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KAHRX9
04-05-2010, 09:53 AM
How's it going everyone? I guess this is a question for any of you that have shot both. Which do you think has more recoil using 180gr ammo, the G27 or the PM40?

jeep45238
04-05-2010, 09:55 AM
With mags that have finger rests on both of them, I personally believe the Kahr has less felt recoil FOR ME. They'll both thump pretty good with 180 grains.

Same holds true on the PM9 vs. the G26.

KAHRX9
04-05-2010, 02:44 PM
With mags that have finger rests on both of them, I personally believe the Kahr has less felt recoil FOR ME. They'll both thump pretty good with 180 grains.

Same holds true on the PM9 vs. the G26.

I have shot the Glock 27 on two different ocassions with one experience being worst than the other. I am not recoil sensitive but I didn't enjoy shooting it. I was linking it to the grip angle. Do you use the extensions with the PM40?

KAHRX9
04-05-2010, 02:48 PM
Disregard the extension, I see that you use them.

Bawanna
04-05-2010, 03:10 PM
Everyone is gonna label me a 40 hater which is absolutely not true but if you didn't enjoy shooting a G27 your not gonna have a fun time with a PM40 at all. I've owned several G27's keep selling them to needy officers and it was a mouse gun compared to my K40 which is all steel. Not talking horrible afraid to shoot but definite recoil for sure. If your thinking tupperware, I'd go with the much loved and sought after PM9 or the equally loved and cherished PM45. Just my opinion for you to file as you see fit.

jocko
04-05-2010, 03:52 PM
Listen to Bawanna, he speaka the truth. Most and I do say most people report that the 40 cal polymer kahrs are a tuff gun to handle well. Not that some don't love um either. I have always said if I owned a polymer kahr 40 < I would definitely magna port it and some have done it and reported back to the forum that it helped tame the gun down big time.

Just kinda hard to beat the PM9 for shootability IMO. It is a hot caliber, there fore we don't see +P 40 ammo..

KAHRX9
04-05-2010, 04:11 PM
Everyone is gonna label me a 40 hater which is absolutely not true but if you didn't enjoy shooting a G27 your not gonna have a fun time with a PM40 at all. I've owned several G27's keep selling them to needy officers and it was a mouse gun compared to my K40 which is all steel. Not talking horrible afraid to shoot but definite recoil for sure. If your thinking tupperware, I'd go with the much loved and sought after PM9 or the equally loved and cherished PM45. Just my opinion for you to file as you see fit.

My first Kahr was the K40 and I absolutely loved it. I shot it like I stole it and the only reason why I don't have it is because of my S&W revolver addiction. I traded it in on a M13 3". The Glock 27 was just difficult for me to get a good combat purchase on it while shooting. Because of the grip angle on the PM40 I was thinking I could get a better purchase.

KAHRX9
04-05-2010, 04:18 PM
Has any one else other than jeep45238 shot the Glock 27 and PM40 with 180gr ammo?

jeep45238
04-05-2010, 04:33 PM
Just me speaking (again) - but I wouldn't want either one in a gun that small, especially with a polymer frame in that caliber. The Glock grip angle actually helps to soak up the oomph if you lock your elbows to full extension - but for my shooting style and build, the PM series runs much better.

A PM9, or CW9 / CW40 / K9 / K40 / MK9 and I'll run that sucker non stop :D

KAHRX9
04-05-2010, 04:40 PM
Listen to Bawanna, he speaka the truth. Most and I do say most people report that the 40 cal polymer kahrs are a tuff gun to handle well. Not that some don't love um either. I have always said if I owned a polymer kahr 40 < I would definitely magna port it and some have done it and reported back to the forum that it helped tame the gun down big time.

Just kinda hard to beat the PM9 for shootability IMO. It is a hot caliber, there fore we don't see +P 40 ammo..

I have enjoyed shooting the .40 caliber just the last time I shot the G27 I couldnt get the grip I prefer so it was jumping around in my hand. I have shot the Glock 27 once before without the finger extension and enjoyed it. I am really thinking about getting the PM40 but am trying to do as much research as I can before purchasing. I am definitely not recoil sensitive, one of my favorites is a Ruger Alaskan chambered in .44MAG. What really started me wondering about the PM40 were these two videos. This young man and his uncle are handling the PM40 quite well.

YouTube - Kahr PM40 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFQk4hqjD1w)

YouTube - Kahr PM40 Rapid Fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WGAhd04JW8)

KAHRX9
04-05-2010, 05:09 PM
Just me speaking (again) - but I wouldn't want either one in a gun that small, especially with a polymer frame in that caliber. The Glock grip angle actually helps to soak up the oomph if you lock your elbows to full extension - but for my shooting style and build, the PM series runs much better.

A PM9, or CW9 / CW40 / K9 / K40 / MK9 and I'll run that sucker non stop :D


What is your shooting style? I was under the impression that you used the PM40 as a ccw. I have owned the PM9, K9, K40, and the MK9. You are right, run that sucker non stop.

KAHRX9
04-05-2010, 06:04 PM
Here are links to a PM9 being shot rapid fire and a PM40 as well, I don't see that much of a difference.

YouTube - Kahr PM9 Test Fire "The Micro 9mm" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUT2ZaXfqes)

YouTube - Kahr PM40 Rapid Fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WGAhd04JW8)

jeep45238
04-05-2010, 06:34 PM
I used to run the Kahr T40 / 5" 1911 as my ccw - I now run a 5" M&P / 5" 1911. Ran a CW40 prior to that.

I rented a PM40, and a buddy has a G27 :)

rss5995
04-05-2010, 10:45 PM
i own both and have shot thousands of rounds through both. the g27 is a smooth shooter with similar recoil to any glock 40 cal. it is a superb gun in all respects, my favorite glock and my all-time favorite gun. the pm40 has more recoil but it's not punishing. an excellent gun but somewhat unreliable. a much better choice is the all steel mk40, a much more reliable kahr than their polymers and a much smoother shooting gun.