View Full Version : New CM9....have a few questions.
thefarmboy21
03-07-2013, 10:57 AM
I just received my new CM9 and it feels really nice but I have a few questions.
1. It takes two hands to release my slide with the slide release, even if I pull back on the slide....is this normal? There's no way I could quickly change mags and chamber a new round in an emergency.
2. Looking straight at the front, the barrel looks buried in the bottom of the slide. Instead of equal space all the way around the barrel , there's a large gap at the top and its riding hard on the bottom?
3. What brand, weight, etc... Ammo do these like to eat? Also your recommendations for my EDC ammo.
4. Holster recommendations? I prefer to pocket carry, but I would also like a nice IWB. I really like the looks of the N82 holsters.
5. Oh and what's the trick to tearing down the slide assemblies? My manual has nothing.
I'm sure there are multiple threads in each of these but I can't seem to find exactly what I want. I read the new owners thread about cleaning and re-lubing etc. And also the lube chart. I'll be using Froglube myself. Thanks!
thefarmboy21
03-07-2013, 11:02 AM
Oh, and is it necessary to send in the warranty card? It doesn't even ask for the serial number? I just don't like the fact that all my info isn't covered. Just a postcard with all my info on it.
jocko
03-07-2013, 11:09 AM
keep ur receipt, the barrel is perfe4ct it is like that on all locked breech semi's look at a glock if u wanna see the same thing. U have not shot the gun yet, so how about givin it some rounds down range before getting excited about really nuttin. U willbe amazed as how it smoothes out.
Not sure what ur doing witht he slide release, if u tryiin to releacse ut with an empty magazine in thegun, indeed it willbe stiff to do, without a mag it wllbe easier. ur basiclay noutuysed tothe gun yet.
I would strongly adv9ise reading whyns new member thread, it is gonna tellu about things u have already asked about.
then the kahr lube chart thread. It is awesome.
then the propper prepping thread. It willgive some tips to look for.
there is on the kahr tech secion a stickly even on the slide take down and how to do it and some super easy tips on doin it.
if ur gonna break it in like kahrs suggest, use fmj 115 grain amm, if u can find it. don't buy junk ammo, stick with american brand stuff.
Ikeo74
03-07-2013, 11:19 AM
Oh, and is it necessary to send in the warranty card? It doesn't even ask for the serial number? I just don't like the fact that all my info isn't covered. Just a postcard with all my info on it.
You might work on your reading skills, the manual gives detailed instructions on taking the gun apart for cleaning and the warranty card "does" ask for your serial number.:rolleyes: You can register your gun on line to avoid the postman from seeing your serial number.
southsound
03-07-2013, 11:43 AM
I'll answer a couple of your questions from my own experience. YMMV ;)
My EDC ammo is Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P Short Barrel Hollow Point. I use a Speer Lawman round for practice. Amazingly similar recoil, etc., so practice is not as expensive as using the Gold Dots.
Although you didn't ask, my favorite grip is a Kwik Grip available for about $10 online.
I've been carrying my CM9 in an Uncle Mike's for pocket carry and a leather Kusiak holster forr for IWB. Price is just $35 or $45 with a built-in mag holder. Here is a link to their site: Kusiak Leather (http://www.kusiakleather.com/) Pictures follow.
http://soundlearning.com/Pictures/K1.JPG
http://soundlearning.com/Pictures/K2.JPG
http://soundlearning.com/Pictures/K3.JPG
http://soundlearning.com/Pictures/K6.JPG
gb6491
03-07-2013, 11:57 AM
thefarmboy21,
Welcome to the forums:)
As jocko said, when correctly installed the slide stop lever is spring biased down and will release when the slide is pulled back over a loaded magazine or without a magazine in place. It is also easier to push down to release the slide with a loaded magazine or no magazine in place.
With an unloaded magazine in place, the follower and magazine spring are holding the stop lever up; combine this with recoil spring pressure when the slide is locked back and you have a stop lever that is difficult to operate.
Here's the link to online warranty registration: https://www.kahr.com/warranty-registration.asp
Regards,
Greg
wyntrout
03-07-2013, 12:01 PM
I've never registered a Kahr, or any other gun for warranty. So I don't think that is necessary. I do keep up with the date of purchase and keep all documentation. I include the pistol serial number with any Customer Service requests from Kahr.
Here some info and the best thing for you to do is to watch the Take Down Video for your pistol and read the FAQs.
Welcome to the Kahrtalk forum supported by Kahr Arms.
Here are a few essential links and things to do BEFORE you take your new pistol to the range, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE taking it apart and trying to re-assemble it! The Kahr is a different design… 6-7 unique patents cover the Kahrs. I’m not trying to imply that you don’t know anything about guns, but many don’t know anything about the Kahrs and some of the things you can do to damage or cause malfunctions of your new, or new-to-you Kahr pistol.
First, if you don’t have a manual, yet, or one didn’t come with your pistol, you can download the pdf file here:
http://www.kahr.com/PDF/kahrmanual.pdf
Impatient? Watch one of these videos FIRST! These videos can point out possible problem areas and emphasize correct procedures!
