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Barth
01-03-2013, 01:41 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/02/illinois-dems-press-forward-with-gun-control-bills-firearms-group-warns-no/

Illinois Senate Democrats advanced legislation late Wednesday to restrict semiautomatic weapons and high-capacity magazines,
pressing forward with new gun control measures in the waning days of the session over the objections of firearms groups.
Amid the developments, the Illinois State Rifle Association issued an “urgent alert” to its members
warning them that Democratic legislators were trying to push through last-minute anti-gun legislation.
“There would be no exemptions and no grandfathering,” the group stated in its alert.
“You would have a very short window to turn in your guns to the state police and avoid prosecution.”
A Senate committee approved two bills, one dealing with the weapons and the other with magazines.
Democratic supporters could face a tough sell in the full Senate.
One measure would ban the possession, delivery, sale and transfer of semiautomatic handguns and rifles.
People who currently own such weapons could keep them but would have to register them.
The bill would allow semiautomatic weapons to be used at shooting ranges, but those facilities would be regulated.
National Rifle Association lobbyist Todd Vandermyde told lawmakers the bill would restrict about 75 percent of handguns
and 50 percent of long guns in circulation today.
He also said it would treat law-abiding gun owners like criminals,
and is in conflict with Second Amendment rights upheld by the courts.
"I've never seen a piece of legislation that tramples on so many court decisions," Vandermyde said.
The other bill, introduced by Democratic state Sen. Dan Kotowski,
would limit ammunition magazines to 10 or fewer rounds.
Those pushing for enhanced restrictions say stricter rules are needed
in the wake of a string of high-profile mass shootings --
most recently the deadly school shooting in Newtown, Conn.
Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn had been trying earlier this year to pass new legislation
in the wake of the Colorado movie theater shooting, but lawmakers are taking another crack at it.
Kotowski sponsored legislation in 2007 that would have prohibited assault weapons and .50-caliber rifles.
His bill made it through a Senate committee but died on the floor.
Another Democratic state lawmaker, Antonio Munoz, introduced the ban on all assault weapons “designed for war.”
Quinn has repeatedly tried to get stricter laws on the books but has fallen short.
The state Senate got back to work Wednesday.
The House plans to return Monday.
Both legislative bodies are working against a Jan. 9 deadline --
when the state’s new General Assembly will be sworn-in.
Gun manufactures in Illinois have already threatened to leave the area if laws limiting guns are put in place.
ArmaLite owner Mark Westrom told FoxNews.com that he’s been fielding offers from at least two others states
to move his operation if gun control laws in Illinois are pushed through.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Barth
01-03-2013, 02:33 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8940209
January 2, 2013 (SPRINGFIELD, Ill.) (WLS) -- Two new gun control bills were approved Wednesday night by a Senate committee in Springfield.

One bill bans the sale of semi-automatic handguns and rifles.

Under the proposal, people who already own them would be able to keep them but must register the guns.

A second bill bans high capacity ammunition clips.
The bill would limit clips to no more than 10 rounds.

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a vocal gun control advocate, applauded the committee for its action on the bills.

"I commend the members of the Public Health Committee of the Illinois Senate for approving gun-control legislation
that restricts high-capacity magazines and assault weapons designed for battlefields and not America's streets,"
Emanuel said in a press release. "In order to protect our children,
our families and our communities, we need common-sense laws that provide the residents of our cities with the safety they deserve."

Both bills now go to the full senate.

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Chicago is still reeling from more than five hundred murders in 2012, and the homicides are already out-pacing the days of this new year.

Bawanna
01-03-2013, 03:13 PM
What would Rahm Emanuel know about common sense? What kind of name is that anyhow, anybody check for a birth certificate?

MikeyKahr
01-03-2013, 04:27 PM
This is the Dems response to the courts saying IL has to reconsider allowing CC within the next six months. More regulations and fees yet to come, for sure. Wonder if Springfield and Armalite will be moving to TX?

Longitude Zero
01-03-2013, 04:40 PM
Chicago has heavy weapon control ordinances and among the highest homicide rates in the country. A direct corelation.

