belt clip for Kahr PM9

[gherndon]

Clipdraw… Selection Guide (http://www.clipdraw.com/guide)


I purchased the universal model and am very satisfied. It provides maximum concealment for $25.00. You can mount the belt clip toward the muzzle for quicker draw or toward the rear of the slide for maximum concealment.

[mrsig239]

pictures of the gun and of it being carried please.

[PaiN]

Wow, even the sight of a clip carry makes me cringe.

I'm sorry, but I could NEVER carry with nothing between me and an AD but luck

[Pender1]

I've tried one on my PM45. I liked it. The trigger pull is so long and heavy I'm not really worried about the trigger getting pulled. It's a nice warm weather option.

[jeep45238]

Bad ju-ju.

Very slow on the draw, retention is non-existent, doesn't keep the gun in the same place without constant readjustment, and doesn't cover the trigger.

If you feel so bothered by having to put on a holster and thread on a belt, and think that's too much effort to go through to possibly save your life - maybe you shouldn't be carrying a gun. You're a liability to society, not an asset.

[Pender1]

Bad ju-ju.

Very slow on the draw, retention is non-existent, doesn't keep the gun in the same place without constant readjustment, and doesn't cover the trigger.

If you feel so bothered by having to put on a holster and thread on a belt, and think that's too much effort to go through to possibly save your life - maybe you shouldn't be carrying a gun. You're a liability to society, not an asset.

um...I understand part of the argument, but why do you think the draw would be slow? And how would carrying this way be a danger to society? These clips keep my pistol nicely attached to my belt. I don't use the clip out of laziness, I use it as an alternate carry method. Are you going to tell me I'm a danger for pocket carrying my PM9 too?

[ltxi]

Bad ju-ju.

Very slow on the draw, retention is non-existent, doesn't keep the gun in the same place without constant readjustment, and doesn't cover the trigger.

If you feel so bothered by having to put on a holster and thread on a belt, and think that's too much effort to go through to possibly save your life - maybe you shouldn't be carrying a gun. You're a liability to society, not an asset.

Huh...that's seriously judgmentally harsh.

I've used a clip draw on my M60 with a bobbed hammer and boot grips for over ten years. Never my primary concealed carry piece, but it's always had it's place and when used it's worked well.

I'm appalled and appropriately chastised to discover I've been a liability to society.....I promise to try and do better.

Would you like to take on the social responsibility of good ankle holsters as well?

[Bawanna]

Now come on fellas.:confused: Lets not over react. :31: I seriously doubt a clip on your gun is gonna cause a blight on society. While some may like them, some may not. I've not used one myself but doubt it would fulfill my needs. For people casual carrying, where the gun may have to go on and off for different environments it might have merit. I know an attorney that carries his litte Smith with the clip set up. Don't make it right or wrong, just that I know somebody that does carry that way. We certainly don't need to poke each other with sticks over a clip carry method.
Breathing exercises, in with the good, out with the bad, in with the good, out with the bad. Dang, think I'm hypervenilating, hari krishna, hari krishna!!!:nerd:

[jeepster09]

I had one on my 380 Kal Tec and it was ok, but it at least screwed on to the gun. I don't think I would trust a glue on version on a bigger gun.:ohmy:

[jeep45238]

I had one on my 380 Kal Tec and it was ok, but it at least screwed on to the gun. I don't think I would trust a glue on version on a bigger gun.:ohmy:


Good luck drawing a gun when the grip is in line with the belt/waist line more or less... Glad to see I'm not the only non-trusting person.

Yes, I think it makes you a liability to society to NOT take carrying a firearm seriously, which is more or less dead nuts what the clip draw highlights. If you're not going to bother with a holster, I guarantee that you don't bother practicing the draw, operations of the gun, shooting at speed and balancing that speed with accuracy. I can say with damn near confidence that if you don't train with your gun, you're going to miss with almost every shot, if not every single one, when some bubba's trying to take your life - and one of those shots may take out a member of my family.

[ltxi]

Not take carrying a firearm seriously? You've got to be kidding.

My preferred daily carry form is a PM9 in MR IWB leather. But the clip draw on a J frame pulls the gun in tight against the body, keeps the gun stable and accessible, and pretty much makes it disappear. If you can tolerate the gun digging into your side it's an excellent minimalist, undercover solution.

You rant and rail well. I doubt however that there's much, if any, been there, done that behind it.

With apologies to everyone else....I'm done with this now.

