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Rotorflyr
01-27-2013, 12:40 PM
Again this is strictly hypothetical but let's just say you can't own a semi-auto "assault" style rifle for whatever the reason.
For shites and giggles, let's say that Wile E Coyote Super Genius invented a ray that made them all disappear (so please don't say you aren't giving up you AR/AK/SKS etc, that's not the point of this thread)

What would your rifle choice be (model and caliber) and why would you choose it?





:Amflag2: :80: :amflag:


PS. I've added a basic poll as well.

les strat
01-27-2013, 12:44 PM
A .50 cal Barrett :Amflag2:

chrish
01-27-2013, 12:48 PM
I'd go with a .357 lever action. Might do this anyway, have been having a bug lately to become a cowboy.

AJBert
01-27-2013, 01:47 PM
Why am I limited to one? Depends on the purspose for such rifle as to what I would choose.

ripley16
01-27-2013, 02:26 PM
I'd choose a bolt action because they load quickly, especially those that accept clips. Lever action is strong and reliable but much slower to reload. The others even slower still.

ltxi
01-27-2013, 02:41 PM
.30-.30 lever action....plus several in pistol calibers...38/357/44/44mag/45Colt for commonality with many of my handguns. Maybe a .22 as well, but I'd have to go buy one.

JustinN
01-27-2013, 02:41 PM
I too would want multiple guns, but it would depend on what I was needing it for. If you're talking about replacing a semi-auto firearm, I'd go with a lever or a pump, simply because I can fire one much much quicker than a bolt action...BUT a bolt is more accurate, and generally can get a bit more powerful with your rounds, don't have to worry about round nose, etc. There are more and more bolt guns now taking magazines, so you could get higher cap, quicker reloads on the bolt gun, but your shots would be a bit slower.

Caliber would also depend. If I had one gun to go survive in the wilderness with...I suppose it would depend where I was. For carrying ammo, getting food, etc a .22 would be pretty sweet. I could even use it on deer, etc. At the same time, I prefer bigger calibers for ease of killing bigger animals (but worthless against squirrel, birds, rabbits, etc as a food collector - IMO....there is more left from your .22 than a .243 would leave). .308 is popular and easier to get than other calibers, but if I'm going 30 cal, I'd rather stick with an '06. If smaller maybe a .243, 7mm-08, 25-06....too hard to pick just one. Maybe just one of everything and I could start leaving them behind as I found a reason not to have them......or not.

ltxi
01-27-2013, 02:50 PM
The levers are usually short, light, and easily carried. As is my scout rifle. So one of or a couple of those would be the primary gun(s).

Popeye
01-27-2013, 03:11 PM
Guess my SHTF/Assault rifle would then become my 1981 Marlin 30/30. I do have a fare supply of ammo for it.

O'Dell
01-27-2013, 03:20 PM
There's no category for none but that would be my answer. I might poke my eye out with a pointy stick.

I'm sure that DF would consider my 45 carbine an assault weapon even if it's only a ten shot semi. It looks sorta mean and that's her criteria.

jeepster09
01-27-2013, 03:22 PM
AR style 7615 pump action .223 like they use in Austrailia and used by Law Enforcement, very fast action that uses AR mags.

rhd04
01-27-2013, 03:38 PM
Probably my kimber 84m Montana. 5.2 lbs. out of the box.

josp
01-27-2013, 04:40 PM
Remington 7600 pump 30-06.

I'd love to have the one in 223 nowadays, but my "Pa Deer Machinegun" will work till I can find one

mr surveyor
01-27-2013, 05:01 PM
any limits on caliber or length of the pointy sticks?

GROTMAN
01-27-2013, 05:13 PM
I'd take this providing I could talk Justin into letting me have it ;)
http://imageshack.us/a/img541/426/savage1.jpg

Jeremiah/Az
01-27-2013, 05:53 PM
I voted lever action, of which I have .22, .357 mag, 30-30 & a .243. I have killed more big game with my model 760 Remington 30.06 tho which is a pump.

tv_racin_fan
01-27-2013, 06:14 PM
Lee-Enfield #4. Mad minute, 25 aimed rounds downrange in 60 seconds. And can I get the L42A1 version please?? Pretty please!

JustinN
01-27-2013, 09:16 PM
I'd take this providing I could talk Justin into letting me have it ;)
http://imageshack.us/a/img541/426/savage1.jpg

I'd probably still be too busy staring at the grain to give it up. I'm trying to figure out the best way to hang it for display in my home office, I like it that much :D

Bawanna
01-27-2013, 09:48 PM
We went to our semi local (bout an hour away) Sportsman Show today. Boats, campers, all kind of guide services, that kind of stuff, tons of fishing stuff of course.
Amongst all that darned if there wasn't a Savage rifle booth. Had several of the different models, the little youth one they came out with recently.
Nothing remotely close to what you got.

