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melissa5
02-02-2013, 06:13 PM
I almost bought a Saiga 12, but decided to buy this instead and save a ton of money. I'm going to put a Knoxx recoil reducing adjustable stock on it. I fired one round through it with the pistol grip. That hurt! :86:
I really liked the idea of a magazine fed shotgun, but the extra money to convert it to 922r compliance was a no-go.
Mossberg 500
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2452/dscn2713q.jpg
Bawanna
02-02-2013, 06:15 PM
Is that a 500 or a 590? I'd put a stock on it. I like the stock with a pistol grip but on the Mossberg with the safety on the tang, (Where it belongs) the pistol grip isn't really convenient.
I have a couple Mossbergs and they are great shotguns.
melissa5
02-02-2013, 06:18 PM
It has 500 stamped on it. The safety is on top...not down by the trigger. I think I prefer it on top like that.
Bawanna
02-02-2013, 06:20 PM
Yeah I think the 590 had ghost ring sights on it. Somebody put a metal heat shield on that one that resembles the 590.
Both great guns and basically the same.
melissa5
02-02-2013, 06:23 PM
It's a new gun and came with the heat shield. It has a bead sight on it. It looks like it means business. :D
muggsy
02-02-2013, 06:25 PM
Those 12's can be a handful and then some, Melissa5. Becareful with it.
melissa5
02-02-2013, 06:26 PM
Always, muggsy.
les strat
02-04-2013, 04:01 PM
I have that same shotgun for my truck gun. I also have the tactical persuader that has the AR-type stock. They are great guns, and I have never had one malfunction with a Mossy in 30 years.
Melissa, if I may suggest an upgrade, replacing the plastic safety with a metal one is an easy and worthwhile upgrade as the plastic ones have been known to break. I ordered mine from Brownells. It's tricky backing out the one-way screw, but if you go to do it, make sure the shotgun is standing vertical on the buttstock, bear down with a flat screwdriver and it and the bearing and plate will come out easily without dropping down in the receiver.
AIRret
02-04-2013, 04:29 PM
Melissa, hubby and I have Mossberg 500 with the bead site. His is a 12 mine is a 20, because of back surgery. He has a phoenix ted adjustable, and recoil reducing stock.
We both like it, I just can't shoot more than a couple rounds out of the 12 without my back giving a lot of trouble. However, I can shoot the 20 all day without a problem. We picked up 200 rounds for $40 and had a lot of fun last weekend.
Shooting 3 gun comp. is what I dream about but probably would be too much for the old body.
Les I like your idea about upgrading the safety. I'm sorry to say that we had not thought
of that.
Chuck54
02-04-2013, 05:00 PM
Have any of you checked out the 510 mini? I think it looks good in 20ga but have not seen one in the flesh.
jeepster09
02-04-2013, 05:28 PM
I just picked up a 510 mini. Nice truck gun or home defense. Mine is 20 guage. Only draw back in my opinion is that it only holds 3 rounds plus one in the chamber for 4 total. The plus is that it very light and compact.
Melissa, you may want to consider a Butler Creek folding stock so you have both pistol grip or full stock. Picture is 500 model.
melissa5
02-04-2013, 05:59 PM
Nice Jeepster!
I already ordered a Knoxx adjustable stock. I really need a short stock.
Bawanna
02-04-2013, 06:38 PM
Nice Jeepster!
I already ordered a Knoxx adjustable stock. I really need a short stock.
I looked at a similar stock at Cabela's a couple weeks ago but the Knoxx looks better. Don't recall what brand I saw at Cabela's.
Did you order the set that comes with a forend also. Do let me know how you like it. I have a couple 500's and I think one might get this set up.
I know the safety on the tang is a downfall with a pistol grip but not a deal breaker.
I see Botach has them in stock for 110 bucks but I really don't care for those guys although they apparently have improved. One of the guys ordered an AR top end and it actually got shipped and he got it in less than a week.
I make it a practice to have someone call the day after I place an order to make sure they got the order, have the item and know to send it. Bad experiences in the past.
AJBert
02-04-2013, 06:56 PM
Congrats, Melissa, on a great shotgun! One of the two best for the purpose of your intentions. The other, of course, being the...
hide your eyes, Colonel!!!
Remington 870. I'm just a bit more partial to the 870 but have absolutely no qualms about the 500.
melissa5
02-04-2013, 07:20 PM
Bawanna, I found my Knoxx at palmettostatearmory.com for $96. :) (http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/blackhawk-specops-gen-2-adj-stock-k07200-c.html) I don't think it comes with the foregrip. Botach is on my list along with cheaper than dirt.
AJBert, I've got a 20 gauge 870 that I really like.
Alfonse
02-04-2013, 08:05 PM
A friend of mine picked up one of those and I shot it with him a week ago. I was surprised how accurate I could be on attacking boxes that were 20 feet away basically shooting it from above the hip.
