=267&type=2&ext=170968829170&item=170968829170). Store clerk (who knows me as a customer and is a shooter) said, "You know these are not brass? Remington calls them metallic. They are not reloadable".

I wish I had known then what I know now. Haven't seen it again since. :(
Apologies if I messed any one up.:blushing:

[RRP]

My bad.. I didn't know anything about the umc yellow box so when I got home I googled it.. ran across this comment from another forum and then assumed it was steel. :o

Remington UMC Yellow Box
"Just saw some I thought was a decent price for 45ACP (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=267&type=2&ext=170968829170&item=170968829170). Store clerk (who knows me as a customer and is a shooter) said, "You know these are not brass? Remington calls them metallic. They are not reloadable".

I wish I had known then what I know now. Haven't seen it again since. :(
Apologies if I messed any one up.:blushing:

Grotman,

The confusion is understandable. The box is labeled with the following: "Metal Case". Note that it does not say steel casing, but to some people, metal means steel.

[tv_racin_fan]

UUM be careful I think some are brass and some aren't BUT I aint dead sure.

The steel cases should in all honesty be no worry. Someone mentioned that they want their cases to be softer than their firearms. IF your firearm was made of the mild steel the cases are made of it would not work for very long. Think of rebar that one can bend...

Generally the issue with steel cased ammo is the coating they put on them to prevent rust and that they do not expand to seal the chamber as well as brass and thus the chambers gets dirty and then the cases can stick and when that happens the extractor doesn't extract the case.

Yet all of this is just stuff I understand from reading and I have no amount of real experience to amount to anything.

[Scoundrel]

I've had discussions with friend and have done some internet reading on the subject, and what I understand about steel cased stuff is:

1. Once upon a time the coating they used for rust prevention was a kind of shellac which, if you didn't scrub your gun between each shooting session, would eventually gum it up. Supposedly newer coatings are not as bad about that.

2. The thing about the casings not expanding and much and getting the gun dirtier from blowback.

3. Shooting ranges recycle their brass, and they're lazy about using magnets to pick the steel cases out, so they make rules about not using steel cased ammo in their ranges. They often justify this with a variety of misinformation. Not sure how aluminum stuff factors into this.

[jocko]

Most all steel cased ammo is foreign, probably areason for that to. I shy away from it . When wal mart has wwb i sotck I can't find any ammo lower in price that works as nice and is american made

[Scoundrel]

When I was stocking up on ammo for SHTF situations, I bought mostly brass. But I also picked up some steel-cased stuff because it was cheaper, and because I wouldn't be tempted to shoot it, so I'd be guaranteed to have at least SOME always on hand.

I figure if a situation arises that requires me to dip into the steel-cased stuff, then all negative aspects of it will vanish and I will be damn glad to have it.

[Ae35]

Stopped at wally world today to pick up 200lb. of dog food, walked by the gun racks, few shotgun shells, not much else, spied 5 boxes of 380, 100rd boxes. I mentioned to Ed, as guy who works there, that I must have missed the truck, no 9mm ammo. He said, " hey wait", and pulled 6 boxes of PPU off the back of the shelf. $14.97 a box of 50, made in Sebria, hey, maybe it will shoot.:)

[Craig1056]

Grotman,

The confusion is understandable. The box is labeled with the following: "Metal Case". Note that it does not say steel casing, but to some people, metal means steel.

Is confusing. Went home last night and compared a round from the yellow 250 count box and the 50 count green/white box. At least to naked eye they appear exactly the same.

Thanks,

Craig ...

[skiflydive]

My local Walmart's been out of 9mm range stuff for over a month. Today I stopped in and they had 4 hundred rd and 25 fifty rd boxes of Federal 115 gr. They also had a sign saying there's a 3 box limit. I quick did the math and figured 3 boxes of 100 is better than 3 boxes of 50 and snatched them right up.