Take down and re-assembly videos:
T, TP, CW, P, & PM/CM Series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=G2cZgVg_SwA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G2cZgVg_SwA)
MK series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...mSCnIOaUk#t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zXmSCnIOaUk#t=0s)
K series:
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-K9-Elite.asp
There are many links on fixing problems listed in several places… under the New Member or Kahr Tech sub-forums.
A very handy one is the Kahr Lube Diagram:
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14750
Many of your questions can be answered in these areas and you can learn how your Kahr works and not damage it with improper handling.
Frequently asked questions: http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp?
One very important bit of advice: Hold the Kahr pistol firmly when firing OR CHAMBERING a round. These compact pistols need all of the force they can get from the slide to get a round into the chamber successfully. If you don't hold the pistol firmly, part of the needed momentum is transferred to MOVING THE PISTOL and the top round will DIVE and jam into the right side of the feed ramp. The weak hand, over hand rack method gives the best grip and a firm rack will give you the best chance at chambering a round.
Use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear. Use the gun hand to simultaneously firmly push the gun as you give a vigorous rack with the weak hand and cleanly release the slide as it reaches the rear limit and is "snatched" from the weak hand. This approximates a real rack from firing and beats the slide release method WHEN executed properly. Much more strength can be exerted when this is done closer to the body.
Here's a video on that. The first part is what I'm talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hjLbFOw8sow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hjLbFOw8sow)
There are many helpful members here most of the time who might be able to help you, but as anywhere, there are many opinions and not all are correct. Be mindful of this before doing anything drastic to modify your pistol!
Wynn:)
Aka wyntrout
thefarmboy21
03-07-2013, 07:16 PM
Well I don't know what's going on with my slide stop. It may be above the spring, I'll have to check. I was just wondering why the manual doesn't have a complete tear down of the slide. I don't mean field strip I mean complete firing pin disassembly etc. Where do I find that? Ammo is scarce right now, but I did manage to catch a late night Walmart truck and scored three 100 round value packs of Winchester white box, 115gr, FMJ....3 was the limit. But with LGS wanting $30 for 50 rounds and $180 for 350 bulk packs, I scored this stuff at $24.95 per box :D It's a shame it's come to this an no one can buy anything, or one guy buys all he can and sells it for double. I just want what I'll shoot, and it will last me a while. Anyway, thanks for all the help. I really like that Kwik grip by the way. All I've seen is the Handall jr's. I must say, the CM series has a strange guide rod design. But so far I love my new Kahr, hopefully the weather will clear up tomorrow or Saturday do I can try it out. Work also puts a damper on my target time. Thanks for all the help!!! Just point me in the right path and I'll go.
Cubby
03-07-2013, 07:26 PM
My first outing with my CM9 rubbed my thumb raw using the slide release lever, but I toughed it out! Now with 375 rounds through it, no problem. It releases much easier now. I love the sound of the slide slamming home and stripping that round from the mag. But then my wife says that I'm wierd....
thefarmboy21
03-07-2013, 07:39 PM
Haha. Well I'm hoping all it needs is worked loose a little. I'll clean it tomorrow hopefully and put some Froglube on it and try it out if the weather isn't too bad.
JustinN
03-07-2013, 08:04 PM
Is yours that stiff with a loaded mag or an empty one? With a loaded mag, simply pulling the slide backwards should drop the slide stop out of the way (try it with NO magazine) and let us know how that goes). If its stiff even with No mag, or a loaded magazine, it could be the pin is installed above the spring...they are easy to miss.
As far as the slide take down, other than pulling the barrel and recoil spring/guide rod, there isn't any further take down necessary for routine cleaning. I don't believe Glocks or any other popular pistol including the instructions for tearing the slide apart further than that, as it is normally reserved for armorers, not the standard "time to clean takedown". It's easy to put the barrel and spring back in....but getting the slide assembly back together is a different story. It can be found online, but I don't think Kahr includes it as they don't want the average Joe attempting it to just to see what the inside looks like...
wyntrout
03-07-2013, 08:12 PM
You don't have to ever use the slide lock lever. You can lock the slide back with an empty magazine inserted prior to pulling the slide back... and you can rack... properly! with a clean release and a loaded magazine inserted to chamber a round.
A weak hand fingers over the slide grip rack with a FIRM grip and clean release can chamber a round from slide forward or locked to the rear on a loaded magazine.
That can be a good habit to get into... NOT using the slide release. Just remember to grip the pistol firmly to preclude losing slide momentum in moving the pistol... LIMP WRISTING!
Wynn:)
gb6491
03-07-2013, 08:19 PM
... I was just wondering why the manual doesn't have a complete tear down of the slide. I don't mean field strip I mean complete firing pin disassembly etc. Where do I find that? ...
