How often do you "flush" your "striker" channel?

[KahrOnTheFly]

OK, I am quite obsessive when caring for and maintaining my carry pistols (so I thought).

From the start, I followed the excellent recommendations on this forum for "Proper Prep of a New Kahr". One of the details was to spray GunScrubber (or similar) directly into the hole in the firing pin channel. Even when new, I was amazed how many metal particles washed out (probably from machining process).

Well recently, I was about 1000 rounds through my K40 and I decided to give it a full detail "prep" cleaning again. I had never flushed the firing pin channel since it was new. WHOLLY SMOKES! MY BAD! When I shot GunScrubber through the hole, flakes of brass and copper came POURING OUT. I kept spraying and spraying until no more metal flakes came out... I used about 1/3 of the darn can! Yes, there was that much junk in the firing pin channel.

Lesson Learned: I will be doing this firing pin channel "flush" about every 250 rounds from this point forward. (NOTE: I only shoot FMJ loads for practice at the range)

Thankfully, my K40 never had issues,... even with all of this junk in the FPC. I should have taken a photo of how much metal was on the paper towel. I was shocked...

Anyway, I thought I would just pass this on to everyone... if it has been some time since you flushed your FPCs, you might want to do it.

[7shot]

I probably have around 1000 rounds through my k9 and have never done a detail cleaning. I give it a normal cleaning after every target session and that's it, so far still shooting great...

[phil413tx]

Thanks for the heads up. It has been a while since I have done the FPC on mine.

[Yogi 117]

Did clean the FPC on my G26 after 2,000 rounds. Have over 500 rounds thru my CM9 & have to yet to clean the FPC. No ill affects on either! :D

Edit: As downtownv so eloquently stated, I correct my post to say Striker Channel...sometimes you just get caught up in the lingo being used. :eek:

[LorenzoB]

I've been giving about a 1-2 second spritz after each range session, or every other time if I don't shoot many rounds. This is probably overkill because it always comes out clean (except the very first time I did it during prep).

8141

[KahrOnTheFly]

I've been giving about a 1-2 second spritz after each range session, or every other time if I don't shoot many rounds. This is probably overkill because it always comes out clean (except the very first time I did it during prep).

8141

Thanks LorenzoB... I just bought a can of the CRC Brakleen (non-chlorinated) because I heard it was a much cheaper alternative to GunScrubber. I am gonna give it try the next time I flush.

[downtownv]

I did my k9 the first time it was full of junk. The second time 500-1000 rds later nothin of consequence
BTW it's called a striker channel, and striker. No firing pins on Kahrs.
Glad you''re enjoying these very reliable guns.

[muggsy]

Like downtownv says in every post, "The loudest sound in the world is a click when you're expecting a bang." I use brakkeen after every range session to clean the firing pin channel. I use my Kahrs for self defense and in a SHTF situation, I want them to go bang. Once a year I detail strip and clean the slide. I do not lubricate the firing pin channel as the owners manual says it's a no no. I believe that the man who designed and manufactures the gun knows more about it that I do, but that's just me. You guys are free to be as foolish as you want to be.

[ripley16]

I've done all of my Kahrs once, to do a Militec-1 treatment, and then left it alone. IMHO, it is less important than the level of emphasis placed on it. I suspect you could shoot many thousands or even tens of thousands of rounds without mishap.

[QuercusMax]

Well recently, I was about 1000 rounds through my K40 and I decided to give it a full detail "prep" cleaning again. I had never flushed the firing pin channel since it was new. WHOLLY SMOKES! MY BAD! When I shot GunScrubber through the hole, flakes of brass and copper came POURING OUT. I kept spraying and spraying until no more metal flakes came out... I used about 1/3 of the darn can! Yes, there was that much junk in the firing pin channel.

Lesson Learned: I will be doing this firing pin channel "flush" about every 250 rounds from this point forward. (NOTE: I only shoot FMJ loads for practice at the range)

Thankfully, my K40 never had issues,... even with all of this junk in the FPC. I should have taken a photo of how much metal was on the paper towel. I was shocked...

Anyway, I thought I would just pass this on to everyone... if it has been some time since you flushed your FPCs, you might want to do it.

I had the same experience when I first cleaned the striker channel on my MK9 at ~1000 rds.

What I don't know is whether that accumulation of metal is something that happens mostly when the gun is new, or if it keeps happening all the time. There are many people here with a lot more rounds through their Kahrs who might be able to say for sure.

