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aray
01-23-2013, 10:10 PM
My work took me on to Capital Hill today, and while there I took the opportunity to stop by the House Judiciary Committee and got to sit in on part of the hearing on the “reduce gun violence” bill. Although I only got to hear the last 40 minutes it was interesting.

What concerned me was how many references I heard to “we’ll get that fixed”, smiles all around, etc. There didn’t seem to be any opposition, at least not while I was there, to changing current federal gun laws.

That might have been because about 1/3 of the Members were absent, it might have been because of the current topic discussed while I was there (they were talking about some proposal to increase the amount of information the states shared with the Feds) wasn’t as controversial as other topics, or it might have been because the pro-gun side has rolled belly up. I wasn’t there long enough to know for certain.

The witnesses at the time included the Deputy Attorney General of the California Department of Justice (Mark LeForestier) and a retired ATF special agent (David Chipman).

Representative Jackie Speier (D-CA) asserted that the gun problem in California was a result of guns coming in from Nevada, so we needed a federal law to look across the whole country.

Chipman claimed that bad guys were going from FFL to FFL, buying one gun from each seller every day, and that BATFE had to destroy the records after 24 hours and couldn’t track serial purchases. He also said that one of the problems with the previous assault weapons ban was that since it grandfathered in old weapons, that increased their value, and with increased value that drove increased gun show and privates sales all the more (which were untrackable with no background investigation). The theme there was to ban all private sales.

Indeed Chipman closed the hearings by stating it would be like right after 9/11 the TSA was able to only screen 60% of the people who got onto airplanes. Buildings kept blowing up, he said, but they were unable to do anything about the 40%. That analogy to the “gun show loophole” cause great laugher all around by the Representatives, and the hearing was gaveled to a close.

A few other interesting comments were made while I was there:

One witness claimed that if the BATFE revoked the license of an FFL, that all of the guns in his inventory immediately converted to private ownership. The former dealer could then sell them onto the streets the next day (face to face presumably), he asserted, or set his wife up in business the next day. This “rewarded the [bad] behavior”.

In a different exchange Chipman asserted that a large percentage of the illegal guns on the streets were from internal employee theft (from those other than the owner of course). Sadly he said the BATFE was only allowed to inspect their inventory once per year, and he wanted that changed to much more frequently in order to shut down that source.

Rep. Speier commented that to “fix the backlogs and their databases in California” (whatever that meant) was estimated to cost $60M and since CA had about 10% of the population then whatever fix she was proposing would cost the nation $600M annually.

Rep. Dingle’s behavior was interesting. When it was his turn to ask questions he was very engaged. Immediately thereafter it appeared to me as if he nodded off and didn’t hear any of the follow-up discussions, until close to the very end where he popped back awake, made a few final comments, then left the hearing room early.

I wish I could have heard more. Maybe I’ll get another chance tomorrow.

JohnR
01-24-2013, 07:06 AM
"a large percentage of the illegal guns on the streets were from internal employee theft."

That sounds like total BS to me. What is "a large percentage"? 5%? Did he have a source for that?

The whole dog & pony show is BS.

yqtszhj
01-24-2013, 07:46 AM
I was listening to NPR on the way home a few weeks ago and the commentator (minority and female) stated that from personal knowledge the illegal guns on the streets of her inner city neighborhood come from wives, girlfriends, sisters, or mothers who can legally buy the firearms. They then give them to the males who have a criminal record and wouldn't be able to purchase legally. Then grind down the serial numbers so the lady's can't be traced.

Even though it was on NPR I can probably believe that statement. So, who's responsible for that????

JohnR
01-24-2013, 08:30 AM
I've read actual studies showing the vast majority of guns used in crimes are stolen or otherwise illegally obtained. Straw purchases are certainly part of that.

Here's a summary of today's bill, according to one news person:

[QUOTE]A summary of Mrs. Feinstein’s legislation is below.
Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of: 120 specifically-named firearms; certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by: Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test; eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.
Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by: Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment; exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.
Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include: Background check of owner and any transferee; type and serial number of the firearm; positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint; certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2013/jan/22/miller-national-assault-weapon-ban-coming-thursday/#ixzz2Iu1rvrla