Hello from new member and a question.

[JohnTz]

Hi everyone. I wanted to say hi and make my first post.

I am a proud new owner of a P380. I have not shot it yet as I just got it last night but look forward to breaking it in this weekend.

A couple observations. The gun looked well fired. It seems like many rounds were put down the barrel. I am pretty confident that it is new but was amazed at how dirty it was delivered. Is this normal?

Also does Kahr include any spent casing in the box? Mine did not have any.

Also I wanted to say thank you to the people behind this site. An amazing repository of information. I look forward to contributing as I get more experience with this pistol.

[ParrotHead]

They are normally test fired at the factory and shipped dirty. My CW9 did not have a spent case...I don't think Kahr normally does that like some others do.

[Bawanna]

I have been told that the guns are test fired at the factory, I was told they were cleaned afterwards on new guns. Repaired guns are tested and left dirty for return. This would make sense since they have no way of knowing how long they will sit at a distributor or on a dealer display case. Apparently missed yours.

Only some states require the spent case thing and the fact that you didn't get one is a very good thing. That indicates that your in a still relatively decent state.

Some manufacturers just simplify and include a spent casing with all guns since they sometimes don't know where they will end up, some don't.
It could be this was a batch on an order for a distributor in your state and they knew they weren't required so didn't mess with it.

Personally it's a complete waste of time in my opinion.

Welcome, glad you found us. Get to know your gun some before the range and all will be good.

[Flincher]

Welcome to the forum from North Dakota and a "smokin" P380 and CW9. Neither of my Kahrs had a spent case in the box.

[Tank]

Welcome JohnTz. Both my Kahrs (when new) came dripping in oil with evidence of being shot. I suppose they could have been cleaned before they were oiled, but by most peoples standards they wouldn't be considered clean. Neither one had any casings as I don't believe Kahr does that. I always thought that was kind of dumb, but I still don't throw away the cases companys send with a new gun either, I don't know why.

[JohnTz]

Thanks everyone. I was worried that I got a used gun as it was quit dirty but I guess they must fire them quit a bit to get the little 380 settled before they send them out. My serial number starts with RD so I think this is a recent one so should be a good one. Can't wait to take it to the range this weekend. I have many Glocks and HKs but I have to admit I am really excited about this little pistol.

[wyntrout]

Welcome to the forum, John. I have two of those little pistols and I believe they don't clean them as we would, but they do usually load them up with oil... more than I like.

Here are a bunch of links and info that might help you with your new pistol. Watch the video for your particular pistol, because too many people have not put them back together correctly and had "malfunctions".

Welcome to the Kahrtalk forum supported by K a h r Arms.
Here are a few essential links and things to do BEFORE you take your new pistol to the range, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE taking it apart and trying to re-assemble it! The Kahr is a different design… 6-7 unique patents cover the Kahrs. I’m not trying to imply that you don’t know anything about guns, but many don’t know anything about the Kahrs and some of the things you can do to damage or cause malfunctions of your new, or new-to-you Kahr pistol.

First, if you don’t have a manual, yet, or one didn’t come with your pistol, you can view it and/or download the pdf file here:
http://www.kahr.com/PDF/kahrmanual.pdf

Please watch one of these videos FIRST! These videos can point out possible problem areas and emphasize correct procedures!
Take down and re-assembly videos:
T, TP, CW, P, & PM/CM Series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=G2cZgVg_SwA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G2cZgVg_SwA)
MK series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...mSCnIOaUk#t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zXmSCnIOaUk#t=0s)
K series:
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-K9-Elite.asp
There are many links on fixing problems listed in several places… under the New Member or Kahr Tech sub-forums.

A very handy one is the Kahr Lubrication Diagram:
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14750
Many of your questions can be answered in these areas and you can learn how your Kahr works and not damage it with improper handling.

Another great resource for information on Kahrs... Archives of Magazine and Internet Reviews for Kahr pistols by industry experts. They test these pistols and report on their views and the ammo they tested in it. This is a good way to find ammo that might fit your needs along with accuracy and feeding in the pistol... usually from a rest with velocity and energy, as well as penetration and expansion sometimes... very informational.

http://www.kahr.com/product-reviews.asp

Frequently asked questions: http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp?

One very important bit of advice: Hold the Kahr pistol firmly when firing OR CHAMBERING a round. These compact pistols need all of the force they can get from the slide to get a round into the chamber successfully. If you don't hold the pistol firmly, part of the needed momentum is transferred to MOVING THE PISTOL and the top round will DIVE and jam into the right side of the feed ramp. The weak hand, over hand rack method gives the best grip and a firm rack will give you the best chance at chambering a round.

Use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear. Use the gun hand to simultaneously firmly push the gun as you give a vigorous rack with the weak hand and cleanly release the slide as it reaches the rear limit and is "snatched" from the weak hand. This approximates a real rack from firing and beats the slide release method WHEN executed properly. Much more strength can be exerted when this is done closer to the body.

Here's a video on that. The first part is what I'm talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hjLbFOw8sow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hjLbFOw8sow)

There are many helpful members here most of the time who might be able to help you, but as anywhere, there are many opinions and not all are correct. Be mindful of this before doing anything drastic to modify your pistol!


Wynn:)
Aka wyntrout

PS: I keep thinking of stuff to add and help new members... and am trying to cover most of the popular subjects. Yes, it's repetitious to many, but possibly not to all new members. This approach is easier than having to look up every tidbit for each new member or question that arises. :)

[JohnTz]

Thank you wyntrout!