I don't want to be like that guy I used to know who told me that he only changed the oil on his car "rarely" because the car seemed to be running fine, and it was a lot cheaper to just add a quart every so often than to drain and refill.

[jocko]

OK, I am quite obsessive when caring for and maintaining my carry pistols (so I thought).

From the start, I followed the excellent recommendations on this forum for "Proper Prep of a New Kahr". One of the details was to spray GunScrubber (or similar) directly into the hole in the firing pin channel. Even when new, I was amazed how many metal particles washed out (probably from machining process).

Well recently, I was about 1000 rounds through my K40 and I decided to give it a full detail "prep" cleaning again. I had never flushed the firing pin channel since it was new. WHOLLY SMOKES! MY BAD! When I shot GunScrubber through the hole, flakes of brass and copper came POURING OUT. I kept spraying and spraying until no more metal flakes came out... I used about 1/3 of the darn can! Yes, there was that much junk in the firing pin channel.

Lesson Learned: I will be doing this firing pin channel "flush" about every 250 rounds from this point forward. (NOTE: I only shoot FMJ loads for practice at the range)

Thankfully, my K40 never had issues,... even with all of this junk in the FPC. I should have taken a photo of how much metal was on the paper towel. I was shocked...

Anyway, I thought I would just pass this on to everyone... if it has been some time since you flushed your FPCs, you might want to do it.

Once u get that striker channel cleaned correctly with IMO a detailed strip at least one time to be damn sure everything is out of that striker channel. then if u use that little clean out hole that wills uffice, and I would make that part of every cleaning u give the gun also. Just how long does it take to insert that nozzle in that hole and spray away???5 secnds, 10 seconds?? Its not rocket science. Every gun is perfecrt until it fails to fire that first time, so if ur gonna clean the barrel, why miss the striker channel. The barrel can get dirty as hell and still work OK, u never know about the striker channel.

error on the side of caution. :Amflag2:

[JimC]

I don't flush the FP channel on the slide of my PM9.
When I feel my pistol has been fired enough to be dirty enough, I completely strip the slide and clean it and the component parts individually and re-assemble. This may be as much as 3-4 times a year.
I leave nothing to worry about when it comes to the pistol that I may carry for SD.

[Bawanna]

That's pretty much what I do as well. I took mine apart brand new just to see what people were talking about when they flushed theirs out. Both of mine were squeaky clean and lightly oiled.

I just occasionally take them down and clean and verify all is well.

As stated I think they will go a long long way with no attention at all but a little precaution just improves the chances of that happening.

[muggsy]

I believe that the little flakes of metal in the striker channel come from primer smear. If the flakes are allowed to accumulate the result can be light primer strikes. Like I said, I want my carry gun to go bang when needed. Cleanliness is next to Godliness. If it's good enough for "Old Jocko" it's good enough for me.

[jocko]

Iguess my point is , why only clean 80% of the gun when IMO one of the most important areas is the striker channel and I wold tend to agree Muggsy, some of that build up could definitely be primer smear. every gun has itsw own personality, some will let one get away withy far more abuse or neglect than others will My range gun might indeed go a few times with uttin done to it but my pocket gun that I carry 24/7 is always clean inside and out. Just my 21 cents worth on this. Remember its ur gun..

[wyntrout]

I think that due to the dynamics of the firing and the cartridges being knocked about violently during chambering and firing, you can get bits of metal from the bullet, the case, AND the primer strike/smearing BLOWN back through the striker pin hole, the hole on the bottom of the slide, and from the back of the slide that opens toward the frame. Crap is blown everywhere and I've gotten photo stills from videos of my pistols firing with flaming stuff coming from out of the slide to frame areas... sides and rear! As I said then, that's why eye protection is so important!:eek:

Wynn:)

[KahrOnTheFly]

I did my k9 the first time it was full of junk. The second time 500-1000 rds later nothin of consequence
BTW it's called a striker channel, and striker. No firing pins on Kahrs.
Glad you''re enjoying these very reliable guns.

downtownv,... thanks for enlightening me on the proper term of the firing mechanism in Kahr pistols. "Striker Channel" I got it. I continue to learn from this great board. Thanks again!

[jocko]

u gotta listen to downtown, he is one wiser fokker. Just askhim!!!

