P40/K40 carry question.

[Dueeast]

Gonna get one or the other, might even get the Elite. This is for winter carry. Wondering if the weight difference is noticeable? Is the grip size different? Seems the K with rubber or wood grips would be slightly larger.

[b4uqzme]

It is certainly noticeable but it's up to you whether it's an issue. For me the k40 preference was a no brainer. It is more comfortable to shoot thus I shoot it better. Made the extra weight worthwhile.

Plus it's purdy.

[Bawanna]

It wouldn't make much difference in a proper holster on a proper belt. If you want to pocket carry or use some other unconventional carry mode, you'll notice it very much.

[phil413tx]

It is hard to wrong with buying the K models....

[jpshaw]

Don't worry about it. I know too many people that carry Maks and they weigh more then a K series. Not to mention less power too.

[steve666]

It is certainly noticeable but it's up to you whether it's an issue. For me the k40 preference was a no brainer. It is more comfortable to shoot thus I shoot it better. Made the extra weight worthwhile.

Plus it's purdy.

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs064.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) What he said!!!
http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q730/Steve666t/k40a_zpsd6a1d95b.jpg

[b4uqzme]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs064.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) What he said!!!
http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q730/Steve666t/k40a_zpsd6a1d95b.jpg

you're killing me... my wood grips are on backorder. "Bawanna???"

[O'Dell]

IMO the weight would be very noticeable. I have an MK40 and it's slightly lighter than the K. Although the MK is a bit smaller than my PM9, I can pocket carry the PM but not the MK. The K would be relegated to the belt, where it would be heavier than three of my 45's. I will add though, that the extra weight of the MK makes it easier to shoot than the PM9, and I'm sure the same would be true of the K.

[Jason4x4]

I carry a P40 IWB, and depending on where I am going, I will carry a K9 OWB, I am sure it is in part because of the OWB, but I can always fell the K9 tugging on my belt a little.

[laserfish]

I carry either the K9 or T9 daily IWB. Good holster and I don't even notice. Never carried a poly gun. I am sure they are lighter, but I can't imagine they shoot as good as these two.

[b4uqzme]

I carry either the K9 or T9 daily IWB. Good holster and I don't even notice. Never carried a poly gun. I am sure they are lighter, but I can't imagine they shoot as good as these two.

+1. :yo:

[O'Dell]

I carry either the K9 or T9 daily IWB. Good holster and I don't even notice. Never carried a poly gun. I am sure they are lighter, but I can't imagine they shoot as good as these two.

I have spent hundreds of dollars and several years trying to find an IWB holster I can use. So far, although I have two drawers and a cabinet filled with them, no luck.

[KahrOnTheFly]

I have a CW9 which is about the same weight as a P40 (15.8 vs. 16.8 ounces). And I also have a K40 which is my primary EDC. I wear both in the same CrossBreed SuperTuck. The weight differential is noticeable IMO. I am big framed guy, so I don't mind the extra 7+ ounces of the K40 and, therefore, carry it almost every day. And as many have already mentioned, the extra weight is very nice in reducing recoil too.

So, it will all depend on you and your preferences for carry. The bottom line is that it has to be comfortable for you. If a K40 is unbearable to carry, then it is not an option because you will not carry it.

Finally,... if aesthetics matter to you, then +1 for the K40! :D

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a513/LoadedFly/Kahr/IMG_0220_zps995cb45b.jpg (http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/LoadedFly/media/Kahr/IMG_0220_zps995cb45b.jpg.html)

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[b4uqzme]

Gotta say I'm torn on this whole weight issue. On one hand I personally prefer to carry the heavier gun that I shoot better. I feel safer knowing that I have a better chance of hitting target under stress. However I also understand kotfly's point about not carrying a gun you find uncomfortable. Can't hit anything if the gun's at home. I just ask that you don't split ounces and consider iwb or owb carry vs. pocket carry if that gets you the better gun. Your preference counts. It's your choice. It's your life.

[b4uqzme]

Fly --- I'll arm wrestle you for those grips. Mine are STILL on backorder. :(

[b4uqzme]

Hey O'Dell. Stick some of them unused holsters in the for sale forum. Maybe we can find good homes for 'em.

[wyntrout]

I wear shorts and tees/polos most of the year, especially indoors. I buy Large shirts and wear them untucked the year around for concealment. My P40 is at least 8 ounces lighter than my K9... and it's Mag-na-ported... and I really appreciate the lighter weight. I wear real shorts from Lands End with the shortest inseams... nowadays about 6" is the shortest I can find. I don't like big bulky cargo shorts extending to or past my knees... defeats the whole purpose of shorts... to allow my legs to radiate heat and cool me off a bit!