[Popeye]

JMO ,but carrying a DA pistol with out any external safeties on a belt clip and not in some sort of holster that covers the trigger is asking for trouble. I think Plexico Burris would agree. Relying on trigger spring pressure as a safety makes no sense to me at all. That's just me though and if it works for you then go for it. Just make sure your medical insurance is paid up to date. One other thing to remember a holster helps keep your gun clean and free from dirt,water,sweat, pocket lint etc. if that's how you carry it. It's really hard for me to see anything on the plus side carrying a pistol on a belt clip.

[Pender1]

Good luck drawing a gun when the grip is in line with the belt/waist line more or less...
I can say with damn near confidence that if you don't train with your gun, you're going to miss with almost every shot, if not every single one...

Well I'll have you know that I do practice, a lot. I can practically drive a nail with every pistol I own. You obviously are a little too close minded to contribute to an intelligent conversation. There are a lot of people that use these clips and are every bit as good a shot as you, put in more range time as you, practice their draw more than you, and are more safety conscious than you. And by the way, the universal one is adjustable, I don't have my grip in line with my belt, it sits well above when I use the clip.

I'm with Itxi, I'm out of here.

[snatch]

The tape used to apply the grip clip is the same stuff they use on body moldings for automobiles.if its good enough to use on a car that is rained,snowed on,or experiences desert heat then I would feel pretty confident that your gun will not fall off of the clip,but the clip with the gun attatched may fall off of your pants.I can only think of a few good reasons to not use a holster. One,if you're carrying undercover and deep concealment is required. Two,you didn't have the extra 20 bucks to buy a real holster.or 3,you like the possibilty of shooting yourself in nutz.but before any of us go assuming things or flaming anyone we need to remember that the freedom to carry how you choose kinda goes along with the freedom to carry in the first place.none of us would like someone telling us how we should carry our gun,so we should show that same respect to others.if you feel confident and comfortable in your methods and you practice your draws and make sure your finger is off the trigger until after your draw then you should be alright.your opinion and confidence in your method is more important than joe schmoe on the street

[tv_racin_fan]

Ya gotta love the you aint a real man if ya don't use the same holster as me gig.

By the way I use a cheap $20ish holster myself but I have no qualms with a clip, I happen to think it requires a bit more care to carry responsibly with a clip. I am currently using an clip on IWB holster that I generally clip inside my pocket.

[jeep45238]

Ya gotta love the you aint a real man if ya don't use the same holster as me gig.

By the way I use a cheap $20ish holster myself but I have no qualms with a clip, I happen to think it requires a bit more care to carry responsibly with a clip. I am currently using an clip on IWB holster that I generally clip inside my pocket.


It has nothing to do with 'manliness' nor **** to do with the holster that I personally use.

It has everything to do with the inability to be serious about an instrument of death on your body when you blatantly don't care about covering the one and only switch to make it go boom, amongst other things I've already mentioned.

[wyntrout]

Well I'll have you know that I do practice, a lot. I can practically drive a nail with every pistol I own.

Dang! I can do that! I just prefer to use a hammer and not mar the finish on one of my babies!
Wynn:D

[jeepster09]

The tape used to apply the grip clip is the same stuff they use on body moldings for automobiles.if its good enough to use on a car that is rained,snowed on,or experiences desert heat then I would feel pretty confident that your gun will not fall off of the clip,but the clip with the gun attatched may fall off of your pants.I can only think of a few good reasons to not use a holster. One,if you're carrying undercover and deep concealment is required. Two,you didn't have the extra 20 bucks to buy a real holster.or 3,you like the possibilty of shooting yourself in nutz.but before any of us go assuming things or flaming anyone we need to remember that the freedom to carry how you choose kinda goes along with the freedom to carry in the first place.none of us would like someone telling us how we should carry our gun,so we should show that same respect to others.if you feel confident and comfortable in your methods and you practice your draws and make sure your finger is off the trigger until after your draw then you should be alright.your opinion and confidence in your method is more important than joe schmoe on the street


I have seen plenty of car body moldings fall off and flap in the wind.....

[quikduk]

Dang! I can do that! I just prefer to use a hammer and not mar the finish on one of my babies!
Wynn:D

HAHAHA...I was just going to say...

Wouldn't a hammer be cheaper and better suited to the job...:biggrin1:

I looked at these online as the ad comes in as a pop-up on some sites. I just didn't feel safe enough as both my EDC and BUG are striker fired and are in "Condition 1" (o.k., similar to C-1 as that reference is for 1911s...:rolleyes: ) with one in the pipe.

I guess the real issue for me was what if I had to make evasive moves prior to drawing. I wasn't confident enough that "it" would stay put...plus I have this thing for real nice quality leather wear and...oh...uh oh...another topic...sorry...;)

YMMV of course. BTW, I also practice...a lot. :33: