Citizens with LE Ammo?

[Pfunk436]

I am wanting to ask my my buddy wife who is a cop to buy me some Speer Gold Dot SB LE. The ammo is only available to Police Officers. Is it illegal for me to own, loaded in my EDC or to be in possesion of this ammo purchased by Police Officers? I need to know before I ask her. She has offered me ammo in the past but this is different. Also can one tell me if there is a difference in the Speer Gold Dot SB LE vs Speer Gold Dot SB?

Thanks

[kahrseye]

I don't think it's a problem, at least not here in PA. Check your state laws. I think most of that stuff labeled LE is just for marketing purposes. I know LE gets a much better deal on ammo. I have alot of Hydra shoks labeled LE on the box.

[Bawanna]

I agree, it's mostly marketing.

Nothing ever produced for LE or military only ever seems to stay that way. The FN 5.7 has some rounds that are suppose to stay LE only but I suspect they'll get out. Sadly they are the only round that really makes that gun really great.

[phil413tx]

Most of mine are labeled LE on the box. I agree that every state could be different. It is just a marketing ploy.

[JFootin]

^^^Exactly. A marketing ploy. The only difference is that they are in 50 round boxes and can be bought for a little less per round. The supposedly non LE rounds are only in 20 round boxes. Kyle's Gun Shop always seems to have the LE 50 round boxes at good prices.

[Yogi 117]

^^^Exactly. A marketing ploy. The only difference is that they are in 50 round boxes and can be bought for a little less per round. The supposedly non LE rounds are only in 20 round boxes. Kyle's Gun Shop always seems to have the LE 50 round boxes at good prices.
What he says! 50 Round LE boxes of SD ammo is all I ever buy...beats the 20 round box prices. Buy it & enjoy! :D

[ripley16]

There are a few rounds that the BATF controls and are sold only to government or LE agencies. You'll never see them sold in a store. The LE labels on ammo you do see is the manufacturers way to separate "regular from high test".


The FN 5.7 has some rounds that are suppose to stay LE only but I suspect they'll get out.

I've never seen any bonded and controlled 5.7 or 4.6 ammo on the civilian market, and it's been in use for quite a while now. Not many people would risk a federal firearms felony for so little return I suspect.

[Salty]

LE ammo is hard for dealers to get in normal times so you don't see much on shelves for sale. In most cases, it is not regulated in sales by dealers - however you should check your local laws to make sure there are no local prohibitions. LE designation looks to me to be in part a marketing ploy, part a liability issue and part a price point issue. They designate it LE so they can sell a uniform "performance bullet" ammo. Pistol ammo is all about the bullet and powder charge. I don't value most of the LE designated ammo as any better than you can make yourself at less cost. If you have the time and interest I recommend you buy reloading equipment and roll you own for your self defense rounds.

[hotpig]

There are a few rounds that the BATF controls and are sold only to government or LE agencies. You'll never see them sold in a store. The LE labels on ammo you do see is the manufacturers way to separate "regular from high test".



I've never seen any bonded and controlled 5.7 or 4.6 ammo on the civilian market, and it's been in use for quite a while now. Not many people would risk a federal firearms felony for so little return I suspect.

They have a 5.7 LE only round that is AP so it is hard to come by. I sell Ranger, Federal Tactical, Gold Dot LE, Golden Saber Bonded LE, and Hornady LE ammo. I do not mess with that 5.7 load because it is regulated tightly.

[JFootin]

I do not mess with that 5.7 load because it is regulated tightly.

I think they do that because it can defeat body armor.

[hotpig]

I think they do that because it can defeat body armor.
Yes, like hot butter.

[Bawanna]

LE ammo is hard for dealers to get in normal times so you don't see much on shelves for sale. In most cases, it is not regulated in sales by dealers - however you should check your local laws to make sure there are no local prohibitions. LE designation looks to me to be in part a marketing ploy, part a liability issue and part a price point issue. They designate it LE so they can sell a uniform "performance bullet" ammo. Pistol ammo is all about the bullet and powder charge. I don't value most of the LE designated ammo as any better than you can make yourself at less cost. If you have the time and interest I recommend you buy reloading equipment and roll you own for your self defense rounds.

I reload nearly everything I shoot but I never ever carry reloads for self defense. Mostly on the theory that an attorney could make me into a make my own killing machine.
By using factory stuff if they ask what kind of ammo I can say the stuff the guy at the gun shop told me to use, I don't remember what it's called.
Probably a moot point and I'm not far from having to carry reloads since I can't find nor afford good carry stuff and I'm pretty low on carry inventory. Guess I could resort to carrying dept stuff if it comes down to it.

[hangdog]

I am wanting to ask my my buddy wife who is a cop to buy me some Speer Gold Dot SB LE. The ammo is only available to Police Officers. Is it illegal for me to own, loaded in my EDC or to be in possesion of this ammo purchased by Police Officers? I need to know before I ask her. She has offered me ammo in the past but this is different. Also can one tell me if there is a difference in the Speer Gold Dot SB LE vs Speer Gold Dot SB?

Thanks


Nothing much better than a female aquaintance with access to ammunition! :D

[RRP]

If you have the time and interest I recommend you buy reloading equipment and roll you own for your self defense rounds.

I agree that home-grown ammo can be more economical to shoot. But I would limit use to the range, only. Using handloads in a self-defense shooting will make your defense far more complicated.

My EDC will always be a stock pistol with high quality manufactured self-defense rounds.

[wyntrout]

It's probably like the regular Gold Dots... 50-round boxes for LE at lower cost and 20-round boxes for "civilian" use at double the price per round.

Wynn:)

[eireguy]

Hell,i still have Black Talons....

[jocko]

Hell,i still have Black Talons....

today they are sold as the SXT round. SAME EXACT THING.:Amflag2:

[eireguy]

I know, but mine are still in the bt box.(old huh?)

[RevRay]

I reload nearly everything I shoot but I never ever carry reloads for self defense. Mostly on the theory that an attorney could make me into a make my own killing machine. By using factory stuff if they ask what kind of ammo I can say the stuff the guy at the gun shop told me to use, I don't remember what it's called.

Or an attorney could just read your posts here on KahrTalk and discover for himself your true colors.

[Bawanna]

Or an attorney could just read your posts here on KahrTalk and discover for himself your true colors.

And now you know where my deep seated distaste for lawyers comes from.

We've reached a point where the truth will not set you free, it's no longer politically correct and you can't call a shovel a shovel for fear you'll offend the shovel, and all the shovels friend will call you biased or racist.

Shoot straight, speak the truth and avoid lawyers and range officers and shrinks and life will be good.

[gi1964]

Hell,i still have Black Talons....

LOL... I still have a box of the original BT.

I just purchased 2 boxes of Speer Gold Dot SOC (50 in Box). Supposed to fire even after 20 minutes underwater. I am assuming they are basically like my normal carry Gold Dots.