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Bill K
03-08-2013, 06:30 AM
Looks pretty certain that here in Connecticut we'll be going to 10 round max magazine capacity. There is no way the Republicans can stop it - we'll have new "assault rifle" and mag capacity laws. :(

The proposed Democrat & Governor's law include language to restrict mag capacity but appears to allow modifying an existing mag to restrict its +10 capacity to 10 rounds. How could I go about doing this without compromising the reliability of the mag or making the change permanent? Would it be as simple as fashioning a wooden plug that fits just inside the mag spring?

Thanks...

[Ps. I'd like to move out of Connecticut to greener pastures but for several reasons that's not likely to happen.]

JustinN
03-08-2013, 06:42 AM
A wooden plug should work fine for what you want....BUT I'd be very cautious as far as what they expect for a modification. I would find an easily reversible modification unacceptable in their eyes. I could be wrong about that but I would suspect they're looking for a permanent change, something that if it ever came down to it, they wouldn't be able to manipulate the magazine and force in 11 rounds...

jocko
03-08-2013, 06:43 AM
i WoULD BET ALOT OF THESE GUN MAKERS ARE SCRAMBLING TO COME UP WITH MAG SPACERS FOR THEIR MODEL GUNS. nOT TO SURE IF THERE IS A ONE SIZE FITS ALL, BUT U CAN BET SOMEONE IS WORKING ON THAT TO.

a shame,makes one wonder about some of these politicians, who more thnal likely have some tpe of armed protection with them most any time. I have no doubt the BG will be in line to make his illegal gun legal.:amflag:

JFootin
03-08-2013, 08:56 AM
I imagine that manufacurers will me making conversion kits.

340pd
03-08-2013, 09:40 AM
I would wait until the law actually passes before I would worry about how to modify your mag. In some cases they may "grandfather" existing mags, or they will come out with a definition of what is acceptable. It is my understanding in NY 10 round mags are allowed but may contain only 7 loaded rounds. VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT OF OFFICE. I live in MN, and so far the over 1000 e-mail letters of mine, and hundreds of thousands from others, is working. If you have a gun rights group organized in your State have them write a proposal that would be acceptable to both sides. That is working for us in my state. If that fails, Tell them you are going to do it, and VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT OF OFFICE.

gb6491
03-08-2013, 09:40 AM
There's usually enough space front to rear in a magazine that you could use an adhesive to attach a shim to the back wall of the magazine. Make the shim about the same thickness as the the follower is at the rear and whatever height you need to limit the follower's travel to the required magazine capacity.
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Regards,
Greg

Sleeve17
03-08-2013, 09:44 AM
Gb6491, better get your patent in now. You have a winner on your hands!

chrish
03-08-2013, 09:46 AM
There is a video on YouTube that I ran across awhile back when I was watching reviews of the CZ P01/SP01 and he was doing just that (in CA) to avoid paying a fortune for CZ factory mags. He had orderd cheaper MecGar "repair kits" that were legal to order in CA but were in essence most of the parts for a full high capacity mag from what I could tell in the video. Anyhoo...he fashioned a copper base and upright plug that was exactly what you described doing w/ wood.

He stated something similar about permanent vs reversible (like JustinN was alluding to) that made me think, ummm, no thanks.

I don't think I'd chance it. Sell (...or <cough, cough> bury them) your hi caps and get some legal ones. If the particular manuf in question produces conversion kits, and your state will consider that acceptable, then great, easy and hopefully cheaper solution.

reswob
03-08-2013, 10:41 AM
Mass exodus from these states would solve a lot of problems. Suddenly, there aren't enough workers, the state's economy collapses, and they're overrun with criminals since all the good guy gun owners left.

I hope the gun manufacturers DON'T scramble to make 7 round mags. A big "**** you" to the new slave states. Complete inavailability of liberal-compliant magazines will force gun owners to, a) demand the repeal of these outrageous laws, and/or, b) break the law, get caught with evil 8+ round mags, and take it all the way to the supreme court.

Bill K
03-08-2013, 11:03 AM
Yes, will have to wait for the exact wording to see whether a non-permanent mod would be legal. The Governor's and the Democrat's proposal (or whatever you call it) will NOT allow grandfathering. As I read it in a local paper sell, mod or turn over to the police by October. BTW, like that tab idea.