Just sayin

[downtownv]

u gotta listen to downtown, he is one wiser fokker. Just askhim!!!

Just sayin
Thanks Jocko I mentioned that on YOUR behalf knowing you would rather not have typed it!:bump2:

[b4uqzme]

+1 on flushing the striker channel. I recently purchased 2 metal Kahrs with scratchy triggers. Flushing the striker channel cured both to the smooth trigger I expected. I had to soak them in cleaner and re- flush them several times. Each time produced more gunk. Like Jocko I figure this is an easy add to my cleaning routine.

[Ikeo74]

I don't oil my striker channel or spring. I watch my fired cases to see how deep the indentation is on the primers. As long as the indentation indicates the striker is hitting hard, I don't worry about cleaning out the channel. So far after around 400 rounds in 2 different guns I have never had a problem. If it ain't broke I see no need to fix it. Just my opinion.

[RRP]

I don't oil my striker channel or spring. I watch my fired cases to see how deep the indentation is on the primers. As long as the indentation indicates the striker is hitting hard, I don't worry about cleaning out the channel. So far after around 400 rounds in 2 different guns I have never had a problem. If it ain't broke I see no need to fix it. Just my opinion.

Interesting.

I'm curious, do you change the oil in your car as part of regular maintenance, or do you wait for the engine to start knocking between oil changes?

From my POV, a quick squirt of solvent into the clean-out hole, every time I clean my pistol, is good maintenance.

[Ikeo74]

Interesting.

I'm curious, do you change the oil in your car as part of regular maintenance, or do you wait for the engine to start knocking between oil changes?

From my POV, a quick squirt of solvent into the clean-out hole, every time I clean my pistol, is good maintenance.
I wait for the light to come on that says: Change oil soon.......So far I have 90,000 miles with no knocks.;)

[RRP]

I wait for the light to come on that says: Change oil soon.......So far I have 90,000 miles with no knocks.;)

Good comeback, Ikeo.

I hope the warning light never burns out. :D

[cjm2022]

is it ok to use CLP to flush out the striker channel?

i have been and so far no problems but i only have abut 700 rounds through the gun

[jocko]

spray away

[Buckshotshorty]

I must be quite honest here and say that spraying gun scrubber into the striker hole goes counter to everything I have heard or read on every forum I've ever belonged to, and I've been a shooter for many,many years.

I've always read that proper maintenance requires one to disassemble the slide, and after cleaning the striker channel only a very light coat of oil will suffice. Glock people even say skip the oil, and run it totally dry to keep gunk from accumulating.

I think those of you who do the whole disassembly are on the right track, although those that spray into the striker hole are not reporting problems because of that.

[Bawanna]

Essentially those that spray are doing as you suggest the Glock guys do.

It flushes out debri etc, then it evaporates and leaves the channel and striker dry.

Disassembly is a fine and wonderful thing but not really necessary on routine cleaning. I do mine when new to insure everything is clean and in order and rarely do so after that. I also never spray either and so far have no issues.

I semi believe that concerns about the striker and striker channel are over rated frankly. If there is a problem it will probably be when new and perhaps debri left behind from manufacturing, once it's cleaned I doubt one will see much accumulation that can't be handled with an annual or even bi annual inspection.

[jocko]

I must be quite honest here and say that spraying gun scrubber into the striker hole goes counter to everything I have heard or read on every forum I've ever belonged to, and I've been a shooter for many,many years.

I've always read that proper maintenance requires one to disassemble the slide, and after cleaning the striker channel only a very light coat of oil will suffice. Glock people even say skip the oil, and run it totally dry to keep gunk from accumulating.

I think those of you who do the whole disassembly are on the right track, although those that spray into the striker hole are not reporting problems because of that.

Here is my 21 cents worth. U do what ever you want to do with YOUR gun I tis yours, so take what we say or what all your past experience tells you and just do it your way. Going back 15 or 20 years means nadda today. Guns have changed,materials have changed. Not to many ol dstyle great semi's that I know of even had that little clean out hole, which is exactly what it it.

I see nuttin wrong with taking the slide all the way apart, but from my experience with my 3 kahrs, I have taken them down one time only and that wass to install the 5# strker spring.

Do you totlly dissasemble the lower portion of thegun every time??? Just askin for crapola could get into the striker block area, or the cocking cam area and cause screw ups??? I know of no one here thgat does that but again it is everyone personal call to make to. Not arguin with u as u might thing but u posted ur p\opinion, now you have mine, for what it is worth.

