New CW45

[270win]

I'm new to Khar, I have been looking for a small 45 to conceal. I've been carrying a Glock 30 which is considerably heavier and wider. Since I'm planning to carry this gun all the time I'm hoping it will be as reliable as my 30 has been. I know there's a 200 round break-in period, so today my wife and I went to the range to shoot several of our pistols and the AK47.

I put about 100 rounds through the Khar, but there were quite a few jams, actually it jammed 11 times in all. 7 jams were ejector related and 4 were feed ramp jams. We were shooting PMC 230gr ball ammo, but we shot two clips of defense ammo, Cor-Bon +P230gr, it jammed with either ammo consistently.

Now I realize that this is the break in period, but I have to admit I'm a bit concerned because I'm planning to carry this pistol daily.

On the plus side, it's a deadly accurate pistol that points very well. Recoil is no issue at all even with +P ammo. I also really like the way it carries. The trigger is amazingly smooth, but I can't tell when the break is coming. I'm sure it's because I'm used to the Glock trigger which has a defined break point in the trigger pull.

Over all I like the gun, the jamming issue is my only concern, but I have to admit it's a big concern. The Glock will be in the holster tomorrow, but I hope to change that soon.

Any input from those with more Khar experience is welcome and appreciated!

[wyntrout]

The .45's don't have as much room in the area between the chamber and the breech face and things can not work as they should. There's a good link to look at that covers most of this stuff. Maybe something will look familiar:

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14749

Wynn:)

[270win]

The .45's don't have as much room in the area between the chamber and the breech face and things can not work as they should. There's a good link to look at that covers most of this stuff. Maybe something will look familiar:

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14749

Wynn:)

Yes, the FTE pic looked familiar...so is this to be expected? Because this is not something I expect from a new pistol. There seem to be a lot of fixes for these pistols.

While I greatly appreciate the link, I'm not working on a new pistol, I'll finish the break in and video the jams so I can send it back to Khar. If they can't make it work then I'll sell it and find something else. I'd hate to do that but I can't carry or trust a weapon that doesn't function properly all the time.

I'll let you know how the next 100 rounds do tomorrow. It's still in the break-in period so I'm not making a judgement call just yet.

[jocko]

while ur testing it out, let anutter shooter try the gun also. see if he can duplicate ur issues..

[wyntrout]

That was a collection of problems and not what everyone should expect. I figured that your problem(s) would be among those... things to look for.

Most of my Kahrs have had one or more problems, but between kahrtalk and Kahr, I was able to resolve them all and my pistols are what I want for CCW... the most compact and ergonomic in my opinion.

Wynn:)

[270win]

That was a collection of problems and not what everyone should expect. I figured that your problem(s) would be among those... things to look for.

Most of my Kahrs have had one or more problems, but between kahrtalk and Kahr, I was able to resolve them all and my pistols are what I want for CCW... the most compact and ergonomic in my opinion.

Wynn:)

I figured they weren't all to be expected. And I appreciate the link and the effort to help get this thing working properly.

I like the ergonomics for sure and hope to CCW mine as well.

I guess the question is, why doesn't Khar just make these pistols to work right out of the box?

[yqtszhj]

I have a CW45 and mine runs good now after the breakin.

Make sure that you did/do the initial clean, prep, and lube of a new Kahr in the new member area if you didn't already. http://kahrtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=56

clean it up and lube it real good and it should run better next time. PMC ball should work OK. I shoot it all the time. Let us know how it goes.

[newCW45guy]

You said PMC ball.. I assume that's round nose not truncated flat nose. Round nose and more tapered HPs feed better.

I'd suggest two things

1) take the mag apart and make sure the spring is inserted properly. The follower should be pointed up not down.

2) Squeeze the grip like your life depended on it. This gun is light and will not tolerate anything but a death grip. I had some issues at the beginning and added Traction Grips http://www.tractiongrips.com/catalog/c10_p1.html Seems to have improved my rapid 2nd shot feeding.

I'm 350 rounds in and the only issue is shooting from the hip seems like I'm limp wristing it and does still cause problems. I'm still concerned about that issue.

I see no need for +P for the .45... 230grs packs plenty of punch at standard velocity.

Currently carrying Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel which is designed for short barrels. I might try the Glaser Powerball though. If they reduce recoil at all that might be my carry round.

[270win]

I have a CW45 and mine runs good now after the breakin.

