Anybody Tried 10rnd Promag for PM/CM9?

[Riccardo]

I recently found out that Promag (Pmag) sells 10 round magazines compatible with K9, P9 and PM9. Made of blue steel, I've been told it sticks out of the bottom of the grip more than 2 inches.

Has anybody tried one? I would love to see a picture of how ugly it looks. Any feed problems?

http://www.promagindustries.com/product-p/kar%2002.htm

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[SixPak]

Doesn't fit the PM9....

[RRP]

Doesn't fit the PM9....

Are you sure?

If this 8 round mag (http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/Kahr-8-Round-9mm-Magazine-K920.asp) fits all Kahr 9mm guns, why wouldn't the 10 rounder work?

[Popeye]

No. I never even thought about a ten round mag in a PM9. I conceal carry mine so a ten round mag kind of defeats the purpose of buying such a small framed pistol in the first place. If I feel the need for a ten round mag or better I'll go with one of the CZ or Glock 26. Doesn't happen often but if I go into Philly then the more 9mm brothers and sister I have on me the better.:D

[OldLincoln]

It sticks out a lot. Look at the holes and compare to your 6rd mag. Also hear of negative experiences a long time back, but they may have fixed whatever was wrong.

[Riccardo]

No. I never even thought about a ten round mag in a PM9. I conceal carry mine so a ten round mag kind of defeats the purpose of buying such a small framed pistol in the first place. If I feel the need for a ten round mag or better I'll go with one of the CZ or Glock 26. Doesn't happen often but if I go into Philly then the more 9mm brothers and sister I have on me the better.:D

Think about this Popeye....back up mag. Some of us do carry them because we realize the 6 round magazine that fits nicely into the grip of the PM9 is very limiting. I currently carry the 7 round magazine that the gun came with as back up but I think it would very wise and very safe to carry a magazine as large as possible as back up.

What if you were in an environment with multiple shooters. Imagine you expend your entire magazine in a hold up situation. The attacker is down but you have no idea if he has accomplices in the area. I would rather be reloading 10 than 6.

[Riccardo]

Doesn't fit the PM9....

As far as I know, all 9mm single stack Kahr mags are interchangeable. Do you have better information I'm unaware of?

[OldLincoln]

It's a bit of a crap shoot since the ProMag doesn't state it fits the PM9. You can see from the list below (from Kahr Site) some 9mm mags fit all but others don't:

MK620 (http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/Kahr-6-Round-9mm-Magazine.asp) 6 rounds, stainless steel with flush baseplate (Fits Kahr Covert, MK, PM & CM models) MK720 (http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/Kahr-7-Round-9mm-Magazine-W-Finger-Extension.asp) 7 rounds, stainless steel with grip extension (Fits Kahr Covert, MK, PM & CM models) K820 (http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/Kahr-7-Round-9mm-Magazine.asp) 7 rounds, stainless steel (Fits all Kahr 9mm models except T9 & TP9) K920G (http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/Kahr-8-Round-9mm-Magazine-with-Grip-Extension.asp) 8 rounds, stainless steel with grip extension (Fits all Kahr 9mm models except T9 & TP9) K920 (http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/Kahr-8-Round-9mm-Magazine.asp) 8 rounds, stainless steel (Fits all Kahr 9mm models)
I'd say if you want try it buy it.

[hardluk1]

I would like a 10 round mag to but promag is more than iffy. It could probably be tuned to work as a back up mag. I carry the 8 rounder for back up in both my cm and cw9.

[gb6491]

I have a ProMag 10rd. Kahr 9mm magazine. It locks into my CW9 just fine so there should be no issue with it locking into the CM/PM 9s. I bought mine used, so I don't know if the spring is OEM or not. It certainly is not strong enough (or the right size) for the 10rd magazine to function properly. However, the spring and ProMag follower do work fine in a Kahr 7rd. magazine. I never followed up on getting a better spring for the 10rd. magazine as I only bought it for the follower.
"Nose dive" stoppage with the ProMag;
JMoek0Yt6XI
For a size reference, here's a screen capture from the video (my little finger hangs about half way over the bottom of the CW9 grip):
http://i50.tinypic.com/jpht10.jpg
Regards,
Greg

[wyntrout]

I did a photo comparison of Kahr 9mm magazines. Here's an example of Kahr's longest 9mm mag with extended grip. I have a bunch of these for the range and use them as carry spares. Here are the PM9 and K9. I also have a P9 now with ported 4" barrel not pictured.

http://www.kahrtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2201&stc=1&d=1281383573

More pix here:

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=2944&highlight=K920G+springs

Wynn:)

[O'Dell]

Your luck may be better than mine, but I've had five or six ProMags over the years and only one worked. That one was for a SIG P225 and I credit the pistol and not the mag for the proper function.

[Short Bus]

I have a 7 and a 8 Round ProMag for the range, both function fine, but the springs aren't even close to being as strong as Kahr's springs.

