Opinions on good OWB and IWB for CW9... [Archive]

JFootin

02-26-2013, 10:20 AM

The best holster I have found for forget-it-is-there comfort 24/7 with my CM9 is the PJ IWB Holster (http://pjholster.com/?page_id=37). There are so, so many members here that will concur. Paul is a great guy and a real gun lover, and he performs magic with kydex - making the holster incredibly comfortable to where you can't tell it is there whether sitting, standing or moving about. It is like the mass of the gun disappears, becoming one with your body. I carry mine with a 15° cant just behind my hip - the sweet spot. I prefer the linked one with the over the belt clip. It is available with j-hook, c-hook and velcro attachment method, and tuckable is an option. I have a tuckable one with velcro for if I need total concealment, but normally wear the above under a loose shirt.

laserfish

02-26-2013, 11:33 AM

I wear the deep concealment by Frontline. It can be worn in or out of the wb and is very tuckable. Use it with my T9 daily. Only has the leather belt loops and some would say that is a negative, however, I have never had anyone even ask me about the two leather loops on my belt. I am sure there are other good ones out there, but I got lucky the first time. I cannot imagine anything else being more comfortable as I seldom even notice I have it on.

Short Bus

02-26-2013, 03:58 PM

Foxx Trapp

http://foxxholsters.onlybusiness.com/onlinecatalog/Kydex__Trapp__Holster-list.aspx

chrish

02-26-2013, 05:09 PM

As usual, I have to chime in and suggest Remora.

southsound

02-26-2013, 05:56 PM

I can't speak to the OWB holsters because I either pocket carry my CM9 in an Uncle Mikes holster or carry IWB at about 1:00 with a t-shirt to cover. I considered a PJ holster since the reviews are so good but I really wanted leather. I bought a Galco and was unhappy because it hung up on the slide release. Then I saw a leather Kusiak holster on another forum. The quality looked good and they listed one for the PM9 so I took the plunge. I placed the order on Tuesday and received the holster on the next Monday. The quality is outstanding - what I would expect from a much more expensive custom holster. Pepe Kusiak makes the holsters himself and guarantees satisfaction. Price is just $35 or $45 with a built-in mag holder. Here is a link to their site: Kusiak Leather (http://www.kusiakleather.com/) Pictures follow.

http://soundlearning.com/Pictures/K1.JPG

http://soundlearning.com/Pictures/K2.JPG

http://soundlearning.com/Pictures/K3.JPG

http://soundlearning.com/Pictures/K4.JPG

broham25

02-26-2013, 08:39 PM

I like the Mitch Rosen, but DAMN it is EXPENSIVE! The Remora line looks great too, but I don't see one made for the CW9. The PJ looks great for IWB. I really appreciate the replies everybody! I'm still trying to decide. I'm on an E-3 budget. lol

chrish

02-26-2013, 10:12 PM

the remora you want is the one for the 3.5" barrel. The 3c. But you might consider the 3b for 3" barrels. I have a 3c and I personally think my p9 (same as your cw) rides too deep. Personal preference thing. My tp9 rides perfect in the 3c. At some point I will be getting a 3b for my p9 if I start carrying it more again.

Scoundrel

02-26-2013, 10:45 PM

I like the BlackHawk CQC Holster. At least that's what I think it's called. I'm having trouble finding it online. I bought it in a sporting goods store in Idaho.

On the back, it is stamped with:
CQC HOLSTERS
BLACKHAWK.COM
Size 23
Kahr K9/K40

They didn't have anything that said CM9 on it, and this was nearly a perfect fit. I trimmed the bottom just a hair so the leather did not stick out past the muzzle.
It's super easy to attach/detach without unbuckling my belt, and it's very comfortable. It rides fairly high with a good angle. The retention snap is easy to undo with my thumb when drawing. The retention strap is adjustable.

