PM9 Slide Play

[Boylerman]

I haven't had my PM9 all that long, and I did buy it second hand, so I'm not sure if my observation is common on all PM9's.

I've noticed, that when I flex the trigger, there is some upwards movement toward the front of the slide close to the muzzle. This movement is somewhat less when the magazine is seated, and if inward pressure is put on the magazine, the movement is not there at all.

I'm wondering if this is normal. I've read lots of observations regarding how "tight" the Kahr handguns are, but it does seem (at least in my gun) that there is some up and down play on the slide. Not a real big issue, the movement is very minor, but it can be felt if you hold your hand between the frame and the slide. I'm curious whether this is something affecting my gun alone, or is common to Kahrs.

Thanks.

[wyntrout]

That sounds normal. As the trigger is pulled there is pressure against the slide and it does move a bit as the cam cocks the striker the rest of the way. There is some looseness in the slide to frame fit.

Here's some more info:

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One very important bit of advice: Hold the Kahr pistol firmly when firing OR CHAMBERING a round. These compact pistols need all of the force they can get from the slide to get a round into the chamber successfully. If you don't hold the pistol firmly, part of the needed momentum is transferred to MOVING THE PISTOL and the top round will DIVE and jam into the right side of the feed ramp. The weak hand, over hand rack method gives the best grip and a firm rack will give you the best chance at chambering a round.

Use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear. Use the gun hand to simultaneously firmly push the gun as you give a vigorous rack with the weak hand and cleanly release the slide as it reaches the rear limit and is "snatched" from the weak hand. This approximates a real rack from firing and beats the slide release method WHEN executed properly. Much more strength can be exerted when this is done closer to the body.

Here's a video on that. The first part is what I'm talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hjLbFOw8sow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hjLbFOw8sow)

There are many helpful members here most of the time who might be able to help you, but as anywhere, there are many opinions and not all are correct. Be mindful of this before doing anything drastic to modify your pistol!


Wynn:)
Aka wyntrout

[Boylerman]

Thanks for the clarification. That's what I was hoping to hear.

Kent

[jocko]

I haven't had my PM9 all that long, and I did buy it second hand, so I'm not sure if my observation is common on all PM9's.

I've noticed, that when I flex the trigger, there is some upwards movement toward the front of the slide close to the muzzle. This movement is somewhat less when the magazine is seated, and if inward pressure is put on the magazine, the movement is not there at all.

I'm wondering if this is normal. I've read lots of observations regarding how "tight" the Kahr handguns are, but it does seem (at least in my gun) that there is some up and down play on the slide. Not a real big issue, the movement is very minor, but it can be felt if you hold your hand between the frame and the slide. I'm curious whether this is something affecting my gun alone, or is common to Kahrs.

Thanks.

normal, pay no attention to it, just shoot it like u stole it and u will love the little bugger. second hand has nuttin to do with it, nuttin is worn, or anything lke that, just it is what it is