Front tab on follower breaking off

[skydude426]

What's the deal with the followers breaking. I have a cm40 and 2 extra magazines that I've had for a little over two months. 2 of the 3 mags have the front tab on the followers broke off. I broke one a few weeks ago. After reading on this forum that this is common, I emailed kahr last weekend. I received a reply saying they're sending one out ASAP. I haven't seen it yet. So I go to the range yesterday and another one breaks. Both followers broke with less than 200 rounds having gone through the mags. This is my first kahr and I'm a little disappointed. They should send out a dozen with every mag at this rate.

[jocko]

in ur case I would email kahr and tell them it has busted 2 of ur followers and that they need to issue a pick up and take the gun back and fix it. It ain'tgonna get better, They will issue u a pick up on it. get it fixed right

sending u a dozen is like a flat tire, u can air it back up but until u fix the flat it is gonna give u the same issue or u can put some fix a flat in it and get buy alittle longer but the issue is still there. The more of u owners who have this issue that insist kahr take it back and fix it right the sooner they are gonna get this thing fixed right IMO.

[muggsy]

Who manufactures Kahr magazines?

[Gliderguy]

I think they will actually check the tolerances on your gun, the feed ramp is smacking those followers HARD. might need a little tweaking to the feed ramp or a check to make sure other parts are in spec.

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[JimC]

Who manufactures Kahr magazines?

I have asked them on more than one occassion, they will not say.

[skeeter7]

You're not alone. My follower broke on the 1st day I took it out to the range. I sent Kahr an email yesterday. Hopefully I get a response tomorrow.

[JimC]

You're not alone. My follower broke on the 1st day I took it out to the range. I sent Kahr an email yesterday. Hopefully I get a response tomorrow.

If you sent it to either Ian Burr or Doug Williams, good luck with that.
It took me 5 days and three people at Kahr to acknowledge my inquiry about PM9 mag failure. :mad:
I finally got Jay D'Andrea to respond and my PM9 is back there now, or I hope it is.

[ParabellumJ]

My pm9 broke a follower on its first range trip. I called kahr and they issued a shipping label. A couple weeks later I got it back and it has gone over 1000 rounds since without a problem. My suggestion is to have them fix it. Something is causing it and needs to be addressed.

[skydude426]

I got an email from Jay at kahr today. They sent me a return for service order so I'm sending my cm40 in to have them check it out. Hopefully they fix the problem and I don't keep breaking followers.

[skeeter7]

I also got an email from Jay today and he said that he would be sending new followers to me. If they break, the gun is going back for sure. Let us know what the turnaround is like.

[JimC]

I also got an email from Jay today and he said that he would be sending new followers to me. If they break, the gun is going back for sure. Let us know what the turnaround is like.

I was quoted 2-3 weeks by Jay for my PM9.

[skydude426]

I was quoted 2 to 3 weeks also. I'll re-post when I get it back.

[steelcaser]

I am having the exact same issue with a new CM9. Last month I took it out for the first time and put 200 rounds of Speer Lawman 115gr through it and had around 10 failures to feed and the follower broke. They sent me a new follower and I took it out shooting again this past weekend, and I had the same failure to feed issues (6 times out of 100 rounds) BUT the follower did not break. Now it is going back as an RMA. It was also Jay D'Andrea who took my emails and he has been very helpful.

[skeeter7]

I got a couple followers in the mail for mine a few days after I emailed Kahr. I ran another 50 rounds through the gun only loading 3 rounds each time in the mag to test the mag release area and the last round lock back theory and the follower didnt break and there was no sign of damage and all rounds went flawlessly. I'll try it again next week sometime.

[skydude426]

I received my cm40 back from Kahr last week. The paper work said they polished the ramp and reworked the barrel. I'm not sure what reworking the barrel means but I took it to the range this weekend. I fired 11 magazines of ammo through it. No broken followers and no rounds hanging up on the ramp. However, all of the first 8 magazines had the slide lock open like the mag was empty when it wasn't. It happened at different round counts so it didn't correlate to a particular round count. The last 3 mags fired ok. I'm wondering if it needed some break in rounds after the work they did or if I have a new problem. I would have fired it more but I was tired and just wasting ammo after awhile. I'll fire it again next weekend and see what it dose. I don't want to bet my life on this weapon at this point.

[jocko]

reworkiubg the barrel is actually reworking the lower portion of the feed ramp. ur good to go now, just shoot it like u stole it. u should need no break in rounds,as they really did nuttin that was new. My 21 cents u can bet ur life on it now..