My only complaint is that when not wearing an over shirt, it's fairly obvious - but then, it's an OWB so whattaya want?

broham25

03-01-2013, 09:18 PM

chrish

03-01-2013, 10:36 PM

I ordered a Remora, and I got a 3b and a 3c. My brother-in-law has a cw9 as well and he said he would take whichever one I didn't want. I got each one for $20 with a mil discount, so I didn't mind buying both to give them a try anyways. Thanks for introducing me to Remora chrish. I must've watched 15 youtube videos in row. lol

Cool. Hope you like it. If you don't, feel free to call me nasty names.

Funny about the videos, I did too. I assume you saw the ones of people doing cartwheels and standing on their heads. Should be handy if you ever have to stand on your head before you shoot someone in self defense :rolleyes:

I'd be curious how the CW size fits in the 3B. I'm thinking I'm gonna order one at some point for my P9 (if I keep the P9), but picts would be helpful if you get the chance.

broham25

03-02-2013, 09:35 AM

Yeah, those videos were funny. It was nice to see that even doing cartwheels, the holster didn't move though. I will def post some pics when I get them in.

chrish

03-02-2013, 10:18 AM

Yeah, those videos were funny. It was nice to see that even doing cartwheels, the holster didn't move though. I will def post some pics when I get them in.

Hey, just noticed your pict. If that's you, thanks for your service!

broham25

03-02-2013, 10:42 AM

It is and thank you!

DeaconKC

03-02-2013, 11:15 AM

The Desantis Viper is very comfortable.

mp95b

03-21-2013, 11:55 PM

For IWB in kydex, check out www.cooksholsters.com (http://www.cooksholsters.com). Great holsters, priced right, fast turn-around.:)

DeaconKC

03-22-2013, 02:35 PM

Something else to consider is make sure you have a GOOD belt. It doesn't have to come from a holster maker, but get something good and strong. It will make a huge difference in the comfort.

kahrseye

03-22-2013, 03:22 PM

I use a Bianchi thumb break holster and I love it. Recently I was introduced to a company called Braids Holsters. You can look them up on youtube.com and ebay.com. They look well made for about $35. My son bought one and loves it.

7shot

03-22-2013, 03:35 PM

I use a DeSantis OWB holster for my K9, been working great so far.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j352/kwood_58/df39283a96ee6a0be599ceff0f5766ec_zpsbf50feb6.jpg

Raulf

03-22-2013, 04:41 PM

I have a Mitch Rosen IWB for sale, it is for the CM9 with Crimson Trace Laser, don't have the laser anymore, retail for $65.00 + S/H, sale price $45.00. Like new condition, see pictures.:D:Amflag2:

wagon

03-22-2013, 11:08 PM

Cry once and stop all the buy/sell cycles.. Kahr being so thin, I only IWB:

AIWB = Mitch Rosen CLP... best in class (and cheap at $60 new / $40 used)
IWB = Milt Sparks VM2 - horsehide

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X30wmUWjcIs/UU0p9FB7A_I/AAAAAAAABXM/IMQDE8mHcD4/s800/P1030563.JPG

sasage

03-23-2013, 08:49 AM

IWB = Foxx Trapp from http://www.foxxholsters.com/

GOG

03-23-2013, 09:48 AM

I just bought a CW45 and am thinking of picking up the Mitch Rosen IWB holster that is on the Kahr Arms website. It has a clip rather than belt loops and I'm not sure if it will stay put.

I have a Remora that I'm using at the moment, but I prefer a leather holster as the Remora shifts on me. Have you folks been happy with the Rosen IWB holsters?

wagon

03-23-2013, 07:00 PM

GOG, - I have bought a total of 4 Rosen CLP for various subcompacts, I have had various other holsters and it is the BEST straight drop holster to me. The steel clip used by Mitch Rosen is the stiffest that I have seen. Many leather holsters are made with THICK leather that they appear can last generations, but higher end rigs are all made with thinner leather to reduce bulk, Mitch Rosen is one of those use thinner leather. Btw, the mouth is reinforced with a steel plate for easy reholstering, same approach found in Milt Sparks holsters.

