I agree

[jg rider]

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/23/massad-ayoob-hammer-or-less/

http://www.grantcunningham.com/

[JFootin]

Ditto! :D I love my S&W 638 Airweight! But I got a real good trigger job done on it I would be comfortable shooting it with my weakened hands. 4.25 lbs with positive primer strikes and goes BANG very time! :59: The gun is also ported and Duracoated Gloss Black. What a sweet carry pistol!

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/My638-1.jpg

[MW surveyor]

I still want to know exactly how your gunsmith got that pull down to 4.5 pounds and have positive ignition!

[jocko]

"magic"

[JFootin]

I still want to know exactly how your gunsmith got that pull down to 4.5 pounds and have positive ignition!

Jocko got it; it's magic! :cool: And it's 4.25 pounds. The trigger mechanism was very smooth from the factory. Previously, I have stated that everything was polished for about 3 hours, although I couldn't tell it was any smoother (ice is ice, KWIM). The big difference between my gunsmith and other lesser smiths is: he didn't break out a spring kit and start substituting springs; instead, he started cutting a little off the main spring and the trigger return spring, test firing it to assure that it still went BANG, examining the firing pin indentation in the fired rounds and measuring it with a trigger guage. He repeated this process until he got it where it is. So it is not really magic; it is SKILL! :D

[MW surveyor]

Jocko got it; it's magic! :cool: And it's 4.25 pounds. The trigger mechanism was very smooth from the factory. Previously, I have stated that everything was polished for about 3 hours, although I couldn't tell it was any smoother (ice is ice, KWIM). The big difference between my gunsmith and other lesser smiths is: he didn't break out a spring kit and start substituting springs; instead, he started cutting a little off the main spring and the trigger return spring, test firing it to assure that it still went BANG, examining the firing pin indentation in the fired rounds and measuring it with a trigger guage. He repeated this process until he got it where it is. So it is not really magic; it is SKILL! :D

Well, I guess that I could do that here at the house but after about the second or third trial.................................I think that I would hear a police siren.

[yqtszhj]

Well, I guess that I could do that here at the house but after about the second or third trial.................................I think that I would hear a police siren.

Well if they show up you could offer to work on their's too??? ;)

[JFootin]

Well, I guess that I could do that here at the house but after about the second or third trial.................................I think that I would hear a police siren.

Well, you could stop at about 6-7 pounds. To my crippled hands, 4.25 lb feels like a lot more. But you could stop higher up and be very comfortable. And I'm sure you know how to polish parts. Worst case, you'd have to buy new springs.

I saw the discussion about the Centennial and I don't know if the differences apply to my 638 trigger mechanism, but maybe there is an advantage over the 637 and 642. Like I said, it was smooth from the factory. But it was so stiff that I needed BOTH trigger fingers to pull it DA. I don't understand why they make them so heavy. Must be a CYA thing. Obviously, the guns can operate dependably with much lighter springs.

[MW surveyor]

Yea, it might be a lawyer thing.

As you may know, I've got the 638 also. Now I'm wondering if there is some difference between the trigger on the 638 and the fully enclosed hammer model (# escapes me at this time).

I might do some more polishing and maybe cut back the original trigger return spring. I did put in the lighter spring kit from Wolff and it did help some. If I cut the original return spring, at least I have a back up in the lighter Wolff spring that I know works. :)

[JFootin]

I wish you success! :)

[ltxi]

Yea, it might be a lawyer thing.

As you may know, I've got the 638 also. Now I'm wondering if there is some difference between the trigger on the 638 and the fully enclosed hammer model (# escapes me at this time).

I might do some more polishing and maybe cut back the original trigger return spring. I did put in the lighter spring kit from Wolff and it did help some. If I cut the original return spring, at least I have a back up in the lighter Wolff spring that I know works. :)

Only J-frame action difference, at least that I know of, between contemporary Chief's Special, Bodyguard, and Centennial are the hammers.

I've always used cut down Wolff return springs....light original length doesn't work all that well for me. I've been 'smithing personal and friend's Js, Ks and 1911s for a long time and I honestly don't know how you could get down to 4.5# on a J. But then, I've never really tried for below 7#, either, as I don't have a hand strength issue and I like my revolvers at a slick 7.5 to 8.

Of all the carry weapons I have, my love you long time 442 is still my most carried....currently in competition with my PM9.