With my Kydex-reinforced Looper gunbelt and my Mini Tuck IWB holsters, my EDC is not weighty, but well-supported!

Some of my "EDC collection":

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showpost.php?p=187790&postcount=6

Wynn:)

[laserfish]

I have spent hundreds of dollars and several years trying to find an IWB holster I can use. So far, although I have two drawers and a cabinet filled with them, no luck.
This one is a Front Line Deep Concealment from 7.62 precision in Alaska. Very comfortable and very tuckable as I wear with slacks and dress shirts at work and no one knows I am carrying. Instead of 38 waist, I buy 40 and cinch up the belt. Wear a western style belt and it holds up great.

[phil413tx]

This one is a Front Line Deep Concealment from 7.62 precision in Alaska. Very comfortable and very tuckable as I wear with slacks and dress shirts at work and no one knows I am carrying. Instead of 38 waist, I buy 40 and cinch up the belt. Wear a western style belt and it holds up great.

Does the leather go all of he way up the gun on the side that goes against your body? It looks like it falls a little short. Other than that, looks like an excellent holster!

[laserfish]

There is no slide protection on the inside, my only gripe. I wear a t shirt all the time so it does not bother me. This hot Texas summer might be a different story though, we will see.

[sas PM9]

Gonna get one or the other, might even get the Elite. This is for winter carry. Wondering if the weight difference is noticeable? Is the grip size different? Seems the K with rubber or wood grips would be slightly larger.

DE:

Since you asked about carrying and not necessarily shooting it a lot; here goes. . .

The P40 at 16.8 oz. will be noticeably easier to carry than the K40 at 24.1 oz.

The 43% extra weight will be obvious to you. It will be pulling down on your pants 43% more, making you adjust them more often.

I base the aforementioned results on my personal experience with carrying the Star Firestar at 30.2 oz. compared with carrying my PM9 at 14 oz.*
Both results were compared with proper Crossbreed holsters and gunbelts.

*= all weights are sans magazines or ammo.

On the other hand the K40 will be noticeably more comfortable to shoot than the P40. Although both will have sharp recoil from the stout .40 S&W.

HTH.

-steve

[7shot]

Gonna get one or the other, might even get the Elite. This is for winter carry. Wondering if the weight difference is noticeable? Is the grip size different? Seems the K with rubber or wood grips would be slightly larger.

i really like the k series pistols and cc my k9 daily. the weight is definitely heavier then the poly's but i'll trade that anyday for the stability of the steel platform the k series gives. imo, even with the smooth triger it makes this pistol an even better performer.

[wyntrout]

There IS an alternative... the Kahr ported barrel... or getting the slide and barrel Mag-na-ported. The cost is about the same. My P9 now has the ported barrel and my P40 is Mag-na-ported. The P40 was my EDC until I put the Big Dot NS on it. I still need to get used to those, so I've been carrying the P9 with the ported barrel.

I started to make some headway with the Big Dots and then my LaserLyte LT-40 cartridge proved to be about 5 inches off the aimpoint at about 5 yards... kind of hard to hit the 2 1/2 inch Reaction Tyme Targets!

I returned the LT-40 to Midway and found they were out of LT-40's, so that's back-ordered. I need to get to the range with the P40 again. I consistently shot about 4 inches lower, even covering the bull, at 7 yards with the P40 and the Big Dots.

Wynn:)

[Bongo Boy]

I don't have both, only the K40. I can only hope the extra weight of the steel frame is noticeable--that's why I bought it. It's a tiny little gun, IMO, and I prefer having the extra mass. I don't carry anything whatsoever in my pockets, except maybe an occasional Kleenex or the car keys, so pocket carry of a firearm isn't a consideration for me. In a holster, especially one that fits nice and close, I truly prefer the heft of the K.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x150/Bongo_Boy/K40007.jpg (http://s182.photobucket.com/user/Bongo_Boy/media/K40007.jpg.html)

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[Rangemeister]

Bongo, your ported K40 is really nice. Mind telling me who did it or is it posted here somewhere else? Is it the magna port? :D

[JFootin]

That port shape is trademarked by Mag-Na-Port, I believe.

[Planedude]

Here is a link to Mag-na-port: http://www.magnaport.com/

Most agree, they are the best.

[Dueeast]

Well, I ended up buying a K40 off Gunbroker. Very good cond, 2 mags, plastic case and manual for $399. (I think I did good). Got smooth wood grips to go with it, but because of NJ's stupid laws, I can only buy one gun a month, so I have to wait 28 more days, as I just bought a S&W mod 19 .357 I'l post pics when i get it.