[LorenzoB]

.... I've always read that proper maintenance requires one to disassemble the slide, and after cleaning the striker channel only a very light coat of oil will suffice. Glock people even say skip the oil, and run it totally dry to keep gunk from accumulating.....

My thought on this is that if you detail strip those parts and oil them, or you spray oil (or any lubricant) in the clean out hole, it will just cause faster accumulation of debris in the striker channel. So, just like you said, this is why the Glock people say run it dry.

Now, the Kahr manual even says not dismantle the gun further than the main components (ie. "field strip"). So if that is the case, then your only "official" method of getting gunk out of the striker channel is to use the clean out hole. But the key is to use something that will evaporate and leave it clean and dry. I use non-chlorinated brake clean because it has a lot of spray pressure, it is a degreaser, it evaporates and leaves no residue for gunk to stick to.

I am not opposed to a detail strip. I have done it once already after a few hundred rounds, and once I saw how clean the striker was, now I am convinced that what I am doing works very well.

[jocko]

amen!

I would add also when I first cameon this forum when they started it back 100 years ago.no one ever mentioned or mayb e even knew what that little hole was eve. Once it got out people spread the word alot. I see it on other forum now being mentioned about glocks etc. One has to remember the biggest percentage of owners know jack sh!t about their guns and good gun forums are what makes their life muchy easier with learning gun knowledge.

I have always felt that kahr should even put in their manual a notation about that little hole being a good clean out hole etc. IMO it might sure same some non forum person alot of greif with possable light strikes etc becuase of factory crud or shaving still left inside the striker channel.

I have no doubt one that channel is cleaner right the first time, it will give little or no issues even if u do uttin but that clean out hole is there for one to use--so why not??? Just sayin

[Tinman507]

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[Tank]

Here's a related issue I had. I had shot and cleaned my T40 about 1 month before this, this included blowing out the stricker channel but not oiling it. I had everything else oiled or greased up. I had the gun out and worked the slide, dropped mags and basically played with it about weekly but I store it empty.

Went to chamber a round using the slide release method and noticed a shutter and slow close for about the last 1/8" or so. Unloaded the gun and took my usual P380 with me. As soon as I got home I recleaned the gun thinking I probably had excesive grease on the rails or perhaps not enough in the right spots. I didn't blow out the striker channel though. Re-assembled thinking I must have fixed it with a (possibly) more through oil/grease job.

Apon retrying the slide release method for chabering a round I got same shutter. So on the next field strip I start checking every moving part, mainly consintarting on the slide area. Couldn't find any hangups or rubbing with the slides, barrel, spring guide. I moved the striker back and whala...

The striker return was a slow, shuttering, jerky metal on metal movement. I blew the channel out good but didn't see anything come out. A drop of Rem-oil and it was working like a million bucks.

Since then I blow the channel out every time after shooting and give it 1 drop of oil. I haven't ever had a light strike or failure to close completly with either Kahr since I stated oiling the striker.

I would recommend trying this on your own gun. See if the striker slides and returns better dry or with 1 drop of oil. This could vary from model to model and even gun to gun and you can always blow the oil out if you don't like it.

[jhertzler]

Since then I blow the channel out every time after shooting and give it 1 drop of oil. I haven't ever had a light strike or failure to close completly with either Kahr since I stated oiling the striker.

I would recommend trying this on your own gun. See if the striker slides and returns better dry or with 1 drop of oil. This could vary from model to model and even gun to gun and you can always blow the oil out if you don't like it.[/QUOTE]

Somehow, it runs against my grain to run gun parts completely dry. I agree with the light oil approach, though I don't do a drop of oil every time. I have stripped and cleaned the striker channel and striker on both by CW9 and CW45. When clean and dry, I put just a little spray of Remoil, which is very thin, on the striker. Works great and hopefully unlikely to accumulate gunk. I'll run them a long time with no spraying or oiling from here on out.

jrh

[Alfonse]

I flush after every use. It is the polite thing to do.

After spraying out the hole with brake cleaner (those cans really blast with some power), I do a very light spritz of CLP in there too. I then move everything I can by hand and make sure it is all nice and smooth.

I usually shoot a box of ammo most times at the range with the PM9 a couple of times a month.

So, I flush after each use, whether number 1 or number 2.