[LorenzoB]

Jocko, I think you better re-read his post before suggesting he bet his life on it. ;) His slide is locking back when there are still rounds in the mag.

[LorenzoB]

skydude426, you may have a new problem, but it may have worked itself out on the last 3 mags. There are others here that can probably help you determine that better than I can. I would take it to the range one more time (without failures) before I would bet my life on it.

Could you see where or what the slide was catching on?

[jocko]

Jocko, I think you better re-read his post before suggesting he bet his life on it. ;) His slide is locking back when there are still rounds in the mag.

I sure did miss that part. thanks.:Amflag2:

[skydude426]

LorenzoB,
No, I couldn't tell what was causing the slide to lock open with rounds still in the mag. I'll fire it next weekend and see if it does it again. I hope the problems I'm having with my weapon are the exception to normal. If not Kahr has some cm40 issues.

[wyntrout]

Make sure the screw holding the washer over the slide lock spring is tight, but NOT TOO TIGHT! Or, maybe the SL actuator needs a little fine tuning after you see if rounds are hitting the actuator.

Wynn:)

[cmichael22]

My dad shot my PM40 and had the similar problem of the slide staying back even with rounds left in it. I then shot it and had no problems. What I was maybe thinking that happened was he accidently hit the slide stop when he shot it and it locked it back in place. I am not sure if this is what happened but it was my guess.

[skydude426]

I fired my again today and had the slide lock back with rounds still in the mag several times. I have a personal defense class tomorrow and will be putting many rounds through it. I'll pay close attention to my thumb placement and determine if this could be the cause.

[jocko]

onehasto realizethat when that 40calgoes boom, thereis just one heh of an explosion and that gun is so light and smallthat it is very har dot control and things happen so fast that u just arentsure if u caused it or not. shootingit left handed will show if the thumb was the culprt...

[greygt]

I'm glad to see I'm not alone with this problem. I bought a new CM 40 a week ago friday. It functioned perfectly as far as feeding, shooting etc. It was at the 6th loading of the 5 round mag that I saw the follower was half gone. I put 250 rounds through the gun that day. 200 of standard pressure 155 and 165gr 40 and 50 rounds of corbon 135 gr. The mag still functioned perfectly. It was more of a problem loading it than anything else. The factory 6 rd mag I bought the day I bought the gun worked perfectly. And it did the majority of the work that day when I discovered the broken follower. I contacted Kahr and got the parts being shipped asap response. I'm going to see if it happens again and go from there.

[skydude426]

I put 100 rounds through it today at the personal protection class. I'm just not convinced the slide locking open with rounds still in the mag is from my thumb hitting the slide stop. For one thing it never did that before I sent it in to Kahr and they reworked the slide to fix the problem of rounds hanging up on the slide and the followers breaking. I installed Trijicon night sights on it which I love even in the daylight. I can make nice groups with this gun and really want to get it working right. Any ideas?

[jocko]

check out wyns photo tutorial on that slide stop spring and how it should look, It cold need a slight tweeking... under cw45 fixes..

[Dyvm]

In my experience, when the slide "locks" with rounds still in the magazine I have found that it is not actually locked but just stuck back. Try tapping the back of the slide with the heel of your hand to see if it will return to battery that way (in other words try to move it without messing with the slide stop). If it does return to battery by tapping the back of the slide something is hanging the slide up. In my case i'm relatively sure it was broken followers causing my problems. I have the gun at a smith to see if he can smooth the ramp some so it stops breaking the followers AND have additional followers on the way from Kahr. Unfortunately it sounds like someones issue above might not be that since they sent the gun to Khar for the same work and it was returned.

I **THINK** this might just be caused by a slight difficulty in stripping a new round and seating it in the chamber. With a broken follower the round does not sit exactly right to be stripped and seated properly but with out a broken follower I would look to the magazine lips or the ramp as a culprit (I am no gunsmith however).

I hope we can all get back to having a blast with our Kahr's soon.

[skydude426]

My slide stop spring wasn't loose. So I had a gun smith look at it and he thought what I was suspecting. That the slide stop spring is worn or a little bent so it's not putting enough resistance on the slide stop. I emailed Jay at Kahr, explained the problem and he's sending out a new slide stop spring. I know that small powerful handguns can be touchy. I'm determined to get the bugs ironed out of this thing.

[skydude426]

There must have been a communication mix up because Kahr sent me a slide spring, not a slide stop spring. I decided the hell with it and ordered a slide stop spring from the website. Now I'll wait to receive it again to see if I can get this thing working. As I've said before its an accurate little high powered gun that I love to shoot. I just hope the frustrations I'm having are the exception to the rule.