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Armybrat
01-12-2013, 09:34 PM
http://www.kvue.com/news/Houston-robbery-victim-wants-to-thank-Good-Samaritans-who-came-to-his-rescue--186634461.html


Posted on January 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM

HOUSTON -- A couple of strangers came to the rescue when a man was robbed at gunpoint. Now, the victim wants to say thank you to the Good Samaritans.

Police believe the criminal who was canvassing a neighborhood in the 2500 block of Wichita near Hermann Park had no idea what he was in for when he picked his target.

The victim in this case had just walked back to his car from a bar around the corner.

Kevin Dorsey says he hadn’t even closed his car door Thursday night when a man wearing all black and a ski mask put a gun to his chest. The man took Dorsey’s wallet, cell phone and car keys.

After he was robbed, Dorsey began running down the street and says two men in a Mercedes asked him what had happened.

Dorsey told them and they not only caught up with the suspect, but they started shooting at him.

The suspect fired back. In the end, the two witnesses turned vigilantes won and took down the bad guy.

“I don’t believe in guns,” said Dorsey. “I don’t own a gun. I’m totally at the mercy of my saviors. They obviously sent two angels to help me. These people protected me when I couldn’t protect myself.”

After the robber had been shot, police say he jumped over a fence and was attacked by a German Shepherd. That attack prevented him from getting away.

The suspect, identified as Christopher Hutchins, is being treated at Ben Taub Hospital. He’s expected to recover


Dog oughta get a blood test for STDs.


Notice that here in Texas the article didn't refer to the perp who got shot as the "victim".

wyntrout
01-12-2013, 10:46 PM
That's pretty foolhardy... chasing after an armed bad guy for someone else's "STUFF"!

They could be judged in the wrong for shooting at him or hitting him as he was "fleeing"! They could be sued if he was injured or killed, too, in the pursuit of his "profession"!

That's just way too risky!:rolleyes:

Wynn:)

warbird1
01-12-2013, 11:00 PM
Sounds like robber had a bad day at work!

O'Dell
01-13-2013, 02:00 AM
That's pretty foolhardy... chasing after an armed bad guy for someone else's "STUFF"!

They could be judged in the wrong for shooting at him or hitting him as he was "fleeing"! They could be sued if he was injured or killed, too, in the pursuit of his "profession"!

That's just way too risky!:rolleyes:

Wynn:)

I agree that it's foolish to chase an armed BG with anybody's "stuff" including your own, but if he fired first, you'd be pretty safe in this part of the country for taking him down. Personally, I wouldn't draw on anyone who wasn't a threat to me or mine, but if someone aims a gun at me, all bets are off.

pineappleshooter
01-13-2013, 10:49 AM
The two "samaratins" were in the wrong. Discharging a firearm in public is a serious matter and should only be considered to defend your (or someone else's) life. If they had come upon the robbery while the perp had a gun pointed at the victim then they have justification to use deadly force - not so after the victim was safe from harm since the perp had left.

Don't get me wrong, I think it is funny he got shot and chewed but the samaritans were in the wrong for risking their (and innocent bystanders) lives. My two cents worth.

KoolBreeze
01-13-2013, 02:44 PM
We've come a long ways from hanging horse thieves in this country, haven't we? I applaud their courage as it was just, whether it was legal or not.

les strat
01-13-2013, 07:59 PM
The two "samaratins" were in the wrong. Discharging a firearm in public is a serious matter and should only be considered to defend your (or someone else's) life. If they had come upon the robbery while the perp had a gun pointed at the victim then they have justification to use deadly force - not so after the victim was safe from harm since the perp had left.

Don't get me wrong, I think it is funny he got shot and chewed but the samaritans were in the wrong for risking their (and innocent bystanders) lives. My two cents worth.


We've come a long ways from hanging horse thieves in this country, haven't we? I applaud their courage as it was just, whether it was legal or not.


But good people are tired of being "in the wrong" if they level the score while being taking advantage of by bad guys. Maybe the bad guys need to be be scared of retaliation.

KoolBreeze
01-13-2013, 11:19 PM
But good people are tired of being "in the wrong" if they level the score while being taking advantage of by bad guys. Maybe the bad guys need to be be scared of retaliation.

I was being sarcastic, in case you didn't detect that. Too bad the German Shepherd didn't finish him off, if you ask me.

Booker T
01-13-2013, 11:31 PM
While I applaud their taking action, they were definitely breaking the law where I come from, by engaging the bad guy after the fact. Like someone mentioned above, they're lucky they didn't kill him.
Even though the piece of crap deserved it, I can see them possibly facing some legal issues.

Armybrat
01-14-2013, 09:51 AM
While I applaud their taking action, they were definitely breaking the law where I come from, by engaging the bad guy after the fact. Like someone mentioned above, they're lucky they didn't kill him.
Even though the piece of crap deserved it, I can see them possibly facing some legal issues.

Not here in Texas they won't.

The perp was still in the act of committing a felony crime - fleeing the scene.

Deadly force can be employed to stop a felony crime from being committed.

Booker T
01-14-2013, 09:49 PM
Armybrat, really? Here in Missouri you're only justified until there is no longer an immediate threat.
Once the person is no longer in close enough proximity to you to cause you bodily harm, you cannot respond with deadly force.
Except in a circumstance where say, you were in a store or something and someone came in to rob it. You could draw on them and fire as they were running out the door, but you could not chase them down.

Cheers to Texas!

JustinN
01-15-2013, 08:15 AM
This is just crazy to me. The bad guy definitely got what he deserved, but the way it reads, those people took a HUGE risk. How were they even sure it was the robber? If I was walking down the sidewalk and two guys I don't know start trying to get me to stop, etc, I'm probably not going to....and then they start shooting at me?!

It's one of those situations that's so tricky. I'm so glad the BG guy what was coming to him, and will make him think twice I'm sure, BUT what if they had attacked the wrong person? Then we get the whole "armed vigilante's attack innocent" and in the end the guns get demonized, not the robber....Either way, I'm glad it ended up the way it did but I'd say luck had a good chunk of it.....or more happened than the media let on (Like bad guy got confronted and pulled his gun, so they fired on him, etc). Even then, I won't be getting killed for a strangers wallet if I can help it....

Craig1056
01-15-2013, 09:53 AM
In CT I would be in jail quicker than the BG and it's only going to get worse. Not that I would pursue for a wallet and cell phone. Can always replace that stuff.

Armybrat
01-15-2013, 10:17 AM
Personally, I wouldn't be chasing anybody down like that - too much potential danger for an innocent person to get hurt. All for a wallet? No.

Call it in & track the perp, but let the LEO take him down in the end.