[Buckshotshorty]

Here is my 21 cents worth. U do what ever you want to do with YOUR gun I tis yours, so take what we say or what all your past experience tells you and just do it your way. Going back 15 or 20 years means nadda today. Guns have changed,materials have changed. Not to many ol dstyle great semi's that I know of even had that little clean out hole, which is exactly what it it.

I see nuttin wrong with taking the slide all the way apart, but from my experience with my 3 kahrs, I have taken them down one time only and that wass to install the 5# strker spring.

Do you totlly dissasemble the lower portion of thegun every time??? Just askin for crapola could get into the striker block area, or the cocking cam area and cause screw ups??? I know of no one here thgat does that but again it is everyone personal call to make to. Not arguin with u as u might thing but u posted ur p\opinion, now you have mine, for what it is worth.


I am a seasoned shooter; aka old fart, but not too Old to learn a new trick. Can you please tell me what stuff you spray, where this clean out hole is that everyone is talking about?

[jocko]

I am a seasoned shooter; aka old fart, but not too Old to learn a new trick. Can you please tell me what stuff you spray, where this clean out hole is that everyone is talking about?

Kahr Lube Diagram. This sticky is 3rd down on the kahr tech section. It is the best ofthe best for propper lubbing of ur gun. Look at #9, right to the left of that, u can see that holeon the bottom of the slide. That my friend is ur clean out hole that feeds directly into the striker channel.

the propper prepping of ur kahr sticky also tells you how to use that little cleanout hole, so I won't bothe rto repeat myself on that , u can read and get tyhe point real fast.


I recommend non chorlorinated brake cleaners that normaly walmart or any auto store sells. I like the 3M brand non cholorinated spray cleaner, as it is for me the most power ful spray I have ever used. It will blow sh!t out where maybe normal spray will not. the nice thing is these non cholornated cleaners are polymer freiendly.. they won't melt ur kahr or glock. Most any cleaner that is worth its sale and that includes guns crubber by Birchwood which is good stuff but IMO very expensive compared to the avove auto spra cleaners. Is that all cleaners are not good for wood grips or painted on sights, so be careful in that area with any cleaner. Everyone has their own spray cleaners tha tthery like, I only recommend what I am usng, but I feel any of these over the conter gun spra cleaners are as good as gold, just IMO well over priced. The nice thing about the high pressure spray non cholorinated brake cleaners is that it drys instandlty and if there are areas u clean that you normaly oil, then indeed reoil in that area for these cleaners will clean down to the metal, course I think tha tis what we clean a gun for to TO CLEAN

well ol fart, goin the club, I am normaly called an ol goat but here is a story to that, but one has tob e an ol fart beforee he can be an ol goat. So I have bee there, done that....

I think sometimes we make cleaning gun and I mean all guns seem like rocket science, andIMO it is simple as shooting a 9mm jround right between the eyes of a goat at 3 yards. Just sayin

[Bawanna]

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=308

The lower arrow on # 9 is pointing right at the clean out hole.

Non Clorinated brake cleaner seems to be the cleaner of choice.

Its the same as gun scrubber basically just a lot cheaper.

[Bawanna]

Wow, Jocko is wicked quick today. Must have had his Malt O Meal for breakfast.

[jocko]

I flush after every use. It is the polite thing to do.

After spraying out the hole with brake cleaner (those cans really blast with some power), I do a very light spritz of CLP in there too. I then move everything I can by hand and make sure it is all nice and smooth.

I usually shoot a box of ammo most times at the range with the PM9 a couple of times a month.

So, I flush after each use, whether number 1 or number 2.

was a kid, we never flushed, we just,, when full,, slide the sh!tter 10 feet left or right, dug anutter hole and crapped away. One could normally tell in my neighbor hood how long a family had lived in that home etc, buy the distance the sh!tter was from the home. the further away the more seniority that family had on our block. . If u had 2 or more sears-roebuck homes, then u were considered elite and wealthy. We were very poor in my younger days and didn't warrant even one sears home, so we held off till late at night and then sneaked over to one of the elitest neighbors sears homes and did our thing:7: Never ever got caught either, so like cleaning a gun, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Just sayin

semper vulgare:7:

[jocko]

Wow, Jocko is wicked quick today. Must have had his Malt O Meal for breakfast.

thank u colonel for posting that sticky for me. I tried but failed and I am yet to the post count that allows me to post photos. I still don'tunderstand how this is though as I get within 1 post of beng able to post some of ol jockos finest photos and BINGO I get popped back 800 posts and have to start all over. I thought for awhile (now going on 4 years) that it was a computer glitch, but I being a slow learner am now thinkinb some one is ganging up on ol jocko and thaey don't want his hoto album on this forum. Just sayin.