There was one, I think it was a 10 too, that did have cut checkering and pretty decent wood, no forend caps and not in the same league in the pretty department.

I think they're working hard at getting into the game as a major player again. I've always kind of leaned towards them but may kind of turn up their nose at them. Still about the most accurate out of the box rifle going.

wyntrout
01-27-2013, 11:39 PM
All of those BAD military features "assault" Senator Whinestein's eyes.

Wynn:D

muggsy
01-28-2013, 06:43 AM
Since I like to hit what I'm aiming at I'd have to go with a bolt action. I know, I know, someone is going to tell me that the 1903 Springfield was the assault weapon of it's day, but then so was the flint lock musket. Diane Feinstein is either incredibly stupid or incredibly evil and I'm fairly certain that she isn't evil. So what's a man to do? I think I'll stick to my guns.

JohnR
01-28-2013, 06:49 AM
I picked lever action so I'd have an excuse to get a Henry Big Boy.

jlottmc
01-28-2013, 07:51 AM
All of the above and many of each. Then again I may have been accused of liking guns.

JustinN
01-28-2013, 08:07 AM
We went to our semi local (bout an hour away) Sportsman Show today. Boats, campers, all kind of guide services, that kind of stuff, tons of fishing stuff of course.
Amongst all that darned if there wasn't a Savage rifle booth. Had several of the different models, the little youth one they came out with recently.
Nothing remotely close to what you got.

There was one, I think it was a 10 too, that did have cut checkering and pretty decent wood, no forend caps and not in the same league in the pretty department.

I think they're working hard at getting into the game as a major player again. I've always kind of leaned towards them but may kind of turn up their nose at them. Still about the most accurate out of the box rifle going.

Yeah, I picked up quickly there was a stigma against them, but Savage is the brand my Great Grandpa always used for hunting. I'm pleased with the purchase, especially in the wood. I think it's definitely the same stock that came on the 50th anniversary gun, but not the same metal (that gun is around $1200 or so O.o )

jlottmc
01-28-2013, 08:55 AM
I fell out of favor with them because of their first adjustable trigger. It was possible to make it too light and get a rifle to slam fire with little effort. I lost a good friend to that or so the official story goes. Knowing him and his circumstances better than the official story though, I know what happened.

Rotorflyr
01-28-2013, 11:24 AM
A .50 cal Barrett :Amflag2:

I knew someone was going to say that (just didn't expect it to be the first response) :p

Rotorflyr
01-28-2013, 11:26 AM
Why am I limited to one? Depends on the purspose for such rifle as to what I would choose.

While I realize that most (if not all) of us would have more then one it's because that was the question (and if you actually read it, its purpose is to replace an AR/AK style rifle, so it would depend on what YOU use one of those for), and if you're only refering to the poll, it was limited to one choice so as to not allow everyone to choose them all.

Barth
01-28-2013, 11:28 AM
http://www.shootingtimes.com/files/2010/09/stbigboy_111706inset.jpg

Rotorflyr
01-28-2013, 11:28 AM
There's no category for none but that would be my answer. I might poke my eye out with a pointy stick.

I'm sure that DF would consider my 45 carbine an assault weapon even if it's only a ten shot semi. It looks sorta mean and that's her criteria.

Nice (though I like the 1st Gen with the ATI stock better looks wise), but if your thinking you'd have it, you wouldn't as it's a semi-auto (pistol cal not witstanding) so I guess you'd stick to strictly hand guns which is fine but is irrelevant to the game.

Rotorflyr
01-28-2013, 11:30 AM
any limits on caliber or length of the pointy sticks?

Nope, as long as you can walk softly while carrying it :p

Bawanna
01-28-2013, 11:34 AM
Having played this theory in my mind recently I'd probably go with a bolt gun. I like my son's Ruger Scout in 308. I'd probably have the rail on it so I could mount a conventional scope as I'm not totally sold on the Long Eye Relief concept or at least the looks of it which is important.

Looking cool is just about everything.

Rotorflyr
01-28-2013, 11:41 AM
http://www.shootingtimes.com/files/2010/09/stbigboy_111706inset.jpg


...http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm152/NisseMaruu/homer_simpson_drool.jpg

Rotorflyr
01-28-2013, 11:43 AM
I'd probably have the rail on it so I could mount a conventional scope as I'm not totally sold on the Long Eye Relief concept or at least the looks of it which is important.

Looking cool is just about everything.