It let you know when you shot 2 3/4 rounds, but the 3 inch rounds were painful.
Far more fun that I expected.
Bawanna
02-04-2013, 08:24 PM
Congrats, Melissa, on a great shotgun! One of the two best for the purpose of your intentions. The other, of course, being the...
hide your eyes, Colonel!!!
Remington 870. I'm just a bit more partial to the 870 but have absolutely no qualms about the 500.
I'm ok with a Remington 870. It's a tough durable shotgun. My preference just leans the other way. I prefer the controls on the Mossberg.
Planedude
02-04-2013, 09:28 PM
I'm a Fan of the Remingtons... But 10k+ of trap and skeet rounds wasted in the last decade, with 99% shot though a pair of Remington 1100 B grades might have swayed me just a bit.
Melissa, If you want more than the bead front sight, XS Sight Systems has a big dot Trijicon that epoxies over the existing front bead sight. Easy on and a great sight picture.
Have fun, shotgunning is a blast.
AJBert
02-04-2013, 11:00 PM
Just a bit curious here, but why would one need any kind of sight on a HD shotgun? Odds are if you need it there will not be a lot of light. Accuracy is really not needed shooting out of an 18.5" barrel with a wide open choke.
Even when I'm bird hunting I never "aim".
Melissa, I'd suggest you pattern your new 500 at about 20 feet. Use the bead to aim at your choice of target. If you are satisfied with the spread (my 870 has a spread of about 1 1/2' - 2' at that range) then practice shooting from the hip, regardless of if you keep the pistol grip or getting a stock with a pistol grip.
First thing you'll notice is you will be shooting low. Very easy to correct with just a few rounds. Once you know how to "point" the muzzle you won't need any kind of sights. This will work in broad day light or middle of the night.
And, as always, make sure you identify your target before pulling the trigger.
Not trying to sound condecending in the least, I promise. I just don't think enough folks have truly practiced shooting from the hip and truly believe that any kind of sights on a HD shotgun are sold much the same as that flashy fishing lure to a fisherman.
zamboni
02-05-2013, 12:01 AM
You will love the knoxx stock. I got mine so hopefully the fiance would/could feel comfortable grabbing the shotgun over her little .380 if something happened when I wasn't home. She shot it last week for the first time. She was scared as heck the first time she pulled the trigger. After that I couldn't get her to put it down. She also said her shoulder wasn't sore at all the next day. Oh, btw, my knoxx said nothing about a forend in the listing, but was included in the package, so you may get one as well.
white08gt
02-05-2013, 04:09 PM
better follow what Muggsy and Alfonso suggested. stick with light loads or you might get hit in the face. buy a anti-rattle kit or they will hear you coming. my experience with mossbergs, don't own any anymore.
getsome
02-05-2013, 04:26 PM
Ahhhh yes, you just can't beat a good 12 gauge shotgun....Best tool I have ever used for home renovation!!!!....:rolleyes:
melissa5
02-05-2013, 05:00 PM
better follow what Muggsy and Alfonso suggested. stick with light loads or you might get hit in the face. buy a anti-rattle kit or they will hear you coming. my experience with mossbergs, don't own any anymore.
Hit in the face? So, I shouldn't shoot the 00 buck that I ordered? :D
MW surveyor
02-05-2013, 05:10 PM
Hit in the face? So, I shouldn't shoot the 00 buck that I ordered? :D
You're a hard woman melissa. You can do it! Just don't try to shoot it like a pistol. LOL.
Bawanna
02-05-2013, 05:13 PM
I think that Knoxx stock will soak up most of the recoil. Your tougher than the average cyber bride though so I know you can take it with a smile on your face and a song in your heart. An evil smile and song but none the less.
I'm gonna wait for your report to get my own Knoxx. I fell off the wagon and just ordered another blade. I'm a dead man when I get home.
Glock23
02-05-2013, 05:19 PM
Congrats, Melissa, on a great shotgun! One of the two best for the purpose of your intentions. The other, of course, being the...
hide your eyes, Colonel!!!
Remington 870. I'm just a bit more partial to the 870 but have absolutely no qualms about the 500.
My deer gun is the 870. Rifled slug barrel with fiber optic rifle sights, and I added the Knoxx telescoping recoil absorbing stock to tame it just a bit. Might not be the best HD shotgun, but it reached out to 80yds for the last doe I shot.
Regardless of the gun, I wholeheartedly recommend the Knoxx stocks.
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melissa5
02-05-2013, 05:53 PM
I think that Knoxx stock will soak up most of the recoil. Your tougher than the average cyber bride though so I know you can take it with a smile on your face and a song in your heart. An evil smile and song but none the less.
I'm gonna wait for your report to get my own Knoxx. I fell off the wagon and just ordered another blade. I'm a dead man when I get home.