[Bawanna]

Well I for one would love to see your album. I'm not part of the alleged conspiracy, some will say I am part of the problem or perhaps all of the problem but I have no solution. Don't have time to figure one out focusing on being a problem all the time.

[Buckshotshorty]

Kahr Lube Diagram. This sticky is 3rd down on the kahr tech section. It is the best ofthe best for propper lubbing of ur gun. Look at #9, right to the left of that, u can see that holeon the bottom of the slide. That my friend is ur clean out hole that feeds directly into the striker channel.

the propper prepping of ur kahr sticky also tells you how to use that little cleanout hole, so I won't bothe rto repeat myself on that , u can read and get tyhe point real fast.


I recommend non chorlorinated brake cleaners that normaly walmart or any auto store sells. I like the 3M brand non cholorinated spray cleaner, as it is for me the most power ful spray I have ever used. It will blow sh!t out where maybe normal spray will not. the nice thing is these non cholornated cleaners are polymer freiendly.. they won't melt ur kahr or glock. Most any cleaner that is worth its sale and that includes guns crubber by Birchwood which is good stuff but IMO very expensive compared to the avove auto spra cleaners. Is that all cleaners are not good for wood grips or painted on sights, so be careful in that area with any cleaner. Everyone has their own spray cleaners tha tthery like, I only recommend what I am usng, but I feel any of these over the conter gun spra cleaners are as good as gold, just IMO well over priced. The nice thing about the high pressure spray non cholorinated brake cleaners is that it drys instandlty and if there are areas u clean that you normaly oil, then indeed reoil in that area for these cleaners will clean down to the metal, course I think tha tis what we clean a gun for to TO CLEAN

well ol fart, goin the club, I am normaly called an ol goat but here is a story to that, but one has tob e an ol fart beforee he can be an ol goat. So I have bee there, done that....

I think sometimes we make cleaning gun and I mean all guns seem like rocket science, andIMO it is simple as shooting a 9mm jround right between the eyes of a goat at 3 yards. Just sayin

Thanks so much Jocko that's exactly what I was looking for.

[Bawanna]

thank u colonel for posting that sticky for me. I tried but failed and I am yet to the post count that allows me to post photos. I still don'tunderstand how this is though as I get within 1 post of beng able to post some of ol jockos finest photos and BINGO I get popped back 800 posts and have to start all over. I thought for awhile (now going on 4 years) that it was a computer glitch, but I being a slow learner am now thinkinb some one is ganging up on ol jocko and thaey don't want his hoto album on this forum. Just sayin.

They don't call ya the Perpetual New Guy for nothing I reckon.

[JFootin]

thank u colonel for posting that sticky for me. I tried but failed and I am yet to the post count that allows me to post photos. I still don'tunderstand how this is though as I get within 1 post of beng able to post some of ol jockos finest photos and BINGO I get popped back 800 posts and have to start all over. I thought for awhile (now going on 4 years) that it was a computer glitch, but I being a slow learner am now thinkinb some one is ganging up on ol jocko and thaey don't want his hoto album on this forum. Just sayin.

I think if truth be known Jocko has over 32,000 posts. But then everybody stopped counting. Just sayin'.

[pineappleshooter]

I think if truth be known Jocko has over 32,000 posts. But then eveybody stopped counting. Just sayin'.

If jocko fired as many rounds as he does posts, his (self-proclaimed) poor shooting would be WAAAAYYYYYY better!:D

[ParabellumJ]

I do a basic field strip and clean after every range session and never spray anything but compressed air into the firing pin channel on any of my pistols. Every 1000 rounds I completely disassemble the slide and do a detail slide cleaning. I have never had a pistol malfunction due to lack of maintenance.

[muggsy]

I don't see anything wrong with putting a light coat of oil inside of the striker channel if cleaning the striker channel is a part of your routine maintenance. Two problems could occur. If you oil with a penetrating oil you could contaminate the primer of the chambered round. If you don't clean regularly the oil could turn into a gum or varnish and debris could cause light strikes. Clean and dry will stay clean and dry. I routinely clean my guns after every range session and have never had a gun fail to fire when needed.

