New Kahr CW40

[07Dually]

After purchasing a new Kahr CW40, I cleaned and lubed it as has always been my procedure with a new gun. During the bench function check, it would not eject a loaded round. While searching the internet I found this forum and the fix for the ejection problem along with a ton of interesting information...thank you!

So far I have put 100 rounds of various brands of jacketed ammo thru the gun without the slightest problem. I really like the way the Kahr feels in my hand...that is coming from a Glock 27.

I have added a couple of new gunbelts and an IWB holster to the collection that I will post in another thread.

Thank you again for the wealth of information on this forum as well as the interesting cast of characters that are here!

Charlie

[jocko]

welcome aboard.and yes we have some real dickweeds on this forum. ifu ever eaqnt to tame that cw 40 down somewhat. Have it magna ported and u won't regret it.:amflag:

[Alfonse]

Believe it or not, that's a heartfelt welcome around here!

[downtownv]

Dually,
I'm impressed already!
A you found us AND read the Newbie section 1st
and
B You had the greatest Kahr expert respond to you as the very first post!
Welcome from the jersey Shore and Lord have mercy on you.....
Now go put a cupola hundred $ into that pig you drive!

[O'Dell]

Welcome. That's not too unusual in a small pistol like a Kahr. Space is tight in there. Even if it has trouble with a loaded cartridge, the empty's will still eject.

[07Dually]

Thanks guys, I think I just might like it around here.

jocko, thank you for the welcome...I am honored! I have read and enjoyed lots of your posts...they help me with my spelling and grammer! :) See there, I misspelled grammar again!!!

I've had a magna ported S&W 45 revolver, a Rem 1150 and a couple of compensated IPSC guns before and the ports sure make a big difference in muzzle flip. I don't find the CW40 to be too snappy and I'm getting too cheap to spend the money. Plus I think the less visible mods on a carry gun the better.

downtownv, it just proves that sometimes it pays to read the manual!
Actually, the pig is gone but it still makes a good username.

O'Dell, I just filed down the corner of the barrel hood until the loaded rounds would eject. It didn't take much filing and now it throws them across the room.

Charlie

[jocko]

grammer??? WTF does that mean... nice job on the corner of the barrelhood, if there wqas a burr there even, that is due to ejections hitting that pointed tip and most hav eto file and smooth it down. Not alot of room in these small kahrs, so it certainly needs a fast slide retraction to get a love round out of the gun,

After a few more hundred rounds the recoil sprig will take its designed set and the slide retraction thing willbe uch easier also and hand racking willbe a breeze. I never owned a 40 kahr as in poly kahrs that isjust one heh of a hand coannon. Just sayin.
There is no honor needed in my welcoming you but if u feel that way a nice check for $25 would make me feel better Just sayin

I am not a judge so no honor needed, BUT I am Italian and a kiss of the ring would be in order.:Amflag2:

[07Dually]

jocko,

The check is in the mail!

[voodoo54]

After purchasing a new Kahr CW40, I cleaned and lubed it as has always been my procedure with a new gun. During the bench function check, it would not eject a loaded round.

What's a "bench function check"? Is that different than a regular function check?

[07Dually]

What's a "bench function check"? Is that different than a regular function check?

It is probably the same or very similar.
When I disassemble a weapon for any reason, the last step is to inspect all parts for any defects and lube as necessary and reassemble.
After reassembly, I check all functions short of actually firing the weapon. Some people may call this a "function check" but I call it a "bench check" because it is done at my workbench immediately after whatever maintenance has been done.

[voodoo54]

It is probably the same or very similar.
When I disassemble a weapon for any reason, the last step is to inspect all parts for any defects and lube as necessary and reassemble.
After reassembly, I check all functions short of actually firing the weapon. Some people may call this a "function check" but I call it a "bench check" because it is done at my workbench immediately after whatever maintenance has been done.

Sounds good. A functions check is a functions check. In case of a pistol it should be making sure the slide moves back and forth properly and when you squeeze the trigger the firing pin engages. Being the resident "cant stand goofy made up terms" guy on this forum, I like it when people use correct terms. Like the notorious "failure to go to battery" term which is just really a round which won't chamber, which is a failure to feed issue. Remember words matter. Anyway have fun with the cw40. I enjoy mine tremendously.

[07Dually]

I agree, it is a function check.

Charlie

[adamog133]

Welcome aboard sir.

Congrats on your new baby. Is this your first Kahr?


btw, have you had any ftfeed issues or ft return to battery at all?
Just curious. My pm45 is fine with 100 rounds into it out of the box after taming down the limp wrist action, but my p380 is a fighter, Cannot get it to return to battery with snap caps, fmj and even a few hollow points, granted it only has 100 virgin rounds in it so far.

Jocko has provided a plethora of info on it for us. Thanks dude. You are the man.

:)

[07Dually]

Thank you for the welcome.

Yes, this is my first Kahr but it will not be my last. I ordered a CW45 today. I really do like 45's.

I have had absolutely no problems with the CW40 except the failure to eject a live round. I found the fix on this forum. I am waiting for the rain to stop so I can fire the second one hundred rounds and I expect that it will be uneventful.

