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Ram48
03-01-2013, 11:16 AM
have a cw 45 and enjoy shooting it, only problem, if it even is one, My POI is about 1.5 inches to the left of my POA good groups and the vertical is great. I have four other pistols that I own and pretty much shoot them in the POI in the POA more consistently. this is at about 20 to 25 ft. The CW is a SD EDC gun only so is this something I even need to worry about? I cannot see being able to justify a shoot at much further then that as being self defense in most cases. I am wondering if I should even mess with the rear site to bring POI in closer to center. Thoughts from you experienced CW 45 guys and gals would be appreciated.
ParrotHead
03-01-2013, 11:58 AM
Is this a newer CW45 in the sense that it is a first one with such a long trigger pull? The long trigger takes some getting used to..
Ram48
03-01-2013, 12:01 PM
Yes it is.
It feels like it is measured in feet, if I can't get used to it that may be the one thing that sours me on this gun for EDC I like the rest of the platform a lot is there a fix for that ?
Ol'coot
03-01-2013, 12:05 PM
Normal issue until you acclimated to the long trigger pull
jocko
03-01-2013, 12:12 PM
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have a cw 45 and enjoy shooting it, only problem, if it even is one, My POI is about 1.5 inches to the left of my POA good groups and the vertical is great. I have four other pistols that I own and pretty much shoot them in the POI in the POA more consistently. this is at about 20 to 25 ft. The CW is a SD EDC gun only so is this something I even need to worry about? I cannot see being able to justify a shoot at much further then that as being self defense in most cases. I am wondering if I should even mess with the rear site to bring POI in closer to center. Thoughts from you experienced CW 45 guys and gals would be appreciated.
most here are saying to. More rounds is needed to get ued to kahrs loooong trigger system. That beng said if u are consistent left, then ust move the rear sight a tad and u shouldbe good to go. Using POA imo AND UR GROUPS ARE SUCH, imo THEN THEY ARE EXCELLENT, for more than likelyt ur not really focusing on that rear sight anyways No doubt moving that rear sight will move ur groups to, but in a SHTF situation ur not gonna see that rear sight. I can tell you I moved my rear sight on my PMJ9 somany times that I just had to look at it andit new it had tomove automatically. I finally realized it was not he gun and it was me,s I accept my groups. I feel very confident at 10 yards with it, no 2" groups mindya but again, I don't realy care either.
IMO I think ur doing great but YMMV.
HighLander51
03-01-2013, 01:04 PM
Without seeing your stance, grip and sight picture it would be hard to tell. If you are right handed, your left foot should be slightly forward like a boxer. Your grip should look like my pic, and focus on the front sight. Start by shooting one hole groups at 5 feet, then move out to 25 feet. Lastly see what it looks light at 40 yards. This also assumes you are not left eye dominant.
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Salty
03-01-2013, 01:19 PM
Are you shooting the same POI with all your ammo and bullet weights ? What weight bullet are you shooting ? Full power, power plus or reduced loads ? All of the above will effect your accuracy.
jocko
03-01-2013, 01:20 PM
Good point.
MW surveyor
03-01-2013, 04:43 PM
You'll get used to the trigger and the groups will move to the right. Hey, right now 1.5" to the left is less than 1 minute of bad guy. What'cha worried about? :)
Ram48
03-01-2013, 08:48 PM
Are you shooting the same POI with all your ammo and bullet weights ? What weight bullet are you shooting ? Full power, power plus or reduced loads ? All of the above will effect your accuracy.
I shot Federal 230 gr RN and it was a bit better. The SD ammo was 1.5 off and it is federal premium LE HST 230 gr +P JHP. I shot the best groups with my own mid range reloads 230gr plated RN.
HighLander51
03-01-2013, 08:57 PM
Are you shooting the same POI with all your ammo and bullet weights ? What weight bullet are you shooting ? Full power, power plus or reduced loads ? All of the above will effect your accuracy.
Yes, a heavier bullet will shoot higher, and a faster light load will shoot lower. But it will not go left or right, that is mostly from grip.
muggsy
03-05-2013, 07:04 AM
If you are consistently shooting left of point of aim you are probably applying pressure to the right side of the trigger instead of perpendicular to the bore axis. Between the time the trigger breaks and the projectile leaves the barrel your front sight is moving to the left a few thousandths of an inch. That's all that it takes to throw off the point of impact. You can either move the rear sight to the right to compensate, or work on your trigger control. To me an inch at seven yards for a combat pistol is no big thing. I doubt that you will be cognizant of sight alignment or trigger control in a SHTF situation. Just sayin'.
Ram48
03-05-2013, 08:27 AM
I worked on trigger control at home then took the cw 45 for another range outing and My groups moved more towards center at 7 yards I am now mostly in the 9 ring on line vertically but still left. I am happy with where I am shooting now and expect that I will improve as I get more trigger time.
Now I need to take a course for either low light HD shooting or combat shooting and really bring my weak points to light so I can work on them
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