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ptoemmes
03-16-2013, 08:22 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-12/california-seizes-guns-as-owners-lose-right-to-bear-arms.html
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Wearing bulletproof vests and carrying 40-caliber Glock pistols, nine California (STOCA1) Justice Department agents assembled outside a ranch-style house in a suburb east of Los Angeles. They were looking for a gun owner who’d recently spent two days in a mental hospital.
They knocked on the door and asked to come in. About 45 minutes later, they came away peacefully with three firearms.
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Bawanna
03-16-2013, 11:36 AM
It's worth noting here that the 2 day mental visitors aren't the only ones these guys are after.
They are going after felons who have lost their gun rights who they know to have guns in the house either theirs illegally or spouses etc.
Nobody else really address's this. I still don't really support it or agree with it but as long as they are only going after legitimate felons or wacko's if there is a sure fire way to tell a wacko which I don't think there is other than my profiling skills, I'm ok with it.
Here if we arrest for a felon, we normally seize all their guns of course. Then allow them to sell them or dispose of them to legal buyers other than friends or relatives. Kind of weak but it's an effort.
chrish
03-16-2013, 12:40 PM
The article doesn't clarify whether she was (legally) adjudicated mentally unstable or not. The article doesn't clarify how she was involuntarily admitted to this facility. The fact that a nurse or doctor can do this, gun owner or not, is freakin' scary.
NOBODY should be held by any institution against their will w/o a court order and I'd go a step further and say a court order by a jury. Period. And for the gun owner, without that, you can't touch someone's firearms.
I'd be fighting this every step of the way. Definitely get the hell out of California, what a den of iniquity. That whole state is downright evil.
This path is the one I feel is most likely, outside of taxation, that will result in disarming the American public.
KoolBreeze
03-16-2013, 09:09 PM
Here if we arrest for a felon, we normally seize all their guns of course. Then allow them to sell them or dispose of them to legal buyers other than friends or relatives. Kind of weak but it's an effort.
You confiscate their weapons upon arrest? What happened to innocent until proven guilty in a court of law?
muggsy
03-16-2013, 10:17 PM
Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to convicted felons in possession of a gun. Convicted felons aren't allowed to possess guns by law.
Bawanna
03-16-2013, 10:32 PM
Even if they aren't a felon and they have a gun on them when they are arrested for a felony, we get the gun. If they are dismissed or not charged we give it back.
Often on a domestic violence arrest guns are taken as well. If cleared they get them back. At least we give them back if warranted even though sometimes we'd rather not. Some agencies don't.
KoolBreeze
03-16-2013, 11:30 PM
Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to convicted felons in possession of a gun. Convicted felons aren't allowed to possess guns by law.
That's true but he didn't say anything about them being "convicted" felons and I understood him to mean they had just been arrested for a felony. He clarified as much above. I would think the person would need to be convicted before they loose their right to own firearms. Seems a bit over the top to me.
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