Charlie:Amflag2:
NRA Patron Life Member

[jocko]

Sounds good. A functions check is a functions check. In case of a pistol it should be making sure the slide moves back and forth properly and when you squeeze the trigger the firing pin engages. Being the resident "cant stand goofy made up terms" guy on this forum, I like it when people use correct terms. Like the notorious "failure to go to battery" term which is just really a round which won't chamber, which is a failure to feed issue. Remember words matter. Anyway have fun with the cw40. I enjoy mine tremendously.

but most here really do understand what a poster is saying to. FTRB sometimes is not associated wth a round but sometimes we have seen a weak recoil spring is the culprit and just not enough ump to complete bring the slide to battery. It might feed perfectly but if the gun is a atadout of battery u will get NUTTIN. FTf tomost here eans it jams the round somewhere. But we normally understand what the postert is saying . Words do matter yes, but I try not to correct a person for a slight error either, as if I am in doubt, I just re-askthe poster what he means. I might be off here to but IMO FTRB and FTF in my lingo are two different things happening:Amflag2: No argument onmy part here either, just my opinion...

[hardluk1]

07Dually Congrates on a nice new shooter. What was the ammo use that gave trouble during finction check . I have my first 40cal kahr and need to watch for this too. Shooting a 165gr fmj and GD now.

[adamog133]

My apologies if I have used improper terms. I have not associated myself with firearms in over 30 years. I recently reintroduced myself and my wife to them. I may be a little stale. I will try to describe what is happening with my p380 and hopefully you can provide some insight.

After loading a full magazine with 95 grain fmj cartridges, I either drop the slide stop lever or slingshot the slide to load the chamber hot. After the 1st shot, the slide will not go to battery. I then noticed that the casing is resting in front of the ejector and not against the breech face. After a tap on the slide I am in battery and can shoot another round. Every time I fire a round this happens. I do not know if this is a need to break the gun in with 200 rounds, an ejector issue, a spring issue or something else. I would appreciate any thoughts.

[jocko]

not in behind the extractor is what u mean. I am just gnna guess hereto. U did not say how many rounds have beenthrough the gun. Ucould at least maybe be limping the gun enouhg to let the gun absorb some of the recoil and the slide not fully retracting enoght to pick up that rund behind the extractor, or the recoils springs are just to strong yet to allow the slide to operate like it should. What u could also try is to buy a box of defense +P 380 amm and just try one magazine to see if that helps any. That more powerful rond will workthe slide and springs faster.

anutter thing I would try also is if u know agood shooter let him try the gun,ugotta startsomewhereto eliminate thepossbilities of the issues i the gun.

How about mayb evengvnthe feedramp and chambe a nice polishing with some fine 600+ grip paper. can't hurt nuttin.

[adamog133]

yes the cartridge is not seating behind the extractor. It is sitting in front of the extractor. Yes I could be limping the gun. Yes I will let another shooter give it a go.
I will try the +p ammo if I can find it.
I have polished the feed ramp with flitz. IS that good enough? How much of the chamber is acceptable to polish? I only have 100 total rounds in the gun. I have not completed the break in period yet. I did follow the sticky on prepping the gun as well.

Another issue: At home using snap caps in a new magazine, if I rack the slide (by way of manually racking) to chamber the snap cap, the slide will not fully go into battery. It will go into battery if I slingshot the slide or drop the slide stop lever though.

Thank you for your advise.

[07Dually]

The ammo was Remington 180 gr JHP from WalMart.

Charlie :Amflag2:
NRA Patron Life Member

[jocko]

yes the cartridge is not seating behind the extractor. It is sitting in front of the extractor. Yes I could be limping the gun. Yes I will let another shooter give it a go.
I will try the +p ammo if I can find it.
I have polished the feed ramp with flitz. IS that good enough? How much of the chamber is acceptable to polish? I only have 100 total rounds in the gun. I have not completed the break in period yet. I did follow the sticky on prepping the gun as well.

Another issue: At home using snap caps in a new magazine, if I rack the slide (by way of manually racking) to chamber the snap cap, the slide will not fully go into battery. It will go into battery if I slingshot the slide or drop the slide stop lever though.

Thank you for your advise.

ur ride the slide into battery it probably will not feed,but if u slingshot it properly or use the slide stop whcih kahr does recommend untilo one canslingshot correctly andit does it both ways, then IMO ur ok in that area. Polish the chamer where the casing sets.

glad u didn't ge tupset with thelimping suggestion. most people take offense, I merely amtrying to let u know it is a possability that at least u need to eliminate and letting anutter decentshooter try it mioght help one way or the other to answer that question. It just sounds to me that the slide is not going back far enough for the rond in the magazine to pop up behnd the extractor, which could mean more round sto break in, maybe a hotter round to see if that helps any.


Also I am not saying that nuttn is wrong either, but if u go through the process of elimination and all fails then maybe it is time to talk to the kahr people and state ur case. Another shooter should be ableto help eliminate some of those possables. Just sayin

[adamog133]

will do after break in period is done and post results.
:)

[JFootin]

adamog133, there could be something out of spec with the gun; the extractor and or the barrel position when in lockup. Send a polite email to Kahr CS, ask for Jay, and explain the situation. Don't tell him that you are willing to keep feeding it more breakin ammo. Let him tell you his thoughts. He may concur with members here that more breakin rounds fired and working on a firmer grip will help. Or, he may send you a prepaid label to ship it back for some massaging by a gunsmith on Kahr's dime. I have a Taurus TCP 380 that had some problems during breakin. I called Taurus CS and talked with a very friendly and helpful young lady. She sent the FedEx man to my door the next day to pick it up. Exactly 2 weeks later, I was signing for it at my door. Fixed it! They found the mag lips out of spec (too tight, causing misfeeds) and the extractor out of spec (sound familiar?). They adjusted both. Also, it had a bad or broken trigger bar that they replaced. It is now working fine! :)

[adamog133]

will do JFootin. Thanks for the heads up.