Aww come on Bawanna, we all know that no matter what You do You're gonna look cool!:yo:

Barth
01-28-2013, 11:45 AM
http://www.valdefierro.com/rifleman241.jpghttp://www.jdmfilmreviews.com/images/steve-mcqueen-wanted.jpg

Rotorflyr
01-28-2013, 11:47 AM
Chuck Connors Is The Rifleman!

(I almost bought one of those "mares legs" not long ago)

Bawanna
01-28-2013, 11:52 AM
I have a Mares leg and surprised myself when I chose bolt over it. It feels really neat in the hand but it's not conducive to aiming much without a buttstock. It's plenty accurate for behavior modification but in a worse case scenario, hunting etc it has it's limitations.

It does have the looking cool factor built in though big time. Mine is 45 Colt, one in 22 might be real handy too.

Rotorflyr
01-28-2013, 11:58 AM
I was mainly looking at the ML as a novelty item, which is one of the reasons I choose not to purchase it at the time (well that and cause I didn't really have novelty $$)

Bawanna
01-28-2013, 12:04 PM
If Hitler the 2nd has his way they may all be novelties.

rjt123
01-28-2013, 01:19 PM
any limits on caliber or length of the pointy sticks?

Guys, guys, guys!!!

We have GOT to use the correct terminology if we expect the media to get it right.

The correct term is "Assault Stick". </rant>

:D

Bawanna
01-28-2013, 01:25 PM
Guys, guys, guys!!!

We have GOT to use the correct terminology if we expect the media to get it right.

The correct term is "Assault Stick". </rant>

D)

Only if it's black, has a pistol grip or a bayonet lug.

rjt123
01-28-2013, 01:36 PM
Only if it's black, has a pistol grip or a bayonet lug.

Hmmmm...isn't a bayonet lug on a pointy stick (arrrrggg!! "Assault Stick", dangit)

Where was I? Oh yeah...isn't a bayonet lug on an "Assault Stick" kind of redundantly redundant?

Maybe an "Assault Stick" should have a rifle lug? Only seems fair.

Tinman507
01-28-2013, 02:09 PM
http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o542/tinman507/assaultstick_zps9cd68cb7.jpg

rjt123
01-28-2013, 02:11 PM
Dude, that's one seriously big toothpick!

rjt123
01-28-2013, 02:24 PM
I can't hep myself...

Texas Toothpick!!!

:D

AJBert
01-28-2013, 05:50 PM
http://www.shootingtimes.com/files/2010/09/stbigboy_111706inset.jpg


I picked lever action so I'd have an excuse to get a Henry Big Boy.
As it just so happens, with the wife being out of town and state, I finally had a chance to "functionally" test my Big Boy today that I picked up earlier this month.

Happy to say all is good with the Henry! Now I need to get it on a bench and make sure the sights are where they should be. From the test today it sure seems like they are right on. Just don't really trust myself and my eyes these days shooting off hand.

And, really, a .44mag doesn't have much kick at all! At least in a rather heavy lever action.

O'Dell
01-28-2013, 08:04 PM
Nice (though I like the 1st Gen with the ATI stock better looks wise), but if your thinking you'd have it, you wouldn't as it's a semi-auto (pistol cal not witstanding) so I guess you'd stick to strictly hand guns which is fine but is irrelevant to the game.

I had two 1st gen 9mm carbines that ran perfectly for over a year. I put an ATI stock on one of them and immediately started having a few malfunctions. The other continued to be 100%. I replaced the ATI stock with the original and the problems ceased. I sold one and threw the ATI into the deal. The other one was stolen two years ago and replaced with the 2nd gen 45.

Armybrat
01-28-2013, 08:04 PM
All of these, including the .45-70 Trapdoor - it's got a bayonet for the pointy stick part... :D


http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/P3030934.jpg

JFootin
01-28-2013, 08:26 PM
Having played this theory in my mind recently I'd probably go with a bolt gun. I like my son's Ruger Scout in 308. I'd probably have the rail on it so I could mount a conventional scope as I'm not totally sold on the Long Eye Relief concept or at least the looks of it which is important.

Looking cool is just about everything.

Oh, no. That rail and scope will turn it into a forbidden "Assault Weapon!" :blushing:

Planedude
01-28-2013, 08:58 PM
I'd have to stay with my Swedish Mauser in 6.5 X 55...

Built in 1898. Shoots straighter than I can and has survived every attemp at gun banning so far...
...With a bayonet.

Ken_K
01-28-2013, 09:52 PM
Lever action all the way!

jlottmc
01-29-2013, 07:51 AM
By fineswine's definition, my Enfield 2A (ironic isn't it?) would be an assault weapon. It has a separate and distinct pistol grip, a 12 round detachable magazine, and a bayonet lug. To hell with these idiots.