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patrick
04-10-2013, 08:18 AM
Hello all,I am new here and have a some questions.I recently acquired a CM9 and am wondering about long term reliability of it.I fired some where between 120 and 150 rounds through it on Saturday.Besides one 147 grain HP not chambering right away and one time the slide locked back with rounds left in the mag (I'm sure I got my big fat thumb on the slide stop) it functioned perfectly.My question is barring it blowing up like the the guy posted about yesterday (I'm sure it was bad ammo),what kind of life expectancy do these pistols have?I really like it and hope to have it for a long time.

wyntrout
04-10-2013, 09:39 AM
Unless you do something really harmful to the pistol, it should last virtually "forever". Jocko has one that he's put over 32K rounds through. Over time the recoil spring needs replacing, but I wait until I have problems before doing replacements. It depends on how often you shoot the pistol. We hear from 1,200 to 1,500 rounds before replacing the recoil spring... then just replace the outer one... cheaper and effective. You can get 3-packs of springs at Wolff Springs more cheaply. They make Kahrs springs and sell a lot of springs of different strengths as well.

Oh! Welcome to the forum and here's my collection of info and links for new members:

Welcome to the Kahrtalk forum supported by K a h r Arms.
Here are a few essential links and things to do BEFORE you take your new pistol to the range, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE taking it apart and trying to re-assemble it! The Kahr is a different design… 6-7 unique patents cover the Kahrs. I’m not trying to imply that you don’t know anything about guns, but many don’t know anything about the Kahrs and some of the things you can do to damage or cause malfunctions of your new, or new-to-you Kahr pistol.

First, if you don’t have a manual, yet, or one didn’t come with your pistol, you can view it and/or download the pdf file here:
http://www.kahr.com/PDF/kahrmanual.pdf

Please watch one of these videos FIRST! These videos can point out possible problem areas and emphasize correct procedures!
Take down and re-assembly videos:
T, TP, CW, P, & PM/CM Series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=G2cZgVg_SwA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G2cZgVg_SwA)
MK series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...mSCnIOaUk#t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zXmSCnIOaUk#t=0s)
K series:
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-K9-Elite.asp
There are many links on fixing problems listed in several places… under the New Member or Kahr Tech sub-forums.

A very handy one is the Kahr Lubrication Diagram:
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14750
Many of your questions can be answered in these areas and you can learn how your Kahr works and not damage it with improper handling.

Another great resource for information on Kahrs... Archives of Magazine and Internet Reviews for Kahr pistols by industry experts. They test these pistols and report on their views and the ammo they tested in it. This is a good way to find ammo that might fit your needs along with accuracy and feeding in the pistol... usually from a rest with velocity and energy, as well as penetration and expansion sometimes... very informational.

http://www.kahr.com/product-reviews.asp

Frequently asked questions: http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp?

One very important bit of advice: Hold the Kahr pistol firmly when firing OR CHAMBERING a round. These compact pistols need all of the force they can get from the slide to get a round into the chamber successfully. If you don't hold the pistol firmly, part of the needed momentum is transferred to MOVING THE PISTOL and the top round will DIVE and jam into the right side of the feed ramp. The weak hand, over hand rack method gives the best grip and a firm rack will give you the best chance at chambering a round.

Use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear. Use the gun hand to simultaneously firmly push the gun as you give a vigorous rack with the weak hand and cleanly release the slide as it reaches the rear limit and is "snatched" from the weak hand. This approximates a real rack from firing and beats the slide release method WHEN executed properly. Much more strength can be exerted when this is done closer to the body.

Here's a video on that. The first part is what I'm talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hjLbFOw8sow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hjLbFOw8sow)

There are many helpful members here most of the time who might be able to help you, but as anywhere, there are many opinions and not all are correct. Be mindful of this before doing anything drastic to modify your pistol!


Wynn:)
Aka wyntrout

PS: I keep thinking of stuff to add and help new members... and am trying to cover most of the popular subjects. Yes, it's repetitious to many, but possibly not to all new members. This approach is easier than having to look up every tidbit for each new member or question that arises. :)

jocko
04-10-2013, 09:58 AM
[QUOTE=patrick;235577]Hello all,I am new here and have a some questions.I recently acquired a CM9 and am wondering about long term reliability of it.I fired some where between 120 and 150 rounds through it on Saturday.Besides one 147 grain HP not chambering right away and one time the slide locked back with rounds left in the mag (I'm sure I got my big fat thumb on the slide stop) it functioned perfectly.My question is barring it blowing up like the the guy posted about yesterday (I'm sure it was bad live l



u won't live long enough or have enough money to shoot out a kahr. not trying to be crappy about this but it is what it is.:Amflag2: Jst shoot the gun like u stole it and quit worrying about sumpin that is not gonna happen in ur lifetime.

JFootin
04-10-2013, 10:27 AM
Welcome to the forum, patrick! :) There is a wealth of valuable information in the New Member Area (http://kahrtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=56) and the Kahr-Tech (http://kahrtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27) sections of the forum.

And welcome to the CM9 Owners Club! :D Our official symbol is the wide grin smily because we are so happy with our purchase that we can't wipe the smiles off our faces!

Here is your club badge.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Smilies/BigSmily.jpg

The best holster I have found for forget-it-is-there comfort 24/7 with my CM9 is the PJ IWB Holster (http://pjholster.com/?page_id=37). There are so, so many members here that will concur. Paul is a great guy and a real gun lover, and he performs magic with kydex - making the holster incredibly comfortable to where you can't tell it is there whether sitting, standing or moving about. It is like the mass of the gun disappears, becoming one with your body. I carry mine with a 15° cant just behind my hip - the sweet spot. I prefer the one linked above with the over the belt clip. I normally wear the above under a loose shirt.

patrick
04-10-2013, 10:48 AM
Thanks guys.I was already looking at that holster.Right now I have a Crossbreed IWB that works out pretty well.It was NOISY though.I figured out it was the belt clips rubbing on the leather and found a solution.I still might have to "customize" it further though.I still like the look of the PJ though.When I have a couple extra bucks I'll order one.

RevRay
04-10-2013, 02:18 PM
Welcome, Patrick. I wish you well with your CM9. Pay no attention to the vast number of my posts. You have more posts on KahrTalk than I have slugs through my CM9 barrel ... but that's 'cause I only got it yesterday.