Glock Grip Plugs

[wyntrout]

I just got in a partial order for my new Glocks from Botach Tactical. I ordered two grip plugs and plugged them in! I first wondered what the heck with the ramp thingy to the front, but found that it aids in magazine insertion.:D

Now both Glocks have the extended magazine release, but still waiting on the extended slide release for the G19. The four Korean CTI-GL17 mags didn't arrive, either, but I'm not short on magazines.

The plugs were $3.95 each and shipping was free.

Wynn:)

[RRP]

Thanks for posting this information, Wyn. I considered buying these plugs, but never pulled the trigger. You've rekindled my interest. Same for the extended mag release. I'd love to see a close-up photo of that, if you have the time.

[getsome]

That looks good Wyn, Wish somebody would come out with something like that for our Kahr's....That hole in the grip just bothers me for some reason, almost like something is missing...

[Jules Winnfield]

I had the Pearce ones but took them off and threw em' away. I figured ole' Gaston Glock knows a whole lot more about guns than I do and if they were of any benefit he would have built them in. Besides I'm not aware of any military or PD that uses them.


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[RRP]

I had the Pearce ones but took them off and threw em' away. I figured ole' Gaston Glock knows a whole lot more about guns than I do and if they were of any benefit he would have built them in. Besides I'm not aware of any military or PD that uses them.


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I can understand that, Jules. I, too, prefer to leave well enough alone. But I see an advantage to reloads, with this plug in place. And I can't think of any detriment caused by the plug.

If you have identified any disadvantages in the use of the plug, I'd like to hear about it.

Thanks,

[Jules Winnfield]

I can understand that, Jules. I, too, prefer to leave well enough alone. But I see an advantage to reloads, with this plug in place. And I can't think of any detriment caused by the plug.

If you have identified any disadvantages in the use of the plug, I'd like to hear about it.

Thanks,

I had heard it was designed that way to allow for any loose debris from the guns internals to work their way out. Seems plausible to me.


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[Bawanna]

We had plugs in all our Glock 21's prior to sending them all to Robar for grip texture and many for grip reduction. The theory of the plug assisting in reloads is sound but I put painters tape on a dozen guns on range days when they were training or practicing etc and usually the tape was pristine and unmarked upon their return so while it certainly don't hurt, I don't think they are a huge help either.

I too felt it was a good drain for crude that might get in there from above but never experienced any in all the guns I looked over.

A little Acra Glas with the black dye mixed in is a good way to plug the little void on our Kahrs which are off course a much much smaller void than Glocks.

I closed mine up a little bit with the wood burner when I textured my PM45. Still a tiny hole but hardly noticeable.

[JustinN]

I've always heard the hole is there to attach the pistol to a lanyard, as they like to do over in the Europe. Over here, they do much.

Now, I have heard the argument against the plug, saying if a mag ever got stuck (???? I don't see how ???) you don't have that area to get a thumb against the mag to help pull it out. I used a plug in my 21, but mine was flush fit (didn't stick out).

[jeepster09]

I always have installed them....for nothing else they look better. Gun kinda looks unfinished with out plug and the plugs don't break the bank.

[Longitude Zero]

JustinN you are correct about the lanyard issue. The thought they are acting as a drainhole is bunk.

[Barth]

I always have installed them....for nothing else they look better. Gun kinda looks unfinished with out plug and the plugs don't break the bank.

+1.
It's just aesthetics to me.
But I still have a Pearce in my G27 and like it.

[jocko]

We had plugs in all our Glock 21's prior to sending them all to Robar for grip texture and many for grip reduction. The theory of the plug assisting in reloads is sound but I put painters tape on a dozen guns on range days when they were training or practicing etc and usually the tape was pristine and unmarked upon their return so while it certainly don't hurt, I don't think they are a huge help either.

I too felt it was a good drain for crude that might get in there from above but never experienced any in all the guns I looked over.

A little Acra Glas with the black dye mixed in is a good way to plug the little void on our Kahrs which are off course a much much smaller void than Glocks.

I closed mine up a little bit with the wood burner when I textured my PM45. Still a tiny hole but hardly noticeable.

open area is perfect for one Trojan.(size XL) Just sayin. Always be prepared, if u can't shoot um then fokk um. works for me.:Amflag2:

I do have the plug in my G19 and it looks like it belongs there but it can be used the same as for a kahr. Just sayin

[getsome]

Better make sure you got room for a Viagra in there too....Shame to disappoint um with a defective gun....Just sayin...:p

[wyntrout]

I was ready to complain about the "ramp" but after inserting a magazine a few times, I could see that it helps... one less direction for the magazine to go the wrong way when you're excited and in a hurry to stuff something somewhere!

