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Jeeps
05-15-2013, 04:34 PM
Hi all...I'm Jeeps (Chris)...been lurking here for a while. Not new to firearms, but I am soaking up all this info. You guys rock.

A question, though. I have a new CW45...oiled, lubed, tweaked and measured (all this and I haven't taken it out yet to shoot after about 3 weeks so far!) - but the little side panel on the right side...do I need to look in there for those "shavings" you guys mention?

Other than that, it's my first Kahr; I like the ergos on on it and am expecting to do it's thing after 200 rounds..or so.

wyntrout
05-15-2013, 04:53 PM
Hi, Chris! It's better if you don't remove that panel until you really have a problem. Any unscrewing and screwing of metal screws into the polymer frame should be avoided as you can strip the plastic easily with too much torque.

Welcome to one of the friendliest and most helpful forums around. You may have seen my list of info and links, but here it is again!

Welcome to the Kahrtalk forum supported by K a h r Arms.
Here are a few essential links and things to do BEFORE you take your new pistol to the range, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE taking it apart and trying to re-assemble it! The Kahr is a different design… 6-7 unique patents cover the Kahrs. I’m not trying to imply that you don’t know anything about guns, but many don’t know anything about the Kahrs and some of the things you can do to damage or cause malfunctions of your new, or new-to-you Kahr pistol.

First, if you don’t have a manual, yet, or one didn’t come with your pistol, you can view it and/or download the pdf file here:
http://www.kahr.com/PDF/kahrmanual.pdf

Please watch one of these videos FIRST! These videos can point out possible problem areas and emphasize correct procedures!
Take down and re-assembly videos:
T, TP, CW, P, & PM/CM Series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=G2cZgVg_SwA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G2cZgVg_SwA)
MK series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...mSCnIOaUk#t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zXmSCnIOaUk#t=0s)
K series:
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-K9-Elite.asp
There are many links on fixing problems listed in several places… under the New Member or Kahr Tech sub-forums.

A very handy one is the Kahr Lubrication Diagram:
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14750
Many of your questions can be answered in these areas and you can learn how your Kahr works and not damage it with improper handling.

Another great resource for information on Kahrs... Archives of Magazine and Internet Reviews for Kahr pistols by industry experts. They test these pistols and report on their views and the ammo they tested in it. This is a good way to find ammo that might fit your needs along with accuracy and feeding in the pistol... usually from a rest with velocity and energy, as well as penetration and expansion sometimes... very informational.

http://www.kahr.com/product-reviews.asp

Frequently asked questions: http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp?

One very important bit of advice: Hold the Kahr pistol firmly when firing OR CHAMBERING a round. These compact pistols need all of the force they can get from the slide to get a round into the chamber successfully. If you don't hold the pistol firmly, part of the needed momentum is transferred to MOVING THE PISTOL and the top round will DIVE and jam into the right side of the feed ramp. The weak hand, over hand rack method gives the best grip and a firm rack will give you the best chance at chambering a round.

Use the weak hand fingers over the slide(clear of the ejection port), thumb along the slide and pointing to the rear. Use the gun hand to simultaneously firmly push the gun as you give a vigorous rack with the weak hand and cleanly release the slide as it reaches the rear limit and is "snatched" from the weak hand. This approximates a real rack from firing and beats the slide release method WHEN executed properly. Much more strength can be exerted when this is done closer to the body.

Here's a video on that. The first part is what I'm talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hjLbFOw8sow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hjLbFOw8sow)

There are many helpful members here most of the time who might be able to help you, but as anywhere, there are many opinions and not all are correct. Be mindful of this before doing anything drastic to modify your pistol!


Wynn:)
Aka wyntrout

PS: I keep thinking of stuff to add and help new members... and am trying to cover most of the popular subjects. Yes, it's repetitious to many, but possibly not to all new members. This approach is easier than having to look up every tidbit for each new member or question that arises. :)

wyntrout
05-15-2013, 05:02 PM
Oh! And you might want to consider gloves or some kind of grip cover for the "cheese graters" on the polymer pistols. The .45's are pretty sharp. I knew that I needed something for the first trip to the range! I used a 1.75" bike tube to make a cover for all of my polymer Kahrs... even the P380. It's easy and cheap but be careful when cutting the tube as it has talcum powder inside. I rough cut my first one, turned the tube inside out and washed and dried it before final fitting to the pistol. The first attempt went on my PM9 and the next I got right for the PM45. Trim the tube to keep it clear of the magazine catch... both sides... and don't make it so long that it can interfere with mag retention or insertion. It's better to make one too long and trim as needed.

I like the tactile feel, so they are on all of my polymer Kahrs... very much like the K9 rubber grips... the old, soft ones!

Wynn:)

getsome
05-15-2013, 05:03 PM
Hi Jeeps and welcome to Kahrtalk....Congrats on your CW45....No the side panel has nothing to do with the shavings deal...The shavings issue has to do with crap in the striker channel left over from factory assembly...On the under side of the slide is a small hole you stick a tube from some gunscrubber or as most people here use, non chlorinated brake cleaner for cars...(wont hurt plastic but it will remove the white stripe on the rear sight)...I use electronic cleaner and it does the same thing but won't remove the painted rear sight line and is less caustic to your hands....Blast away and then don't lube the striker or channel and you are good to go...

Be sure to read he new Kahr prep thread in the new members forum sticky to get lots of helpful suggestions and answers to many of your questions...Again welcome and if you have any questions you don't find the answer to in the prep sticky just post away and somebody here will be glad to help you out...Now get out there and get that CW broken in good....Have fun and be safe....

getsome
05-15-2013, 05:07 PM
Wyn was quick on the draw and beat me to it but do look at all those links he posted and you will get a world of great info about your new pistol.....

Bawanna
05-15-2013, 05:08 PM
I'd not bother opening the side plate for inspection for anything unless you have a serious issue which you won't.

Clean, lube, read the proper prep for entertainment purposes and then go shoot the thing.

Welcome, glad you found us.

yqtszhj
05-15-2013, 10:50 PM
SHoot it and enjoy it. Welcome to the forum by the way.

Jeeps
05-16-2013, 02:25 PM
Thanks all...maiden voyage set for Saturday. I'll follow up with y'all!

Buzzard45
05-17-2013, 02:21 PM
:eek: dear lord jeeps three weeks? i thought i took forever at about two weeks!
welcome to the forum, be safe,be kind, and have fun.i know you`ll love the cw45, i know i do. by the way, if you find the rear sight to be not quite what you like, check out what harrylee did on mine.(it`s around here somewhere):yo:

Lentevan
05-17-2013, 06:00 PM
welcome aboard, I've been thinking about picking up a cw45 myself just to see what all the craze for.45 is all about. like everyone else said don't remove the plate unless there is an issue. have fun shooting tomorrow, too bad you've had you've had to wait so long to go waste some lead.