I'm wiling to book to another state but for a number of very understandable reasons (kids, family, friends, church, etc.) my wife, right now anyway, is not ready for a move.

Oh, could be worse there was an early proposal for two rounds max and look at NY with 7 rounds max.

Very interesting comments, all...

Tilos
03-08-2013, 01:29 PM
Mass exodus from these states would solve a lot of problems. Suddenly, there aren't enough workers, the state's economy collapses, and they're overrun with criminals since all the good guy gun owners left.

As I see it, that's already happened in Ct.
I left when when they instituted the state income tax( thanks Lowel).

Most industry has left, with the major cities hollow shells of what they once were, surrounded by ghettos, and every time I go back I see more and more blight and run down homes.
...sad

reswob
03-08-2013, 04:24 PM
As I see it, that's already happened in Ct.
I left when when they instituted the state income tax( thanks Lowel).

Most industry has left, with the major cities hollow shells of what they once were, surrounded by ghettos, and every time I go back I see more and more blight and run down homes.
...sad

Unbelievably, there is still a lot of the firearms industry headquartered there. Colt, Mossberg, Stag, OKay. Not sure if Ruger and Winchester still have presence there or not. I picked up a PTR-91 at the gun show last weekend and learned they are made a couple miles from where I used to live in Bristol.

Then you've got S&W (and Kahr of course) in Mass., Springfield and ArmaLite in IL, Beretta in MD, Remington in NY. Just think what would happen if all the gun companies pulled their tax dollars out of liberal states and moved to the land of the free!

TheTman
03-08-2013, 05:29 PM
If you have to permantly alter your mags to only accept 10 rounds, and don't want to do that, you can buy Kalifornia legal 10 round mags, and bury your standard capacity mags someplace.

MC1911
03-08-2013, 05:31 PM
The mass exodus will keep states even more in control by lefties and their government dependent welfare allies. Keep working to defend the constitution.

Tilos
03-08-2013, 05:55 PM
Colt is still there because of government contracts, and any others still left in gun valley are either owned by someone else or struggling to survive.
No one that worked in the Ruger factory in Southport could afford to live anywhere near the plant, back in the 90s, and part of the reason Bill Ruger built a plant in NH (he summered there) and a plant in AZ (he wintered there).
I'm no longer up on the gun industry, but know whoever owns Remington has been buying up the struggling companies more for their names and if they continue production, with or without moving the operation, the quality suffers.

I spent some time working in manufacturing and watched many companies, in different industries, become more and more top heavy with most additional non producing employees hired to track and administer all the new government requirements/compliances/regulations.
The last being a defense contractor, while the manufacturing was done in a plant built in 1962 and never updated, with a 5 story office tower built in the parking lot in 1995, and another 5 story office tower finished the year I left, 2005.

Keep in mind, none of those shiny asses (1) ever even touched any hardware or product, and I was "encouraged" to work faster and ever faster to cover the added overhead.

(1) shiny ass is an old term for people who sat down all day and the ass of there pants became shiny.
The term is no longer appropriate since no one uses wooden office chairs anymore, and pants do not become shiny from upholstered chairs:D

sorry for the drift...

muggsy
03-10-2013, 10:28 AM
If the people simply refuse to follow the law how many jails and prisons would they have to build to house all of the people? What would it cost to feed them? Maybe it's time to start thinking outside of the box. Vote the bastards out of office.

MikeyKahr
03-10-2013, 04:48 PM
They'll make room for us gun nuts, send home the druggies, drunks and rabblerousers.

Tilos
03-10-2013, 05:00 PM
Like most, when they knock on YOUR DOOR, you will need to decide, wheather to reach for your wallet, or hand them over...no "what if" to it at that point.

aKahrt_and_p2KT
03-10-2013, 08:47 PM
It's like the plug in a shotgun for waterfowl hunting here.

KoolBreeze
03-10-2013, 09:26 PM
I'd just buy new legal magazines and load the illegal ones up with SD ammo, mark them and put them somewhere safe that I could get to them if I needed them. If you're overly concerned about having them, then hide them in the attic or something. No way I'd part with or permanently modify them, illegal or not; the bastards can go pound sand.

Tilos
03-11-2013, 04:19 PM
+1
The laws could be changed in the future...but not likely in CT unless someone with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ challenges the law