Make sure that you did/do the initial clean, prep, and lube of a new Kahr in the new member area if you didn't already. http://kahrtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=56

clean it up and lube it real good and it should run better next time. PMC ball should work OK. I shoot it all the time. Let us know how it goes.

I found that link and will clean and lube it before I shoot it later today.

So I'm wondering, if the CW45 gets dirt in it will it tend to FTF like a 1911?

[270win]

You said PMC ball.. I assume that's round nose not truncated flat nose. Round nose and more tapered HPs feed better.

I'd suggest two things

1) take the mag apart and make sure the spring is inserted properly. The follower should be pointed up not down.

2) Squeeze the grip like your life depended on it. This gun is light and will not tolerate anything but a death grip. I had some issues at the beginning and added Traction Grips http://www.tractiongrips.com/catalog/c10_p1.html Seems to have improved my rapid 2nd shot feeding.

I'm 350 rounds in and the only issue is shooting from the hip seems like I'm limp wristing it and does still cause problems. I'm still concerned about that issue.

I see no need for +P for the .45... 230grs packs plenty of punch at standard velocity.

Currently carrying Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel which is designed for short barrels. I might try the Glaser Powerball though. If they reduce recoil at all that might be my carry round.
I think the ammo is a personal preference, I use +P with the 45ACP because I want good penetration. We tried some Glaser Powerball in my wife's Glock 19 yesterday and it was really hot ammo! 1450fps compared to 1100 fps with Hornady Critical Duty. She preferred the Hornady.

I tend to use a pretty tight dominant hand grip, my wife was holding it so tight she had grip marks on her hand. It jammed with both of us.


I'll see how it shoots later today and post the results here.

[wyntrout]

+P in short barreled pistols as Kahrs, can help with expansion and penetration... OR, use the Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel round for carry. This ammo is designed to function with better expansion and penetration in short-barreled pistols. I use the Short Barrel version in 9mm, .40, and .45. There isn't one for .380, so I use the +P 90-gr Gold Dots by Buffalo Bore, and soon as I check them for function... the Underwood +P .380 Gold Dots. I prefer bonded bullets with a good reputation for performance. I also have Underwood +P 230-gr Gold Dots... still need to function test those in my .45's, and this will be the first +P .45 that I've shot in my present pistols, but it's what's available after much searching online at $34 a box of 50.

Wynn:)

[270win]

okay, well I've stripped, prepped and lubed the pistol. I'm heading to the range to burn another 100+ rounds through it to see what happens.

I noticed on stripping and cleaning that the gun shows minimal wear considering the number of rounds put through it yesterday.

I really hope it works out, I love the way the gun feels in my hand!

[270win]

It jammed 10 times and I shot 150 rounds through it. 3ftf and 7fte.

Anyone wanna buy a CW45 with 250 rounds through it???

[jocko]

u did not state if u let anutter decent shooter try the gun to see ifhe can duplicate ur issues.... Just sayin

[270win]

I took lots of pics that I'll post later this evening...I will say this though, it's a delay accurate pistol!!! I have a pic of the target too. In 250 rounds I've quickly grown to like the trigger on this pistol...a lot!

[270win]

u did not state if u let anutter decent shooter try the gun to see ifhe can duplicate ur issues.... Just sayin

Sorry, I may not have me filmed that here. My wife shot it with same results. And this isn't my first rodeo, I've owned many different pistols and this one is the most problematic when it comes to jamming.

It's even more frustrating because I really do like the gun in every other way.

[O'Dell]

I've had two CW45's and never had a problem with either of them. I've never used PMC or Corbon ammo though. Mine ran fine with Federal or Remington bulk or Federal HST or Golden Sabers. I generally consider the CW series one of Kahr's most reliable models and I've had seven Kahrs, four CW's. If it gets no better, I'd let Kahr know. I've never had to used their CS, but most seem to find it good. I feel sure they'll make it right.

[jocko]

Sorry, I may not have me filmed that here. My wife shot it with same results. And this isn't my first rodeo, I've owned many different pistols and this one is the most problematic when it comes to jamming.

It's even more frustrating because I really do like the gun in every other way.

then why not give kahr a callaskfor Jay , state ur case and give um one chance to make it right for u:israel:

[270win]

I took it back to my local gun store where I bought it. They said their gunsmith will look at it tomorrow. If he doesn't see anything then they'll send it to Khar for me. They swore it's the first one they've had issues with...I was obviously not very happy because I made it clear when I bought it that it was going to be my CCW and it needed to be RELIABLE. I don't know about Khar, but the local shop does take good care of me.