If you use a proper gun belt and is properly tighten, no holster should shift, clip or loop.... unless you wear your pants the way prisoners do... that drops and expose half of your underwear. One other exception is those holster that use a single clip that is offset to one side, they do shift ------ ask me how I know :-)

Cannot comment on Remora as I only use it for pocket carry.

Customer service is great too, the CLP that I bought new (from Dillon) came with an unusual softer steel clip, I told them after years of use, they took it back and replaced the clip with the typical uber strong clip in 1 week, free, of course.

All I am saying is , if you want a straight drop leather IWB holster, you should look no further. I have several posts on CLP , Clipper, do a search for more pix.

I just bought a CW45 and am thinking of picking up the Mitch Rosen IWB holster that is on the Kahr Arms website. It has a clip rather than belt loops and I'm not sure if it will stay put.

I have a Remora that I'm using at the moment, but I prefer a leather holster as the Remora shifts on me. Have you folks been happy with the Rosen IWB holsters?

GOG

03-23-2013, 09:38 PM

wagon

03-23-2013, 10:16 PM

Thank you Wagon. I always carried a Commander size 1911 in a Milt Sparks Summer Special and the MR clip model seems close with the exception of the clip rather than loops.

I'll order one next week based on your experience and recommendation.

Beware that MS are all canted and ride higher for fast draw. On contrary, CLP sits low and is zero cants! To me it is perfect deep concealment, at the cost of speed of draw. My compacts are either in Milt Sparks or Alessi or Ritchie, I do want those weapons to ride higher and canted for faster draw.

Make sure that you know the different, they are designed for different purpose in mind. I use CLP for my subcompacts, compacts like CW size I go with VM2, Watch6 or COM3 from HBE etc...,

GOG

03-23-2013, 10:37 PM

Hmm... More food for thought. I prefer a slight forward cant and full grip for speed of draw.

Of course, like most of us I have a drawer of "good idea at the time" holsters. :o

JFootin

03-24-2013, 10:25 AM

Welcome to the club, GOG! I have found that I enjoy holsters almost as much as I do guns. And I have found some of the nicest people in the holster business. I don't care for a lot of the really big, impersonal holster makers because they have yielded to the temptation to simplify their inventory by trying to make one holster model (sort of) fit many different guns. This is a compromise that I will not tolerate, so I prefer to deal with makers who do holsters to order to fit the specific gun and the specific customer's preferences. This often requires patience to wait weeks for order fulfillment, but it is worth it.

I also like some cant on any holster that I wear behind my hip. For small pistols, I have come to prefer AIWB carry because of the easy access whether sitting or standing. The gun needs to be short enough that the muzzle won't jam against the leg when seated. Any of the subcompact semis such as the CM9 or any of the little 380s, and the J-frame snubby revolvers work well there.

GOG

03-24-2013, 10:38 AM

Yes, I know what you mean JF.

Depending on what I'm carrying, I carry anywhere from 2 to 3 o'clock, generally at about just before the point of my hip to 3 o'clock. I have arthritis and a forward canted holster is easier for me to draw from. I have trouble drawing from a 4 or 5 o'clock position due to lack of mobility. The forward cant helps because it's also difficult to draw straight up.

The Mitch Rosen, even though a straight draw may work because the CW45 is a fairly small pistol.

I dunno, at this point I'm going to do some more research before I buy a holster. The Remora isn't that great, but it will do until I can get what I really want.

I like a forward cant, belt loops rather than a clip and leather rather than Kydex. I'm finding that there aren't a lot of choices for the CW 45 out there.

I'll take any suggestions anyone may have.

eireguy

03-24-2013, 10:56 AM

This company makes good holsters.i have 1 for my cw9,friends have ordered from them for the xd series.they dont show cw45 but do have cw9 & 40.idk if a 45 will fit a 40 holster or not but they can tell you.they can custom make also.http://stores.clamentcustomleather.com/-strse-Concealment-Holsters/Categories.bok

GOG

03-24-2013, 11:09 AM

Thanks, I'll check them out.

eireguy

03-24-2013, 11:11 AM

no problem .hope they can help you

wagon

03-25-2013, 08:18 AM

Depending on what I'm carrying, I carry anywhere from 2 to 3 o'clock, generally at about just before the point of my hip to 3 o'clock. I have arthritis and a forward canted holster is easier for me to draw from. I have trouble drawing from a 4 or 5 o'clock position due to lack of mobility. The forward cant helps because it's also difficult to draw straight up.

