Question About Trigger for CM9

[swrdply400mrelay]

Hey was contemplating a CM9 for my CCW but had a few questions about the trigger. Can't find a range that rents it out unfortunately.

1. Is there a lot of travel?

2. Is the trigger reset short?

3. Is the reset palpable?

4. Does the trigger break clean like a Glock?

5. Does anyone know the trigger pull in pounds?

6. Can you feel pretty well when the trigger is about to break when you take up the slack?


Thanks!

[Glock23]

Hey was contemplating a CM9 for my CCW but had a few questions about the trigger. Can't find a range that rents it out unfortunately.

1. Is there a lot of travel?

2. Is the trigger reset short?

3. Is the reset palpable?

4. Does the trigger break clean like a Glock?

5. Does anyone know the trigger pull in pounds?

Thanks!

I have the CM40, but otherwise they're the same.

1. Yes... it is a long, double action trigger, similar to a revolver.

2. No, it resets almost back at its starting position.

3. Yes, you can feel (and hear) the reset.

4. If you think a Glock trigger breaks clean, you will fall in love with the Kahr's trigger break.

5. I think it's around 6lbs.

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[wyntrout]

Welcome to the forum. Someone will come along to answer those questions. Here's some info and links:

Welcome to the Kahrtalk forum supported by Kahr Arms.
Here are a few essential links and things to do BEFORE you take your new pistol to the range, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE taking it apart and trying to re-assemble it! The Kahr is a different design… 6-7 unique patents cover the Kahrs. I’m not trying to imply that you don’t know anything about guns, but many don’t know anything about the Kahrs and some of the things you can do to damage or cause malfunctions of your new, or new-to-you Kahr pistol.
First, if you don’t have a manual, yet, or one didn’t come with your pistol, you can download the pdf file here:
http://www.kahr.com/PDF/kahrmanual.pdf
Impatient? Watch one of these videos FIRST! These videos can point out possible problem areas and emphasize correct procedures!
Take down and re-assembly videos:
T, TP, CW, P, & PM/CM Series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=G2cZgVg_SwA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G2cZgVg_SwA)
MK series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...mSCnIOaUk#t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zXmSCnIOaUk#t=0s)
K series:
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-K9-Elite.asp
There are many links on fixing problems listed in several places… under the New Member or Kahr Tech sub-forums.
A very handy one is the Kahr Lube Diagram:
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14750
Many of your questions can be answered in these areas and you can learn how your Kahr works and not damage it with improper handling.
Frequently asked questions: http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp?

One very important bit of advice: Hold the Kahr pistol firmly when firing OR CHAMBERING a round. These compact pistols need all of the force they can get from the slide to get a round into the chamber successfully. If you don't hold the pistol firmly, part of the needed momentum is transferred to MOVING THE PISTOL and the top round will DIVE and jam into the right side of the feed ramp. The weak hand, over hand rack method gives the best grip and a firm rack will give you the best chance at chambering a round.

Use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear. Use the gun hand to simultaneously firmly push the gun as you give a vigorous rack with the weak hand and cleanly release the slide as it reaches the rear limit and is "snatched" from the weak hand. This approximates a real rack from firing and beats the slide release method WHEN executed properly. Much more strength can be exerted when this is done closer to the body.

Here's a video on that. The first part is what I'm talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hjLbFOw8sow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hjLbFOw8sow)

There are many helpful members here most of the time who might be able to help you, but as anywhere, there are many opinions and not all are correct. Be mindful of this before doing anything drastic to modify your pistol!


Wynn:)
Aka wyntrout

[swrdply400mrelay]

Thanks for the replies!

Another question: so can you feel pretty well when the trigger is about to break when you take up the slack?

[wyntrout]

I do that sometimes, but I've had a few "premature" shots doing it too quickly!:D You can feel where it's about to break. Moving the slide back about half an inch suffices for resets if dry firing, especially with a snapcap.

Wynn:)

[Short Bus]

Thanks for the replies!

Another question: so can you feel pretty well when the trigger is about to break when you take up the slack?
I would say, not reliably, especially with a Wolff reduced power striker spring. It's just a smooth pull all the way.

[muggsy]

The trigger pull can be lightened to about 4 pounds by replacing the striker spring with a lighter one. I can empty my CM9 (7 rounds) in under two second so trigger reset isn't really an issue. No more so that it is with a revolver. The trigger pull is as smooth as butter. Try it, you'll like it. Kahr pistols were made to be dry fired with no problems. In time you will develop a feel for when the trigger is going to break, but there is no stacking in a Kahr trigger.

[Cubby]

In a defensive situation you are not going to try and find the "break" point of the trigger! The gun does OK for accuracy, but it's not a range gun....But like others have stated, the trigger is smooth!

[yqtszhj]

The trigger pull can be lightened to about 4 pounds by replacing the striker spring with a lighter one. I can empty my CM9 (7 rounds) in under two second so trigger reset isn't really an issue. No more so that it is with a revolver. The trigger pull is as smooth as butter. Try it, you'll like it. Kahr pistols were made to be dry fired with no problems. In time you will develop a feel for when the trigger is going to break, but there is no stacking in a Kahr trigger.

2 seconds, that's spraying right there. I'm gonna have to try that.

Like Muggsy said, Try it, You'll like it. I love mine.

[JLeephoto]

It's nothing like the more 2 stage trigger of a Glock. It's a loong smoooth trigger with little stacking and a crisp break and reset is almost totally back out. It feels like the best revolver trigger on the market especially with the Wolff reduced power spring. And it's much better than most traditional double action triggers.
I still find the Glock the easier to shoot because it's what I have the most trigger time with, but overall most shooters find the Kahr trigger great compared to other pocket guns and it's easy to keep rounds on target at likely defensive shooting distances.
These are great hideaway guns but manage your expectations. These are not meant to be bullseye target guns.

[TheTman]

I quit trying to anticipate the break point a long time ago, and just give the trigger one smooth squeeze and let break when it does. There was just no way I could reliably anticipate the break point. The trigger is just too smooth. For me, it's about perfect, long enough, that no muscle spasm or twitch or anything is going to set it off, but quick enough I can be pretty accurate with it. That's with a CW40, but the triggers are should be close to the same.

[JFootin]

I quit trying to anticipate the break point a long time ago, and just give the trigger one smooth squeeze and let break when it does. There was just no way I could reliably anticipate the break point. The trigger is just too smooth. For me, it's about perfect, long enough, that no muscle spasm or twitch or anything is going to set it off, but quick enough I can be pretty accurate with it. That's with a CW40, but the triggers are should be close to the same.

^Definitely. People compare it to a double action revolver, but you can stage those triggers. There is no discernible staging point with a Kahr trigger. I kinda wish there was. My cheap little Taurus 738 TCP 380 has a long, smooth, light trigger pull that is far superior to all the other 380s except the P380. But it has a definite staging point just like a revolver. Normally, I don't use it, but it can help with accuracy on longer shots.

[BEARDOG]

It's nothing like the more 2 stage trigger of a Glock. It's a loong smoooth trigger with little stacking and a crisp break and reset is almost totally back out.
These are great hideaway guns but manage your expectations. These are not meant to be bullseye target guns.

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Also any Kahr pistol - PM9, CW9, P9, etc,etc. you can find and handle/shoot will have the same trigger pull as a CM9.