[270win]

Some pics from the range-
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z275/1kwik72/13F060B4-6DEE-434E-8005-B5203C0580A3-4826-00000256055337EA.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z275/1kwik72/CEA2453F-C5B4-4C8F-914E-E5FC8944A998-4826-00000256343CE3C6.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z275/1kwik72/AA57876A-5C2C-474E-830A-BFC90389779D-4826-000002563F53ABAD.jpg

[270win]

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z275/1kwik72/440D3C6E-D2D4-49B1-BD7D-F90E42095894-4826-00000256508A5C27.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z275/1kwik72/440D3C6E-D2D4-49B1-BD7D-F90E42095894-4826-00000256508A5C27.jpg

I have a few more pics but they're all about the same.

Here's the target i used, this is at 15 yards. I shot in the order of, center, top left, top right, bottom right, bottom left.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z275/1kwik72/BC1B3565-DFA6-4583-93D2-810AB6072F3B-4826-0000025664438DCD.jpg

[wyntrout]

Dang! You may have an extractor or ejector... or both, problem. It WOULD be best for Kahr to check that out.

I hope they fix it up for you!

Wynn:)

[270win]

Dang! You may have an extractor or ejector... or both, problem. It WOULD be best for Kahr to check that out.

I hope they fix it up for you!

Wynn:)

Me too, I'll keep y'all posted on what the gunsmith has to say too.

[wyntrout]

That would be good for all of us to find out! I've had bad extractors that turned the pistol into blowback operated without extraction... the claw of my second P380 was resting on the breechface and the cartridge rims could not get under it to be retained during the firing and ejection process. You could see that was the case.

Wynn:)

[MC1911]

Mine only bobbled once on the first mag with some russian ammo.

Perfect since then. Have Kahr make it right. You will love it then.

[270win]

No word today. I'll call the shop tomorrow to see if they know anything...

[270win]

I talked to the gun shop today, the guy couldn't give me specifics because the person that spoke with the gunsmith wasn't there. But he did say that the gunsmith said it had several issues and needed to go back to Khar. He said they'd most likely have to replace the whole pistol... I'll try to find out specifically what's wrong with it. I'll let y'all know what Khar does. The gun shop asked me what I wanted to do if there was a charge. I can't type here what I told them. :rolleyes: But I was assured it would cost me nothing.

[mikek53]

I had about the same problem plus a few failure to feed with mine shooting Remington bulk from Wal-Mart. I shot 50 Winchester white box flawlessly and I didn't have a problem until I started shooting the Remington. I've shot 200 rounds now and have about 50 Remington left and a couple boxes of Federals. I'd like to finish the Remington and shoot the Federal to see how they shoot before I think of having someone look at the gun. - Mike

[CJB]

I'll say... One problem for me.... Kahr resolved it. Even with that....the function was good. Two Pm45s and a PM9....all good to carry.

One other thing, youre not supposed to know the break point in the trigger. Different school of thought with Kahr triggers. Just cuz it has a striker....it dont mean its a Glock. Kahr is a semi auto dao revolver... In the trigger dept that is.

[hershey]

Those pics look just like my CW45...I had 17 fte and one fail to go into battery in the first 100 rounds.

Extractor and ejector problems eh? If I can't depend on it I REFUSE to carry it...getting to look more like it's getting replaced with an XDs.....

[yqtszhj]

Hang in there. Kahr will fix it and it shouldn't cost you anything. Like you said the trigger is sweet and it shoots right on target. I started carrying mine this winter instead of my CM9 and it carries well also.

Don't give up. They should fix it up for you.

[270win]

It's still not back...I know that things are crazy right now but it's been gone a while. I found an old Glock 21 (Big .45ACP) pretty cheap. I picked it up and took it to Glock which is about 45 minutes from my home. It was a 2nd gen gun with no tactical rail, a ban 10 round magazine and a ban trigger (8lb. pull). They charged me $100 to give me a gen 3 frame complete with 5.5lb trigger group, all new slide internals, spring and guide rod AND a new 13 round magazine...to top it off they installed night sights for $57. This is what I'm talking about when I ask for customer service. I even told them I bought it from a friend used.

Anyway, my local gun shop has offered to eat the price of the Khar and take it back. But I have to decide before I take it from them whenever it comes back. I'm not sure which way to go. I have to admit that I'm leaning toward letting them take it back and crediting me for a new gun.