[Alfonse]

Now this has me thinking. I have far too many weapons, like my PM9, that just aren't "scary" enough to worry even those in New York. So, maybe with a Promag magazine (I've had mixed luck with them over the years) with a Maguts modification, the capacity could be over 10 rounds! Possibly I could install a pistol grip on the bottom of the magazine, and have a "banworthy" PM9.

I don't think it has to be reliable, or even work, to concern the antis.

[Riccardo]

I have a ProMag 10rd. Kahr 9mm magazine. It locks into my CW9 just fine so there should be no issue with it locking into the CM/PM 9s. I bought mine used, so I don't know if the spring is OEM or not. It certainly is not strong enough (or the right size) for the 10rd magazine to function properly. However, the spring and ProMag follower do work fine in a Kahr 7rd. magazine. I never followed up on getting a better spring for the 10rd. magazine as I only bought it for the follower.
"Nose dive" stoppage with the ProMag;
JMoek0Yt6XI
For a size reference, here's a screen capture from the video (my little finger hangs about half way over the bottom of the CW9 grip):
http://i50.tinypic.com/jpht10.jpg
Regards,
Greg

thanks for the video Greg! Was that a jam? That magazine sure does look silly long. I didn't realize Promag was so iffy. I always thought of them as standard for AR's.

[PNine64]

thanks for the video Greg! Was that a jam? That magazine sure does look silly long. I didn't realize Promag was so iffy. I always thought of them as standard for AR's.

Are you thinking of PMAGs by Magpul? They are different than Promag. I bought a Promag for my G19 once...once. Rebuild it last spring but never did give it a try.

[muggsy]

Unless you're into drive by shootings, a standard 6 round mag with a six or seven round mag for back-up should be more than enough. If you can't hit 'em with 13 rounds throw the gun at 'em and run like hell. :)

[Riccardo]

Are you thinking of PMAGs by Magpul? They are different than Promag. I bought a Promag for my G19 once...once. Rebuild it last spring but never did give it a try.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Hope this bumps my thread back up and someone else has feedback on their usage of 10 round promags.

[KKing]

Are you thinking of PMAGs by Magpul? They are different than Promag. I bought a Promag for my G19 once...once. Rebuild it last spring but never did give it a try.

I was hoping you didnt think those two were one and the same when I read the original post, but then it came up again. You're right PMags by Magpul are pretty much the standard for AR's, Promag is a roll of the dice basically. You may get one that functions flawlessly (I've only heard of very few cases) and you may get one that nosedives every round. I have a Promag for my 9mm carbine that would nose dive like crazy when new and I finally got it to feed right, but only after much work in tuning the feed lips. If it came down to it, I suppose I'd buy again if the price was right, but only because I know there will be a little work involved and how to do it.

[Short Bus]

Unless you're into drive by shootings, a standard 6 round mag with a six or seven round mag for back-up should be more than enough. If you can't hit 'em with 13 rounds throw the gun at 'em and run like hell. :)
That sounds like a NY mindset, hitting them (even 6 or 7 times) doesn't always stop the threat. That's why I carry a 2nd mag.

[Riccardo]

I really wish Kahr would develop a high capacity single stack mag. They are important as back up mags. It's still something other double stacks, namely the Glock 26 have over the PM/CM9. Having a solid 9 or 10 round back up mag in the pocket would go a long way to leveling the playing field and giving security to those who like Kahrs but feel uncomfortable with 6 round mags

[jocko]

I think some of those Boston/NY cops needed some of the glock 33 round mags. Just sayin

[O'Dell]

I have fifteen pistols. A FS HK 40 has 14 round mags but it's too big to carry, and another compact HK 45 has eight rounders. Other than those two the rest are all seven or fewer. I don't mind a bit.

[muggsy]

I'm still holding out for the 50 round drum magazine. If ten round are good fifty rounds are five times better. Do the math. It ain't rocket science. :)

[SikhShooter]

I've been told that the promag actually feeds better than the Kahr factory mags (which we all know tend to nosedive the rounds---which in my opinion is the reason Kahr recommends that the first round be chambered using the slide stop)

[SikhShooter]

Although I do notice my mags from Kahr do tend to nosedive, I have not had issues with chambering my first round by way of racking the slide rather than using the slide stop as Kahr recommends

[GlockShok]

In my experiences Promag magazines usually don't work properly and tend to feel kind of cheap.

[money mike]

I've tried the Promag 10 rounder in my CM9, and the thing is totally unreliable. Every 2nd or 3rd shot is a misfeed. Comparing mag lips, they look fine, so I think the problem lies in the spring. I am going to try a stronger spring and if it reduces the capacity by 1 round so be it, if it improves function. I'll post back after I've tried it. Having said that, I'll repeat, Promag sucks.

[hitech]

Has anyone had issues with rounds falling out of the factory spare mag?

[johnh]

This is pretty common due to the high feed angle of the top round in Kahrs. I just make sure I push them back before putting the mags in my pocket.

[tjs721]

Has anyone had issues with rounds falling out of the factory spare mag?

I've never had that happen.


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[tjs721]

Magazines are more important than people realize. If you bought a Kahr you understand buying quality. If not you would have bought a hipoint. So don't skimp on your mags.


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