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Finfan64
04-19-2013, 12:47 PM
First let me say that I am new to the pistol world, I have revolvers and long guns. That being said I recently purchased a Kahr CM9 to use as my new concealed carry piece. I took my first trip to the range with it today(after cleaning and lubing it) and about every third magazine the last round would not chamber. I would rack the slide and the round would fire and the slide would lock back. I was only able to put 50 rounds through it. Has anyone else here had this issue? I am hoping it is just operator error and not an issue with the gun.

jocko
04-19-2013, 12:57 PM
try shooti it lefthanded to seeif ur thumb might have beenthe culprit, and also if u have anutter good shooter with you, let him try it also. 50 rounds, ur not through the break in stuff yet, so maybe give it the kahr asked break in rounds bnefore panicking etc. U mghtwant to take ur magazine apart to check to see if the spring is incorrectly and while it is apart, with some fine sand paper 600+grit smooth out the feedlips on the magazine, just to be sure all is well. I think after anutter 100+ round sthis will dissappear to, but again check things out to eliminatge any possables. The kahr tech section and propper preppingof ur kahr gives u some nice tips to look at. Goodgrip on thegun at all times...

Finfan64
04-19-2013, 01:15 PM
I was trying to be sure that I was gripping the gun firmly, and locking my arms. That being said I may have gotten a little complacent. What would I be doing with my thumb that could cause a problem? I will go and check the mags now. I have a MK620 and the MK720 magazines.

Thanks for the help.

Bawanna
04-19-2013, 01:21 PM
Sometimes folks bump the slide lock lever which usually results in the slide locking back with rounds still in the mag.

Since you mention it's always the last round it may just be coincidence or could be just a grip issue.

I concur with Jocko (as usual) that you should give it more time, focus on a solid grip, keep notes if it is a consistent issue.

Lots of help here if you need it.

muggsy
04-19-2013, 01:23 PM
I think Jocko mistook a failure to feed with the slide locking back in which case your thumb may have put upward pressure on the slide stop. When the last round fails to feed is the slide locking back? You need to better describe what you mean by failed to chamber. Does the last round nose dive into the feed ramp. Does the slide not go fully into battery? Give us something to work with here pardner.

jocko
04-19-2013, 01:26 PM
I was trying to be sure that I was gripping the gun firmly, and locking my arms. That being said I may have gotten a little complacent. What would I be doing with my thumb that could cause a problem? I will go and check the mags now. I have a MK620 and the MK720 magazines.

Thanks for the help.

stick with the flush fit 6 round magazines to test the gun out. wehave seensome feed issues with the extended magazine. More than likely it is not ur thmb as the culprit but allur don is eliminatng the possability. We gotta start some where to check things out. Sometimes alos these recoil springs are so strong at the beginnng than sometimes normal fmj ammo like wwb doesn't work the slide fast enough. U might try some defense ammo to check this theory out also, but normally after a 100+ round sthe recoil springs take their designed set and all is well. Be patient,most of kahrs little bugs are in the first 200 rounds and then all of a sudden the gun just smooths out and runs like a sewing machine....

indeed muggsy I istook that as u stated then it dawned on me that the slide was not locking back but just failing to feed, which leads me to maybe believe the recoil springs are still very stout in this gun and it needs more rounds through it, Whatcha think????:Amflag2:

muggsy
04-19-2013, 01:38 PM
I don't know what to think. FinFan didn't give us enough information. Like you I'm not a big fan of the seven round mag, but if it fails to feed the last round from the six round mag, Huston, we have a problem. Hopefully more info will be provided as to exactly what is going on. Could be the follower in the mag is hanging up on something. I can't see through this darn computer. :)

Finfan64
04-20-2013, 04:57 AM
I don't know what to think. FinFan didn't give us enough information. Like you I'm not a big fan of the seven round mag, but if it fails to feed the last round from the six round mag, Huston, we have a problem. Hopefully more info will be provided as to exactly what is going on. Could be the follower in the mag is hanging up on something. I can't see through this darn computer. :)

I am a newbie to this type of gun. I really can't tell you what it is doing, if I knew I wouldn't have to ask. It is apparent that some of the "experts" on this forum like to talk down to the "new-comers". I have spoken to Kahr, and some shooting friends of mine, and thay all feel it is a combo of the new shooter with a new gun. I will put some more rounds through it when I find some more ammo and see if things loosen up.