[Armybrat]

Well, try it out again after it comes back.

Haven't fired mine in a while, so hope it doesn't start acting up the next time out.

Good luck.

[270win]

Well, try it out again after it comes back.

Haven't fired mine in a while, so hope it doesn't start acting up the next time out.

Good luck.

I have to see what they say, if they offer to really buy it backI'll let it go.

[270win]

After weeks and weeks, the gun came back today. Khar never responded to any of my or my FFL's emails or phone calls. That was pretty disappointing, then all of the sudden it showed up today. They said they replaced the entire slide. We're going to the range tomorrow night and I plan to try the pistol again. If it'll work then I'll keep it. I had really planned to just let it go, I have other pistols that will conceal as well as it does, but they're 9mm and I prefer .45ACP.

I wonder if I'll have to break it in again? I got nothing from Khar other than that they replaced the slide, lubed it and test fired it...I know dang well that they won't answer the phones or emails so does anyone here know?

[270win]

First magazine, 2 FTE. Went to get the range gunsmith. He shot 4 rounds, all premium defense ammo. 2 of the 4 FTE. He said it's got to go back to Khar. It's still smashing the crap out of the brass EXACTLY like it was before. I'm done, this particular gun is crap. It's comfortable, concealable, accurate and it'll get you killed in a gun fight. I'm not waiting another 5 weeks of being ignored by Khar only to have them send me another pile of excrement. I'm glad these guns are good for most of you.

[MC1911]

I am saddened by your bad experience with your cw45. Good luck with your next pistol.

[270win]

I am saddened by your bad experience with your cw45. Good luck with your next pistol.

I really appreciate that. Me too. Is there a higher line of Khar 45 that's as small? I don't mind price, and I prefer a 45. My Glocks (which I love ) are just too big to carry as comfortably as this CW45.

[MC1911]

I would look at an XDs.

[270win]

I looked at one yesterday. I liked it, it's the same size as my Glock26. I've not heard anything bad about them and they cost the same. I'm not a fan of the grip safety...I don't really get the point of it, but I'm not a gun designer either. And I do like the idea of carrying a 45. I know a 9mm is an effective weapon, the 45 is just a cartridge I feel good shooting. I appreciate your input!

[gb6491]

I looked at one yesterday. I liked it, it's the same size as my Glock26. I've not heard anything bad about them and they cost the same. I'm not a fan of the grip safety...I don't really get the point of it, but I'm not a gun designer either. And I do like the idea of carrying a 45. I know a 9mm is an effective weapon, the 45 is just a cartridge I feel good shooting. I appreciate your input!
There are some folks that have had problems with their XD-S (light strikes seemingly the biggest complaint). My first XD-S would occasionally fail to chamber 230 grain Hornady XTP, it's replacement has been trouble free.
http://i45.tinypic.com/2gv1z5i.jpg
Regards,
Greg

[270win]

Thanks for the input Greg! I'm not sure what I don't like about the XDs...I'm sitting here watching youtube video reviews of them now. But I'm also watching reviews of the Khar PM45. I know it's more. The question is why? What's the real difference in the CW line and the PM line? Is there a quality difference or a difference in materials? If my CW had been reliable I'd be very satisfied with it.

[yqtszhj]

Thanks for that post Greg.

Man that Kahr looks good. Same length as the XD-s and a better grip. Flat base plate and night sights too.

I may just stick with my Kahr and just buy more ammo and bling for it.

[270win]

Thanks for that post Greg.

Man that Kahr looks good. Same length as the XD-s and a better grip. Flat base plate and night sights too.

I may just stick with my Kahr and just buy more ammo and bling for it.

If mine would feed ammo I'd say the exact same thing! :)

[yqtszhj]

Hang in there. Let Kahr fix it up for you. You'll be glad you did.

[Kong]

So I just bought a CW45 the other day and am starting to get pretty concerned I may have made the wrong choice. Haven't taken it to the range yet. Don't know if I want to deal with all these issues. Everyone I talked to prior to purchase says It's an awesome gun

[270win]

So I just bought a CW45 the other day and am starting to get pretty concerned I may have made the wrong choice. Haven't taken it to the range yet. Don't know if I want to deal with all these issues. Everyone I talked to prior to purchase says It's an awesome gun

Let me say this, my personal experience with this gun has been bad, but every one I talk to about these pistols is shocked at my experience. I will say again, this pistol is very impressive with regard to accuracy, conceal-ability and ergonomics. I'd like to see what Khar or my local ffl does to make this right...I'll keep you guys posted.