The Mitch Rosen, even though a straight draw may work because the CW45 is a fairly small pistol. .

GOG: to me, I cannot AIWB (1-2 oclock) a compact like CW, no problem with subcompacts like CM / PM / G26 etc... I also find that "straight drop" / zero cant works better for AIWB, as the draw angle will be natural. I would need 2 holsters, one ofr AIWB and a different one (with cant) for 3~4 oclock position.

But everyone's built and size are different, so what works for me may not work for you... and vice versa.

I like Mitch Rosen CLP so much that I have it for almost every subcompacts I own, but it is low riding that may not fit what you need. Sounded like a higher riding zero cant might work for you.. give Eric a call, he can custom built his rigs to meet your need, e.g degree of cant, etc.. Take a loook at his 'PRO" model.. it can be clip or loop. (I would not get too excited about the "Pro-TL" as I did find it shifts.. and it is not a good fit foe 2 oclock position). I have 2 rigs from him, I find his work top-notch: http://www.hbeleatherworks.com/

wagon

03-25-2013, 08:30 AM

One otehr option is Alessi Talon-Plus, it is higher riding that CLP and it does have a slight cant, I did have one for my CW. (see pix below, 2nd from the right). They use a patented "talon" clip which is , by design, to grab on the pant and not the belt, it actually goes BEHIND the belt. I find the clip functions PERFECTLY as designed. The only reason I sold it was I went with a Milt Sparks VM2 instead.

Give Tom in Alessi a call, he may have one already made for CW45, if not, I think their leadtime is 2 weeks.. may be.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hwxx2u5faZs/T4CkkbthN-I/AAAAAAAAAyA/tZjWf2k_EHU/s800/ride+heights.JPG

willwork4guns

03-25-2013, 10:25 AM

OWB is from lobogunleather.com/

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh517/jnichols17/IMG_0581.jpg

IWB I went with www.whitehatholsters.com/ because of the replaceable kydex shell.

ParrotHead

03-25-2013, 12:55 PM

Remora for me...no belt required and I can move it where ever I want and it stays put.

Steve0

03-29-2013, 08:49 PM

From my experience, you won't be as comfortable with a 1 clip holster as you will with any 2 clip holster. Its pretty obvious if you think about it. The two clips distribute the weight of the gun better. My personal favorite is the Hidden Hybrid Holster for my CW9. It can be worn IWB or OWB. I don't have a pic but heres a video. I would have paid twice as much for this thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-T5knss8G8

JoeyG

03-29-2013, 09:19 PM

If you are on a budget, check out crossbreed seconds. You can pick up a CBST for half price and they are like new. If you want leather, maybe check out UBG. He makes one called the Regulator that is similar to Rosen's Premier only cheaper price. Also, Nate, the owner of UBG is retired military. He does great work and is cheaper than some of the higher end leather experts.

http://www.ubgholsters.com/owb.htm

govtwtchdog

12-18-2013, 08:21 PM

I concur with SteveO. I purchased a Hidden Hybrid Holster after reading several reviews and am nothing but ecstatic about the purchase. It's an amazing IWB with a soft leather paddle for against the body while a nice Kydex holster and good metal c-clips for around your belt. It also has cut-outs in the leather paddle for wearing OWB for range shooting, etc. I purchased mine in July of this year and have really only recently begun wearing it IWB due to the weather (I normally carry my CM9 in the warm months) as it's getting cold around Nebraska this time of year.

I will be making a youtube video review on this holster after this winter when I've worn it a while. My hope is that you consider this holster since it acts as both IWB and OWB for a great price (uner $65).