AJBert
01-03-2013, 10:06 PM
Enough said.

http://www.beaufortobserver.net/Articles-NEWS-and-COMMENTARY-c-2013-01-02-264617.112112-500-murders-in-Chicago-show-gun-bans-dont-work.html

hotpig
01-03-2013, 10:57 PM
The Chicago Dems did a unofficial poll of the Legislators today and do not have enough votes. This was tabled until they can get enough support.

Right now they are trying to get support by the following methods. If you join me in the AWB I`will help you get funding for road work in your District. I will close down the State Park or Prison in your District if you do not support the AWB. You have a nice looking family. I hope no thing bad happens to any of them, you know with all those guns out on the streets.

AJBert
01-04-2013, 09:02 PM
The Chicago Dems did a unofficial poll of the Legislators today and do not have enough votes. This was tabled until they can get enough support.

Right now they are trying to get support by the following methods. If you join me in the AWB I`will help you get funding for road work in your District. I will close down the State Park or Prison in your District if you do not support the AWB. You have a nice looking family. I hope no thing bad happens to any of them, you know with all those guns out on the streets.
Politics as usual at every level, on both sides.

muggsy
01-04-2013, 09:32 PM
What would Rahm Emanuel know about common sense? What kind of name is that anyhow, anybody check for a birth certificate?

Rahm is Jewish. Most Jews are liberal progressive democrats. It's hard to believe that they learned nothing from the holocaust.

hotpig
01-04-2013, 09:39 PM
They changed some of the wording and plan on introducing it again on Sunday night.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/23323_191091654362607_1814391795_n.jpg

Bawanna
01-05-2013, 04:28 PM
http://www.dailypaul.com/267875/the-san-antonio-theater-shooting

Interesting.

K.C.
01-06-2013, 05:13 PM
Illinois gun ban stopped !!!! Action applauded at the end.

0bDJW97xBAE

yqtszhj
01-06-2013, 05:21 PM
I hope they are getting the word.

downtownv
01-07-2013, 05:06 AM
The revolutionary war started in Concord, Mass, My bets are the next one will Be Chicago, ILL!
Chicago is PROOF that Gun Laws have zero effect on gun violence, simply because criminals, don't care about their laws!

johnk568
01-07-2013, 11:08 AM
Howdy,

We stopped them cold with their legislations. We at illinoiscarry are proud of our defensive movements to kill this POS legislation. We have the finest NRA Lobbyist in Todd and the backing of Illinois State Rifle Association. We are in the process of getting CCW laws in Illinois. It will happen before 6-9-13. If not by then, we have constitutional carry. That's a fact!

johnk568

johnk568
01-07-2013, 11:11 AM
Howdy,

If we are the line drawn in the sand, so be it. We are ready! Illinois was the 4th state in the union with over 1 million hits at NCIC. We bow to Kentucky , Texas, and Pennsylvania. Kentucky has over 2 million hits.

Molon lube

johnk568

chrish
01-07-2013, 12:17 PM
Howdy,

We stopped them cold with their legislations. We at illinoiscarry are proud of our defensive movements to kill this POS legislation. We have the finest NRA Lobbyist in Todd and the backing of Illinois State Rifle Association. We are in the process of getting CCW laws in Illinois. It will happen before 6-9-13. If not by then, we have constitutional carry. That's a fact!

johnk568

Good work John, keep up the fight. I will check out Illinois carry and see if they have a donation mechanism for their organization.

All, we need to help if we can in the high-attack-prone areas like Illinois, California, and much of the North East. In addition to my regular memberships in my state and w/ the NRA, going to be looking at funneling money to these places as well!

It's time to put up or shut up folks!

hotpig
01-07-2013, 08:17 PM
Illinois gun ban stopped !!!! Action applauded at the end.

0bDJW97xBAE It was only stopped for a few hours. They again tried to bring it up this morning.

muggsy
01-10-2013, 03:59 PM
Did I detect just a hint of fear in her eyes?

hotpig
01-10-2013, 04:18 PM
Did I detect just a hint of fear in her eyes?
No fear, a few hours after the news confrence they tried to sneak it through.