I thought about sticking an extra round in there, but with 13 or 15, depending on the model and what reload I had, it would be more trouble to remove the thing in a hurry. There are several shoulder stocks and carbine/rifle stock thingies that use that space and the hole, too. We're talking SBR, though and the $200 tax stamp... BEFORE you have possession of the both parts... the pistol and the stock.

Wynn:D

[Ljutic]

I have the plugs in about half my Glocks. Just too absent minded to order them for the rest. It certainly doesn't hurt and may help with reloads, but I'm not sure until I can get video proof of that.

[ParabellumJ]

I put a glockmeister plug in my 19, it seems to "finish" the pistol. My understanding of the hole in the grip was to aid in removing a jammed magazine, not for any debris drain. Personally I think it does more cosmetically than it does to aid reloads.

[wyntrout]

There are some plugs without the ramp... kind of what I was thinking about, but this does serve a function and you can use it to get the magazine inserted more easily just by indexing on it.

Wynn:)

[HighLander51]

Plugs do help for mag changes, but they are also useful to store an extra trigger reset spring and extractor in behind the plug. The real reason for the open back strap is to attach a lanyard.

[reswob]

I've always heard the hole is there to attach the pistol to a lanyard, as they like to do over in the Europe. Over here, they do much.

Now, I have heard the argument against the plug, saying if a mag ever got stuck (???? I don't see how ???) you don't have that area to get a thumb against the mag to help pull it out. I used a plug in my 21, but mine was flush fit (didn't stick out).

All the big names in handgun training advocate ways to remove these elusive 'stuck magazines'. Many go so far as to cut large holes on either side of the grip to have access to pull out such magazines.

I have never experienced, seen someone, or heard about someone getting a magazine stuck in a handgun, and I have a hard time thinking up how that would ever happen. But, what do I know, I don't have my own youtube channel on firearm tactics!:rolleyes:

[JFootin]

All the big names in handgun training advocate ways to remove these elusive 'stuck magazines'. Many go so far as to cut large holes on either side of the grip to have access to pull out such magazines.:rolleyes:

Does this mean jocko is a big name in handgun training? :D

http://www.kahrtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=153&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1317133410

[melissa5]

I don't use the plugs just in case I have to rip out a mag that is stuck.

[les strat]

Got my G19 butt plugged. It feels better if that part of the grip ever comes in contact with my side. And it just looks better. I use the Pearce, and it does not protrude at all.

As far as a drain for crud, actually, more crud (lint, deodorant???? LOL, whatever) gets in there though the hole than from above.

[wyntrout]

Just got my MDJ holster in for my Glocks this morning Ordered it Monday and got it today, Friday!. I took a few pictures of that and the extended mag catch that someone wanted to see... and the extended slide release.

Wynn:)

[Bawanna]

All the big names in handgun training advocate ways to remove these elusive 'stuck magazines'. Many go so far as to cut large holes on either side of the grip to have access to pull out such magazines.

I have never experienced, seen someone, or heard about someone getting a magazine stuck in a handgun, and I have a hard time thinking up how that would ever happen. But, what do I know, I don't have my own youtube channel on firearm tactics!:rolleyes:

Only time I ever experienced a stuck mag was when I neglected to do the cut out for the mag release button on some grips. Totally spaced out.

Brought them into work, they were for an officer, put a mag in and oh crap.

Haven't missed the little cut out since so maybe that was a learning experience?

[Bawanna]

You got that slide lock lever in place right Wyn. It don't look right. It's very easy to miss the hole and be between the spring and the lever and might even feel right.

Better double check that to be sure.

[K.C.]

I went down to my LGS a couple years ago and talked to one of the certified Glock armorers who were there for the Glock days sale event. He confirmed that the hole is indeed there for the drainage of any debris that would get in the way of the functioning of the gun, as well as being able to stick your thumb in for better grip if you dropped your mag and inserted it with some debris that caused it to stick.

He had a Glock that had portions of the plastic removed so you could see the internal functioning. When he pulled the trigger you could see that one of the metal portions connected to the trigger pull in the rear in fact moved downward. Theory is that if sand/mud what ever entered that portion the down ward movement would push the debris into the opening and not hang up the gun.

