View Full Version : PM45 range report post repair
hsart
04-11-2010, 07:36 PM
Had my PM45 back to Kahr for a few problems involving feeding and ejection after 900 rounds. Got the gun back four days after I sent it to Kahr. Now have about 250 rounds through it post repair of a new ejector, new extractor, and polished feed ramp. Gun is nearly flawless and super accurate. I ran 50 rounds through it today (10 rounds PMC 230gr FMJ and 40 rounds Federal 230gr JHP. Something happened today that has never happened to me before with is gun - twice the first round in a magazine with the JHPs failed to chamber after loading with the slide lock lever as per Kahr manual. I got a click both time, ran the slide back to lock position and tried again and it fired both times. Had a couple of slide lockbacks which I attribute to user error - either hand fatigue or perhaps my thumb hitting the slide lock lever after firing. This is one fine firearm for a 45 caliber EDC. I have noticed that the gun likes to run a bit wet - I add a little extra grease (currently using TW25b) and the PM45 seems to like it.
In-Yo-Grill
04-12-2010, 06:54 AM
I've heard of that grease before. Do you have any idea of where I can get a hold of some?
Regards...
hsart
04-12-2010, 10:52 AM
I've heard of that grease before. Do you have any idea of where I can get a hold of some?
Regards...
It's Mil-comm TW25B. Great stuff. I got mine at Midway. I think Amazon also has it as well as many other gun gear suppliers. Or at the manufacturer.
Mil-Comm Products - TW-25B – synthetic lubricant protectant grease or oil for firearms, fishing reels, locks and hardware. - Home (http://www.mil-comm.com/)
Bawanna
04-12-2010, 11:01 AM
I know Brownells has it also. They also have oil. I've got some on order as I haven't tried it before. Rumor has it the syringe is quite convenient for applying to the rails and such. I believe this is a Jocko favorite and with all the rounds he's put thru that PM9, it must be good stuff.
In-Yo-Grill
04-12-2010, 11:08 AM
I've been using a reel grease called "Hot Sauce". Made by Qauntum. They make an oil also and I'm wanting to get some to try it out. So far it seems to do the trick.
How much grease are you supposed to apply?
Bawanna
04-12-2010, 11:18 AM
I've been using a reel grease called "Hot Sauce". Made by Qauntum. They make an oil also and I'm wanting to get some to try it out. So far it seems to do the trick.
How much grease are you supposed to apply?
Different schools of thought on how much to apply. I'm probably guilty of too much. I remember at Beretta armorer class they actually had a picture of what they considered the proper size of a drop of oil. Thought that was a bit over the top. I just like to coat the surface of the rails with grease so they're covered but not build up if you follow my current. A drop of oil on wear spots, and the recommended locations. Again I think it's personal preference or whatever works for you. Several around here are all paranoid about not getting oil anywhere near ammo. Refuse to put any oil on magazines etc. I oil em inside and out, the mag well everywhere and then wipe it all off. I figure with modern ammo mostly all sealed up, if your ammo is being compromised by oil or moisture your not shooting enough. Never ever had a problem with dead primers or ruined ammo. Oil is good.
In-Yo-Grill
04-12-2010, 12:06 PM
Different schools of thought on how much to apply. I'm probably guilty of too much. I remember at Beretta armorer class they actually had a picture of what they considered the proper size of a drop of oil. Thought that was a bit over the top. I just like to coat the surface of the rails with grease so they're covered but not build up if you follow my current. A drop of oil on wear spots, and the recommended locations. Again I think it's personal preference or whatever works for you. Several around here are all paranoid about not getting oil anywhere near ammo. Refuse to put any oil on magazines etc. I oil em inside and out, the mag well everywhere and then wipe it all off. I figure with modern ammo mostly all sealed up, if your ammo is being compromised by oil or moisture your not shooting enough. Never ever had a problem with dead primers or ruined ammo. Oil is good.
I'm lathering myself up as we speak...:2eek:
I put a dab of grease on the frame right in front of the rails. That way when I put the slide back on it pushes the grease down and coats the slide rails. Other than that I've been using BreakFree CLP to oil up the rest. So far so good but if there's a better way I'm open to change.
Bawanna
04-12-2010, 12:26 PM
I'm lathering myself up as we speak...:2eek:
I put a dab of grease on the frame right in front of the rails. That way when I put the slide back on it pushes the grease down and coats the slide rails. Other than that I've been using BreakFree CLP to oil up the rest. So far so good but if there's a better way I'm open to change.
I'm surprised we haven't heard from Dietrich here. All I can think of is getting all oiled up and slingshoted over the correctional institutions perimeter fence. Not good, I have to maintain some distance here. Which also brings up the idea of body lube, TY, RY, somethin why, wonder what's in it and if it would work for guns? Doubt it, would almost have to be water soluable wouldn't ya think. Not worth thinking of, stick with the TW25 and call it a day.
hsart
04-12-2010, 12:37 PM
I've been using a reel grease called "Hot Sauce". Made by Qauntum. They make an oil also and I'm wanting to get some to try it out. So far it seems to do the trick.
How much grease are you supposed to apply?
As long as you follow the Kahr lube diagram you can't go wrong. I tend to use a tiny bit more than you would intuitively use and it works like a charm. The lube stays in place. I clean and lube after every range trip now. Totally different from my Glocks where I lube every 200-300 rounds or so. I have heard stories of some Glocks running 100,000+ rounds in between cleanings without a failure - don't know whether this is true.
In-Yo-Grill
04-12-2010, 12:42 PM
I've never owned a Glock but will one day just to say I had. They just don't fit my hands very well.
Bawanna
04-12-2010, 01:22 PM
Glocks like to run dry. They do seem to run an awfully long time without any cleaning of any kind. I don't test this, I also clean every trip to the range. I was a a sportsman show in Seattle when Glocks first hit the US. They had a 17 in a glass case with a hopper and a feed system that continually fed that thing. I don't recall how often if fired but probably every 15 seconds or so. It fired continuously for the 4 days of the show without being touched. It was a huge hopper like a 30 gallon drum and they had a truck load of ammo standing by to fill as it depleted. You could hear the shots all over the show. Back when they had good shows. Now days it's all fishing stuff.
wyntrout
04-12-2010, 10:17 PM
One thing I do with oil, is try to sling it off... the excess... in a safe direction... and carefully... don't want to crack the Tupperware!:eek:
I usually do this into a trashcan or on some newspaper. I'm not talking a LOT of oil, either. I drop one drop on the trigger spring and them fling the excess off... the same for the trigger bar/track after I work the trigger.
I like using the non-chlorinated brake cleaner spray in the slide hole. I give it a good squirt there while pulling the striker thingies back so that anything in there shoots out the back. Then I sling the heck out of the slide and gun while outside to get rid of most of the spray. that stuff is nasty... dangerous in many ways. read the label!:eek:
After using that stuff and letting the gun dry, you need to relubricate all that stuff.
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