My advice to you would be to clean your pistol and lube it according to the sticky. Take your pistol to the range and shoot at least 200 rounds through it. If yours works well, you will be VERY happy with it. If mine fed the ammo as it should it would be an excellent weapon. I don't want my thread to make you concerned about your purchase. Yes, I'm not really happy with mine so far, but I can't believe that everyone here is willing to accept inferior quality just to protect the Khar brand. I know that some of my previous posts have vented some frustration, but go shoot yours and see what you have.

[Kong]

My concern is not just what I've read on your thread. I've seen other posts about the same issues. I really like the gun's size, the way it feels, the way it wears but if It's not reliable, It's useless as a CCW. I already have an issue and maybe It's just me. The first time I loaded the magazine and loaded in the gun, realeased the catch, it didn't fully load the round. Later, after I got it to properly chamber, I ran into an L. E. O friend of mine and showed it to him. He told me he liked his Kahr better than his Glock. He dropped the mag and tried to unload the round but had an extremely difficult time getting the slide to move.

[270win]

....if It's not reliable, It's useless as a CCW....
I agree with that.



I already have an issue and maybe It's just me. The first time I loaded the magazine and loaded in the gun, realeased the catch, it didn't fully load the round. Later, after I got it to properly chamber, I ran into an L. E. O friend of mine and showed it to him. He told me he liked his Kahr better than his Glock. He dropped the mag and tried to unload the round but had an extremely difficult time getting the slide to move.
I wonder if their quality control is slipping. The fact that mine was bad from the factory is understandable, everyone gets a lemon every now and then...it happens. But to send mine back and it still to be doing the same thing says the problem could be deeper than just a simple mistake. At some point there has to be a lack of attention to detail on several levels. I'd be very interested to hear how yours does when you go shoot it.

I sent Khar an email yesterday. I'll post their reply here.

[yqtszhj]

He dropped the mag and tried to unload the round but had an extremely difficult time getting the slide to move.

What ammo was this? Is that with basic FMJ range ammo? My CW45 won't take hornady because of the bullet length. The slide doesn't want to go all the way forward. It will take Federal JHP and Gold Dots ok. It eats all range ammo that I have fed it. My CM9 and previous cw9 eats everything period.

Other than my Ruger MkIII .22, I have had less trouble with my Kahr pistols than any other semi auto I have owned(3 of them.) My Kahr's have been better than Bersa, Beretta's, and Ruger LCP overall.

[scattershot]

Mine wouldn't even chamber GI ball ammo, which I consider to be the gold standard of in spec ammo. I sent it back to Kahr, and they re-cut the chamber. It will hand cycle now, but I'm withholding judgement until I can shoot it.

I had a K9 which was a real sweetheart, but heavy, and my brother has a KM40 (the small one) which is a good shooter, too. I'm not sure what the problem is with my CW45, but I don't think I'd ever buy another one. Just too many good reliable .45 autos out there.

[Kong]

It was Fiocchi Extreme XTP 200gr. I finally got to the range last night and am pleased to report, out of 100 rounds I had 0 failures. Gun performed flawlessly. I had even gotten advice where I had bought the gun that certain 1911 mags would work so I had purchased an 8rd mad (14.99 as opposed to 47.99 from Kahr) and it actually worked better and was easier to load that my Kahr mag.

[270win]

That's great to hear! I sent Khar an email on Saturday and they replied on Monday. The person that replied to me is named Jay. He was very apologetic and he sent me a FedEx return mail certificate. He assured me that my pistol would be examined by their head gunsmith and that they would be sure to respond to my problems quickly. At the same time, my FFL told me that if I don't have the pistol back within two weeks he will refund 100% of my money. So I guess either way this will work out fine. But, I'd rather have that CW 45 working properly than the refund.

[Kong]

After shooting, I can understand what everyone's been saying it's a great gun to shoot. Hopefully they will get your issues resolved soon. Maybe they should just replace the gun with a new on and see if that is any better?

[270win]

After shooting, I can understand what everyone's been saying it's a great gun to shoot. Hopefully they will get your issues resolved soon. Maybe they should just replace the gun with a new on and see if that is any better?

I agree 100% that when this pistol functions properly it is extremely impressive! I requested that they replace the pistol, but they did not address that request specifically. They did, however, say that they would resolve these issues... So I'm expecting a positive outcome.