LOL I can always count on you to say sweet nothings to me. ;)
I've got a Knoxx stock on my 20 gauge Rem 870 and think it's totally worth it. Some reviewers did not like the Knoxx stock, but I read not pull it back into your shoulder so tight that it defeats the recoil reducing springs that are in the stock. Just let the springs do what they were made to do.
Planedude
02-05-2013, 06:00 PM
Hit in the face? So, I shouldn't shoot the 00 buck that I ordered? :D
Back a few years, when the wife decided trap and skeet looked like too much fun to just watch, I learned about women and shotshells.
When I took her out to buy a shotgun we pulled everything off the shelf for her to try. In the end, I shot Remington autos so she picked a 1187 premire with beautiful wood. When it came time to try shooting it I was worried even though my wife did not seem to be. I did not want her to have some horrible first time that would sour her to shooting trap.
So I found these Ultra light 12gage shells with 7/8th oz of #8 shot and off to the club we went. On the trap field, I went through my training drill for new shooters, but my wife had watched for long enough to have the ideal already. So we lined up with a couple of buddies and sarted calling "PULL". I kept a close eye on the wife but she was not hitting very many targets and the new gun did not like ejecting those whimp load shells. When the round was done, the wife had only hit 9 out of 25. When she asked my score it was a distracted 21.
Even she knew it was the shells and she told me to get her some of the same that I always shot. So up to the clubhouse I went and bought four boxes of 1 1/8th oz Winchester AA trap loads. I told her these shells would kick alot more and she, very sweetly, told me to "shut my pie hole and give her the shells".
could'nt argue that...
We started the next round and on her first bird she "ink-blotted it". She looked at me and said "now thats more like it!" Then she proceeded to kill 18 out of 25 and then 19 of 25 on the second box. Later I caught her bragging to the other ladies and showing off the shoulder bruise.
To this day she shoots 1 1/8th oz AA's whenever we shoot trap and a high veolcity 1oz load for skeet.
I asked her about her thoughts later and she just srugged and said "girls just want to have fun... and smoking the bird is fun".
NEVER underestimate women and recoil. ;)
Bawanna
02-05-2013, 06:09 PM
I think I love your wife. Wait, that's a sin or is iy thou shalt not covet thy wifes shotgun?
Maybe she'd like to be a cyber bride. Melissa can vouch for me and my sweet nothings.
addictedhealer
02-05-2013, 07:55 PM
Gotta love a 12gauge. My gtg (go to gun) when shtf or somebody comes a knocking.
Planedude, sounds like I'd get along with your wife just fine!
I FINALLY got to shoot skeet for the first time last night. Borrowed a girlfriend's Browning Citori O/U 12 gauge and we had a GREAT time. The only shotgun I've ever shot was hubby's Saiga 12 with the 20 round drum, but he has a dampener on it so the recoil really isn't that bad. This left a nice bruise. Yes, I'm also bragging about my "battle scars".
I did OK, certainly not 18 or 19 out of 25, but I had a fun time.
I also shot her Browning Hunter 20 gauge and another friend's Benelli 12. Think I did best with the Benelli, but I'm still shopping. Want to try a Beretta.
Mr. Obama, I see your shotgun pic, and I raise you mine:
http://imageshack.us/a/img24/6237/skeet.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/6048/skeet2.jpg
I think I love your wife. Wait, that's a sin or is iy thou shalt not covet thy wifes shotgun?
Maybe she'd like to be a cyber bride. Melissa can vouch for me and my sweet nothings.
gettin a little jealous over here
Bawanna
02-07-2013, 11:22 AM
gettin a little jealous over here
Now, now, darling, you know there's plenty of me to go around. No need for the jealous thing.
You take good care of that bruised shoulder, took me a minute to realize it was a mirror shot, thought you were left handed there for a minute.
Hugs and kisses.
bawanna
it's not a mirror. I'm so left eye dominant that I gotta shoot shotguns and rifles as a lefty.
I shot a few rounds and "posed" as a righty cause the lighting made it so that we had to take a pic from the right side.
JustinN
02-07-2013, 02:07 PM
This isn't good.....you guys are making me think about getting another Benelli....and I would be needing to move into the shed with bawanna and his knife buying if I drop that much on a shotgun right now....
Bawanna
02-07-2013, 02:21 PM
it's not a mirror. I'm so left eye dominant that I gotta shoot shotguns and rifles as a lefty.
I shot a few rounds and "posed" as a righty cause the lighting made it so that we had to take a pic from the right side.
OH my!:confused: Is there an operation to cure this malady. I don't think I've ever had a left handed cyber bride before. That's ok I love you as your are.
Justin, I got another blade in the mail. Dog house time for me. I'll post some pics when I'm near the camera. It's a pretty one.
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