[mr surveyor]

My local Walmart's been out of 9mm range stuff for over a month. Today I stopped in and they had 4 hundred rd and 25 fifty rd boxes of Federal 115 gr. They also had a sign saying there's a 3 box limit. I quick did the math and figured 3 boxes of 100 is better than 3 boxes of 50 and snatched them right up.



you made me have to get out my calculator

[cloud]

my walmart today had 4 boxes of the 100 round federal 45s and a couple boxes of the 50 round federal 9mm. They also had a 3 box limit . Said to many dealers coming in and buying their complete stock. The 45s did go from 29.99 to 32.17 still a good price.

[RRP]

I stop by Walmart almost daily, as it is on my way home. That strategy has paid off nicely in the last few weeks. I've been able to score quite a bit of .38, .357, 9mm, .40 and .45.

Today, I got skunked. But the good news is my store still has not posted a purchase limit. So, next time they have stock, I hope to buy whatever I need.

[Slotback]

MY WM still has empty shelves....

[Bawanna]

My son has an insider at ours who hopes to score us some 22 next time they get some in. They had 525 round packs last weekend for I think he said 14 bucks or so. We went but of course it was all gone.

No limits in place that I'm aware of. I told him to set aside 4 or 5 of those pacs for us, I think my kid has the money.

I usually have a lot of 22 but not so much right now. Use to have people bring in ammo, usually 22 for disposal. Safest way to dispose is down the barrel of my 22's.

Had one older lady come in a couple years ago, said she had 4 boxes of ammo to dispose of, thought it was 22. Told her to bring it in, she wanted help. I thought 4 boxes ain't that big. She had 4 bricks of 500. Unopened, not damp, like off the shelf at Wally World. A good day for ammo disposal.

[MikeyKahr]

MY WM still has empty shelves....

Mine too. Total of 7 boxes where there once was about 500. 1 20 gauge 00, 2 7mm, 1 243, 1 12 gauge slug, 2 5.56. That's it. The LGS was stocked with every caliber, including 223 and 5.56 which surprised me. Not a lot, but enough to get some anyway. Prices were ridiculous, but it is a seller's market right now.

[IP32sailor]

Things change fast. 2 days ago I posted how my Walmart was stocked up. Today no pistol calibers in stock and now a 3 box limit per cust, per day. They did happen to have 6 20rd boxes of AE.223; Now they have 3.

[RRP]

Well, it happened. My store posted a purchase limit of 3 boxes. And as luck would have it, they had a case of AE .223!

My wife and I each bought 3 boxes; separate transactions. I came home with 6 boxes, and left the rest of the case there for someone else.

I hate sharing.

[jocko]

my local wmt, told me the same thing today, 3 box limit per day per person.they zero ammo in the store, the shelves were totally empty even shot shells were gone. the gal toldme that the new policy is now like this: if ammo comes in on a truck druing the day it allg oes back in the bin in the back romm and is not put on the shelves until 7 am. the next morning when they open. she said u be here at 7 am and what we have willbe on the shelves for sale, 3 box liit. she couldnot tellme if they were gettingin any 9mm at all as ehs asys until we open up the crates, we don't know. The 3 box limit sounds to me like it willbe wmt policy nation wide, she claims small dealers were coming in and buying everyting tey had every day. She says wmt will not jack up their prices either, like damn near every dealer around this area is doing. I won't pay it, period. If i have ta shoot less for awhile until the pipe line fills up that is fine but I am not gonna get ripped by greedy dealers. My buddy works at a sporting clays range and he said their business has come to a halt as shot sheels are just about as scarce and prices have damn near doubled so people just quit for awhile...

[JFootin]

Sounds like they are doing all they can. The 3 box limit is a good way to put smiles on a few more faces. :)

[wyntrout]

They didn't have anything I wanted a few days ago, but today I got my limit of 3 boxes of Federal Champion 100-round 230-gr FMJ .45 acp for $32 something. They stilll had at least 2 or three boxes and some 9mm FedChamp 115gr as well for $13.97 a box of 50. That was too high for me... still shooting that same stuff I got for under $10 3 years ago when the limit was 6 boxes.

You have to really look at the shelves... everything isn't out to the front.

Wynn:)