[burdicda]

I tried every small 45 at a huge gun show recently and the only 45 that I felt was a fit was the CW45, after fondling XDS's, Taurus, Bersa's, Glock's, all of them. I carried a Taurus 651 and a S&W 642 both ultra lights, and ultra small for years (revolvers) and finally wanted to join this century by going to a semiauto. My first range trip was yesterday and it was a disaster...there was a gun smith there and he was familiar with the CW45 and was highly respectful of both the company and the model, but we could not get it to chamber or function at all. I think maybe got 2 shots out of it both times first round at top of mag. I fully intend to get to the bottom of this and did not do the initial prep sticky...but I will today, and have already applied for a RA from Kahr in case I cannot get her to dance....LOL Like everyone else in hundreds of forum posts about the CW45 I want this gun, I like this gun, this gun carries real nice with no holster at all in my bluejeans front pocket...Now if I could just get it to accept that it's a gun and it's job is to go BANG when I say so...

[Longitude Zero]

Like everyone else in hundreds of forum posts about the CW45 I want this gun, I like this gun, this gun carries real nice with no holster at all in my bluejeans front pocket...Now if I could just get it to accept that it's a gun and it's job is to go BANG when I say so...

I love mine and have had only a couple of bobbles inthe first 50 rounds which I expected. Good luck and great shooting.

[b4uqzme]

Hang in there gentlemen. It's worth it. Do the prep sticky. Then reserve judgement until after the 200 rounds. You will appreciate how tightly made these guns are as they age. Mine are 11 and 15 yrs old and flawless. Or you could consider going stainless. You can find used ones at your price point and they aren't THAT heavy. Good luck.

[b4uqzme]

Burdicda. Sorry I cannot condone the no holster thing. Be safe. Thanks.

[wyntrout]

I tried every small 45 at a huge gun show recently and the only 45 that I felt was a fit was the CW45, after fondling XDS's, Taurus, Bersa's, Glock's, all of them. I carried a Taurus 651 and a S&W 642 both ultra lights, and ultra small for years (revolvers) and finally wanted to join this century by going to a semiauto. My first range trip was yesterday and it was a disaster...there was a gun smith there and he was familiar with the CW45 and was highly respectful of both the company and the model, but we could not get it to chamber or function at all. I think maybe got 2 shots out of it both times first round at top of mag. I fully intend to get to the bottom of this and did not do the initial prep sticky...but I will today, and have already applied for a RA from Kahr in case I cannot get her to dance....LOL Like everyone else in hundreds of forum posts about the CW45 I want this gun, I like this gun, this gun carries real nice with no holster at all in my bluejeans front pocket...Now if I could just get it to accept that it's a gun and it's job is to go BANG when I say so...

That sounds a little like my first outing with my brand new PM45. From the slide locked back position, I could NOT chamber a round by releasing the slide lock. The leading bottom edge of the slide on the breech face is the "stripper" and it rested on top of the rim, so the slide just jammed there, or if forced skinned over the top of the round in the magazine. We came to find out later that this edge should be beveled and allow the "stripper" to move behind the cartridge case by pushing the top cartridge/magazine forward a tiny bit, enough to allow the cartridge rim to get in front of the stripper. The angle of bevel is not "critical"... around 45°, and can be accomplished with a small file or whet stone, followed by a little polishing. Many have beveled their own Kahrs... not wanting to part with their new toys.

IF I had tried a proper full rack, the slide would get behind the cartridge and work fine, BUT, I was trying to use the Kahr recommended method of chambering a round.

Here's a link on that discussion:

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14749

and that particular item:

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showpost.php?p=184763&postcount=4

Wynn:)

[burdicda]

I always feel much better when I read your follow ups after my posts..
I fully intend to get to DIY gunsmithing 101 but I really love this CW45
and want it to work correctly first...I can learn on it after I "TRUST IT"...
Overnighted it back today...and now the gun is an over $500 gun since I
paid for the overnighting...but it will still be worth it if they get her smoothed out. I never did find a gun that felt better in my hand regardless of price...or reputation...Thanks for being here everybody...this forum makes it all worth
diving into Kahr firearms.

Burdicda

Retired USAF 92
Retiring again USAF Civilian July 2013
Rem 700 SPS Varmint BBL & CW45 (We'll take it from here....)

[Buzzard45]

man, i hope you and kahr have gotten this straightened out. my new cw45 took the first 100 rounds almost perfectly, just a couple fail to fire(3 out of 100)
( should i start worrying?)