He said that he uses a Glock plug. Bottom line I think is, the opening is there for rugged combat situations where you may indeed crawl around on the ground and get debris in there. At the end of the day, most of us would just draw from a clean debris free holster so do what you want.

[wyntrout]

The slide lock lever works fine and I made sure that the pin went through it. Was that a "Made you look" attempt?

Wynn:D

[Bawanna]

The void is also large enough you could store a bushel of corn debri in there and still have room for a bottle of tupperware polish.

Pop the plug once in awhile and blow it out and I can't envision any problems.

[Jules Winnfield]

I went down to my LGS a couple years ago and talked to one of the certified Glock armorers who were there for the Glock days sale event. He confirmed that the hole is indeed there for the drainage of any debris that would get in the way of the functioning of the gun, as well as being able to stick your thumb in for better grip if you dropped your mag and inserted it with some debris that caused it to stick.

He had a Glock that had portions of the plastic removed so you could see the internal functioning. When he pulled the trigger you could see that one of the metal portions connected to the trigger pull in the rear in fact moved downward. Theory is that if sand/mud what ever entered that portion the down ward movement would push the debris into the opening and not hang up the gun.

He said that he uses a Glock plug. Bottom line I think is, the opening is there for rugged combat situations where you may indeed crawl around on the ground and get debris in there. At the end of the day, most of us would just draw from a clean debris free holster so do what you want.

Thanks K.C. for coming to my rescue on this issue! I've been taking quite the battering from some posters on this topic.


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[Jules Winnfield]

Got my G19 butt plugged. It feels better if that part of the grip ever comes in contact with my side. And it just looks better. I use the Pearce, and it does not protrude at all.

As far as a drain for crud, actually, more crud (lint, deodorant???? LOL, whatever) gets in there though the hole than from above.

Hey les, are you sure u don't want to edit that first sentence? For a minute I thought I was on a different kind of forum:)


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[jocko]

OK I guess if u were iside of a grain silo and shoveling grains all over halls hafl acre, then it might get some sh!t in that area, but I have never ever readof this being any issue or realy happening. these guys that bury their guns in mud and crapola are trying to prive a point, but in reality when does that ever happen. I would suspect that cavity is their by design, for lightness but also to fillt he grip area even more for ones hand and very little thought ever given to it as a place for debree to fall out. Almost like kahrs blow out plate on the right side of polymer guns. They may tellu it is there so thatif u have a kaboom that plate will more than likely blow,and it will bue truth be know, that opening on the polymer frames had tobe ther erto ghet the internals in the frame, so a plate/cover had to be made. It certainlny IMO was never designed fromt he git go to be a blow out plate. Noramaly if u blow out that plate, u stand a goodchance of the entire frame being damaged to. But what ever it is, is to.

Glock would have been folish or kahr to to make thgat cavity solid, which they could have easily done but weight would have been added and certainly not needed..

[Bawanna]

The slide lock lever works fine and I made sure that the pin went through it. Was that a "Made you look" attempt?

Wynn:D

Negative. I just took one apart, officer turn in. Has the same extended slide lock I installed on all our duty guns. It lines up better on the little raised area on the frame.

If it works properly your good to go, nothing to worry about. Just looked like it was a tad too far back in the little recess.

But I did make you look so I guess I should get extra credit points for that anyhow?

[wyntrout]

I didn't have to go look. I just photgraphed those and the pistol DID get a good workout... 257 rounds and used 9 of my mags at least twice each. That was one of the first things I did when I got home with the pistol was to go online and see how to swap that and the mag catch. The mag catch is just like the Kahr's but easier to replace. On Wifey's G19 I remembered to sand the corners a bit BEFORE installing the extended catch in the pistol. The extended slide release and my 4 Korean G17 mags were backordered with Botach. It's not like I'm low on magazines, but for $15 each, the 17-rounders will be nice for the range... just short of 3 full mags, though, per box of ammo!

Wynn:)

[les strat]

Hey les, are you sure u don't want to edit that first sentence? For a minute I thought I was on a different kind of forum:)




:D That's what they're known as in these parts!

[wyntrout]

I tried the new MDJ holster and my cheapie... depending on what you pay for it... Bladetech holster with my G23... just too large and prints too much with my shorts and Tees or Polos! And I'm sure that any kind of mag holder on my belt won't help CC, either!

BUT... that's why I have a stable of Kahrs to choose from!

Wynn:)