[godan]

I do a basic field strip and clean after every range session and never spray anything but compressed air into the firing pin channel on any of my pistols. Every 1000 rounds I completely disassemble the slide and do a detail slide cleaning. I have never had a pistol malfunction due to lack of maintenance.

Every 1000 rounds is a good guideline and a safe practice. I might do it a bit more often with 1911's. I once took a G22 to an advanced Gunsite course where we fired about 1400 rounds in a very dusty environment and then directly to John Farnam's Instructor Course where we did another 1200. I didn't clean or lubricate the gun at all and it worked fine, but that was just for the try, and I had a couple of other prepared Glock 40's in the range bag, just in case. You are also right about keeping the firing pin channel dry.

[jocko]

today I took a 82 year old lady friend out to shoot my handguns on her birthday, We shot my Ruger MK11 and she did great, no issues. Then I pulled oput my K9 and loaded it and showed her what to do and she aimed and nuttin. I thought WTF, so I tried it and it went bang,. Handed it back to her and again nutting. . She could not pull the triger, she didn't have the finger strength to do so. that was the issue. So my lesson learned here is when someone comes on here and posts that my kahr is f real fokker to rack or clear, maybe we should also ask how old u are, for age does play a factor in racking a kahr, as they are stout puppies indeed and some lder people don't realize the loss of hand/finger strength. Just sayin

I have been PM-ing witha fellow member here who has been having trouble clearing his kahr of a live round, which we have all give him some great advice but to realy no success. I now find out he is 70 and his hand strength is just not that great.

I think this has been a question that most of us just take for granite that anyone shold be abl eto hand rack, hand clear a kahr, and some just cannot, and this ol lady today proved tome that a 8# trigger pull was even to much for her. It is hell to get old fellas, don't ask ol jocko how he knows.

I swear the seatr height of my Harley is growing every day for I am having more trouuble every day throwing a leg over that fokker.

I have tried that ol roy Rogers mount crapola a few times where he runs and jumps on the back of his horse right into the saddle. My problem is my sissy bar on my bike seems to wanna grab my two little dried up boys and there I hang until someone helps me off . Yes it is hell to get old. Just sayin

[AIRret]

Hey Jocko, strength is an issue as we grow older but also with medical issues.

HOWEVER, another complicating factor can be hand size. If a person has a small hand (most women and some men) and can not get an ideal/proper finger on the trigger they actually need more strength to pull the trigger.
All this can also cause the shots for a right handed person to drift left. i.e. they will press somewhat on the side of the trigger and not directly in the middle.

[phil413tx]

Jocko, you and that sissy bar just made me cringe and hurt a little...

[yqtszhj]

today I took a 82 year old lady friend out to shoot my handguns on her birthday, We shot my Ruger MK11 and she did great, no issues. Then I pulled oput my K9 and loaded it and showed her what to do and she aimed and nuttin. I thought WTF, so I tried it and it went bang,. Handed it back to her and again nutting. . She could not pull the triger, she didn't have the finger strength to do so. that was the issue. So my lesson learned here is when someone comes on here and posts that my kahr is f real fokker to rack or clear, maybe we should also ask how old u are, for age does play a factor in racking a kahr, as they are stout puppies indeed and some lder people don't realize the loss of hand/finger strength. Just sayin

I have been PM-ing witha fellow member here who has been having trouble clearing his kahr of a live round, which we have all give him some great advice but to realy no success. I now find out he is 70 and his hand strength is just not that great.

I think this has been a question that most of us just take for granite that anyone shold be abl eto hand rack, hand clear a kahr, and some just cannot, and this ol lady today proved tome that a 8# trigger pull was even to much for her. It is hell to get old fellas, don't ask ol jocko how he knows.

I swear the seatr height of my Harley is growing every day for I am having more trouuble every day throwing a leg over that fokker.

I have tried that ol roy Rogers mount crapola a few times where he runs and jumps on the back of his horse right into the saddle. My problem is my sissy bar on my bike seems to wanna grab my two little dried up boys and there I hang until someone helps me off . Yes it is hell to get old. Just sayin

Very good post there Jocko.

I guess when I get older I'll switch to a revolver (I'll make it a 9mm one as a tribute to Jocko.)