Hmm, I can't remember ever seeing an owner's manual that included a detailed procedure for stripping the slide. However, you can download the procedure for a Kahr slide here: http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13604349&postcount=52
Regards,
Greg
wyntrout
03-07-2013, 08:24 PM
They don't give the instructions to keep guys from taking the whole danged thing apart. It isn't necessary for regular cleaning! We already have guys tearing the pistol down and putting it back together without reading the manual OR watching the video! It AIN'T just a regular run of the mill pistol. It's a whole new design utilizing 6 to 7 new patents.
Is my face BLUE??:rolleyes:
Wynn:)
JFootin
03-07-2013, 08:30 PM
Welcome to the forum, thefarmboy21! :) There is a wealth of valuable information in the New Member Area (http://kahrtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=56) and the Kahr-Tech (http://kahrtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27) sections of the forum, including a tutorial on full slide disassembly.
And welcome to the CM9 Owners Club! :D Our official symbol is the wide grin smily because we are so happy with our purchase that we can't wipe the smiles off our faces!
Here is your club badge.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Smilies/BigSmily.jpg
The best holster I have found for forget-it-is-there comfort 24/7 with my CM9 is the PJ IWB Holster (http://pjholster.com/?page_id=37). There are so, so many members here that will concur. Paul is a great guy and a real gun lover, and he performs magic with kydex - making the holster incredibly comfortable to where you can't tell it is there whether sitting, standing or moving about. It is like the mass of the gun disappears, becoming one with your body. I carry mine with a 15° cant just behind my hip - the sweet spot. I prefer the linked one with the over the belt clip. It is available with j-hook, c-hook and velcro attachment method, and tuckable is an option. I have a tuckable one with velcro for if I need total concealment, but normally wear the above under a loose shirt
yqtszhj
03-07-2013, 10:32 PM
I agree with what the others said. mine was tight at first.It loosens up a lot with shooting. Good score on that Walmart Ammo too. Go run 100 rounds down range, bring it home and clean it up, then go shoot another 100. have some fun with it. you're gonna like that pistol.
You won't really need to take down the entire slide, although I did it to mine recently since I was playing around.
thefarmboy21
03-08-2013, 09:00 PM
I just sold my piece of junk PF9 and I always had to tear in completely down and clean the firing pin hole out. THAT is why I asked, plus I wanted as much of the factory oil out as possible....that was the only reason I asked. I figured it was a normal thing to do with a new one and then after a few hundred rounds. Also I believe my slide stop was on the wrong side of the spring out of the box.....popped it out and back in carefully today and its much better now. Thanks for all the help. I'll check out those holsters for sure and do some more reading up. Nice weather forecast tomorrow so I hope to shoot for a while.
wyntrout
03-08-2013, 09:53 PM
Here's some more info. Some of it may help.
Welcome to the Kahrtalk forum supported by Kahr Arms.
Here are a few essential links and things to do BEFORE you take your new pistol to the range, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE taking it apart and trying to re-assemble it! The Kahr is a different design… 6-7 unique patents cover the Kahrs. I’m not trying to imply that you don’t know anything about guns, but many don’t know anything about the Kahrs and some of the things you can do to damage or cause malfunctions of your new, or new-to-you Kahr pistol.
First, if you don’t have a manual, yet, or one didn’t come with your pistol, you can download the pdf file here:
http://www.kahr.com/PDF/kahrmanual.pdf
Impatient? Watch one of these videos FIRST! These videos can point out possible problem areas and emphasize correct procedures!
Take down and re-assembly videos:
T, TP, CW, P, & PM/CM Series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=G2cZgVg_SwA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G2cZgVg_SwA)
MK series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...mSCnIOaUk#t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zXmSCnIOaUk#t=0s)
K series:
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-K9-Elite.asp
There are many links on fixing problems listed in several places… under the New Member or Kahr Tech sub-forums.
A very handy one is the Kahr Lube Diagram:
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14750
Many of your questions can be answered in these areas and you can learn how your Kahr works and not damage it with improper handling.
Frequently asked questions: http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp?
One very important bit of advice: Hold the Kahr pistol firmly when firing OR CHAMBERING a round. These compact pistols need all of the force they can get from the slide to get a round into the chamber successfully. If you don't hold the pistol firmly, part of the needed momentum is transferred to MOVING THE PISTOL and the top round will DIVE and jam into the right side of the feed ramp. The weak hand, over hand rack method gives the best grip and a firm rack will give you the best chance at chambering a round.
Use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear. Use the gun hand to simultaneously firmly push the gun as you give a vigorous rack with the weak hand and cleanly release the slide as it reaches the rear limit and is "snatched" from the weak hand. This approximates a real rack from firing and beats the slide release method WHEN executed properly. Much more strength can be exerted when this is done closer to the body.
Here's a video on that. The first part is what I'm talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hjLbFOw8sow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hjLbFOw8sow)
There are many helpful members here most of the time who might be able to help you, but as anywhere, there are many opinions and not all are correct. Be mindful of this before doing anything drastic to modify your pistol!
Wynn:)
Aka wyntrout
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