Thanks.

Bawanna
04-20-2013, 10:57 AM
Finfan64, it sometimes seems as though we talk down to new members but hang around a bit and you'll realize it's just a posting style.

We strife to help new folks and some are a bit more gruff about it than others.

If I was new and read the responses you received I'd feel the same way you do but after you read enough you'd realize it's really not the case and I think these guys are quite fond of you, well maybe that's a stretch.

I agree with Kahr that it's a new gun / new shooter situation that will cure itself given time and a little effort.

Hope you hang around with us until your a grumpy old guy with lots of experience.

Myself, I'm doing well becoming old, can't stop the clock or even slow it down, but I can't get a handle on the grumpy part.

tallahasseegreys
04-20-2013, 05:51 PM
Ammo is expensive these days. Unless you are wealthy, I would not blow thru too much ammo experimenting with this or that. My cm9 is currently at its second visit to Kahr. Almost a thousand rounds and several hundred dollars since purchase, I wish I had sent it back sooner. It is a gun. And not a cheap one. It should function flawlessly (after the 200 round breakin period yea yea yea). It should go bang every single time you pull the trigger. Its really not a lot to ask. Simple as that. If it don't work, send it back. A self defense gun should not need to be babies and pampered and coaxed to work. It should work.

tallahasseegreys
04-20-2013, 05:53 PM
New owner/new gun? My wife who never shot before put hundreds of rounds thru a new glock. Not sure I buy that line from kahr. Give it the 200 rounds as per the manual. After that, make it Kahrs problem.

muggsy
04-22-2013, 01:06 PM
I am a newbie to this type of gun. I really can't tell you what it is doing, if I knew I wouldn't have to ask. It is apparent that some of the "experts" on this forum like to talk down to the "new-comers". I have spoken to Kahr, and some shooting friends of mine, and thay all feel it is a combo of the new shooter with a new gun. I will put some more rounds through it when I find some more ammo and see if things loosen up.

Thanks.

No one is talking down to you. You simply didn't provide enough information for anyone to diagnose your problem. Is the round staying in the magazine? Is the round jamming on the feed ramp? Is the round entering the chamber, but the slide isn't fully closing. Failing to feed could mean a number of different things. We can't help you unless you help us. All of us are good natured people here.

Finfan64
06-06-2013, 01:25 PM
Yes the round is in the chamber, but the slide must not be fully closing. Is that what is considered "going into battery"? When I rack the slide slightly it will fire. I have my break-in rounds through it. I called Kahr with the problem and the CS rep. I spoke with feels it is the recoil spring, and sent me a new one. I haven't tried it yet, but will report back when I do.

jocko
06-06-2013, 01:33 PM
recoilsprings seem to solve alot of issues, that make jo sense. Give it a try,before getting to excited.

jocko
06-06-2013, 01:41 PM
I am a newbie to this type of gun. I really can't tell you what it is doing, if I knew I wouldn't have to ask. It is apparent that some of the "experts" on this forum like to talk down to the "new-comers". I have spoken to Kahr, and some shooting friends of mine, and thay all feel it is a combo of the new shooter with a new gun. I will put some more rounds through it when I find some more ammo and see if things loosen up.

Thanks.

notso, I don't see anyone talking down to you. We are trying to hjelp. We give suggestionsw that might not make sense and maybe not even related to ur issues but the guys are trying to help you. I see no "talking down" here but again it is what u feel ,not what I feel. Somne here are trying to interpret whatur tryng to tell us also.