View Full Version : Frog lube on a PM9
340pd
02-14-2013, 08:47 AM
I finally got tired of the odors of most of the gun lubes I am using. Ya they work but some of them stink.
Bought some frog lube. Does anybody use this stuff is an easy search question, but how do you use it is another thing.
After eliminating all the old oil, and the frame and slide are heated up, do you coat the entire workings of the pistol with the paste and let it dry and then try to wipe off what you can? Some places will always have a light coating because you will never get into all the nooks and cranny's. Will that cause issue with residue? After that, is it best to use the liquid as an additional lubricant, or am I done?
Thoughts?
ParrotHead
02-14-2013, 08:56 AM
I'd like to know from those that use it as well. I want to give it a try..have heard nothing but good things. From what I understand it actually seasons the metal parts and resists residue from sticking to it. Cleanup is not much
more than a wipe off after firing.
ParrotHead
02-14-2013, 10:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqQ_GEC6EKE&feature=player_embedded#!
340pd
02-14-2013, 01:50 PM
I've seen the video. I just finished doing a XDM and Kimber Ultra CDP II. Let's see how they turn out. I'm going with the heat up, brush on, let sit, wipe off, lube rails with the liquid and "shoot it like you stole it theory"
Flincher
02-14-2013, 04:09 PM
over on the S&W forum there are extensive threads regarding Frog Lube
KahrOnTheFly
02-15-2013, 12:18 PM
Hi 340pd,
I am big time user of FL... and believe me when I say that I have tried almost all of the lubes on the planet. Most worked just fine, but as you have mentioned... the smell and mess of oils/greases is what finally led me to FL. The stuff smells like wintergreen and I like it (NOTE: I only smell the stuff when applying it,... not after it has "cured" onto the gun)
OK, on to the application question. Like PH said, check out YouTube for extensive videos on the initial application process. I did the full clean/degrease task on the first treatment ONLY. FL does say that this step is not totally necessary, as the FL will eventually displace the oils/greases. But I wanted to ensure FL had bare metal to adhere to from the first treatment.
The heat process is important... I just used heating pad and hair dryer to heat the metal. I then apply the paste to the large contact points with a tooth brush, applying a THIN layer (do not glob it on). And yes, some of the FL will seep into the cracks / crevices of your trigger mech, firing pin channel, etc. I have never had an issue with the product getting into these areas... although, I do my best to avoid excess amounts getting into the firing pin channel. And yes, you do let the gun/FL cool to room temp before wiping excess and buffing.
The "seasoning" process is 2-3 heat/apply stages over a few range sessions. Once I was done with the third heat/apply seasoning, I felt that my gun was good to go (FL says you only need to do it twice). Now, I just wipe (cotton patches and Q-Tips) my frame and slide down with a rag and a small amount of FL... the carbon, etc. comes off amazingly easy. As for the barrel / feed ramp, I still do a scrub and reapply of the FL... it is amazing how most of the time the fouling just wipes off. If I feel that it is really fouled, I may heat the barrel and clean/reapply (probably not necessary, but I am meticulous like that).
In final, I know that the initial prep stages (seasoning) is a PIA. But in my opinion, it is well worth it. I had a few pistols that were very fickle (FTE/FTF) with oils/greases, but since I have moved them over to FL they have been running flawlessly so far.
I hope this helps! I am a believer in FL.
SickMAK90
02-15-2013, 12:20 PM
I have been using it on my cm9, and glocks with good results. The wife is glad I quit using hoppes #9 lol.
Hi 340pd,
I am big time user of FL... and believe me when I say that I have tried almost all of the lubes on the planet. Most worked just fine, but as you have mentioned... the smell and mess of oils/greases is what finally led me to FL. The stuff smells like wintergreen and I like it (NOTE: I only smell the stuff when applying it,... not after it has "cured" onto the gun)
OK, on to the application question. Like PH said, check out YouTube for extensive videos on the initial application process. I did the full clean/degrease task on the first treatment ONLY. FL does say that this step is not totally necessary, as the FL will eventually displace the oils/greases. But I wanted to ensure FL had bare metal to adhere to from the first treatment.
The heat process is important... I just used heating pad and hair dryer to heat the metal. I then apply the paste to the large contact points with a tooth brush, applying a THIN layer (do not glob it on). And yes, some of the FL will seep into the cracks / crevices of your trigger mech, firing pin channel, etc. I have never had an issue with the product getting into these areas... although, I do my best to avoid excess amounts getting into the firing pin channel. And yes, you do let the gun/FL cool to room temp before wiping excess and buffing.
The "seasoning" process is 2-3 heat/apply stages over a few range sessions. Once I was done with the third heat/apply seasoning, I felt that my gun was good to go (FL says you only need to do it twice). Now, I just wipe (cotton patches and Q-Tips) my frame and slide down with a rag and a small amount of FL... the carbon, etc. comes off amazingly easy. As for the barrel / feed ramp, I still do a scrub and reapply of the FL... it is amazing how most of the time the fouling just wipes off. If I feel that it is really fouled, I may heat the barrel and clean/reapply (probably not necessary, but I am meticulous like that).
In final, I know that the initial prep stages (seasoning) is a PIA. But in my opinion, it is well worth it. I had a few pistols that were very fickle (FTE/FTF) with oils/greases, but since I have moved them over to FL they have been running flawlessly so far.
I hope this helps! I am a believer in FL.
Ive been hearing about this stuff a lot lately, so I ordered some. Haven't got it yet, but whatdo you use to degrease the gun initially?
SickMAK90
02-16-2013, 10:15 PM
Ive been hearing about this stuff a lot lately, so I ordered some. Haven't got it yet, but whatdo you use to degrease the gun initially?
I sprayed my down with non chlorinated brake cleaner.
A FL rep actually broke down where I work and gave me some to try. I love the stuff.
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