What's in your mag?

[voodoo54]

I carry Winchester 180gr JHP in my K40. Mainly because 1. it was available at wally world last year 2. I wanted JHP as opposed to FMJ (I know some people who carry FMJ as opposed to JHP because of reliability issues etc.) and 3. Winchester has always been reliable ammo. Was wondering what kind of ammo people out there in Kahr land load in their primary/everyday carry and why.

[Jules Winnfield]

In my PM9: Speer Gold Dot 124gr JHP. My reasoning: Because it it's good enough for the vast majority of PD's that use 9mm then it's good enough for me.


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[Indigo]

P9's get Winchester Ranger-T 124 grain +P+.
It's like having a small .40 without the same snap.
.45's get Hornady 200 grain +P.

[Rob_0t]

165g hornady critical defense .40 pretty fast round at near 1200 ft/sec.

[Sgt.K]

Speer 9mm 124 grain +p Golddots, Glock 19 Gen 4 and Kahr PM9. Seems this round has some street cred.

[bulletdodger]

Federal Premium HST 124 gr. 9mm, Winchester PDX1 Bonded (legal talons) 230 gr .45

Ballistics gel sim tests sold me on both rounds. Reliable feeding with minimal setback from chambering and unloading, But the HST's are a bit flimsy around the outermost edges and the feed ramp on my cw9 is deforming the top round quite a bit.

[pinehtr]

CM9 Gold Dot 124g +p

[Glock Holiday]

Federal Premium 147gr Hydra-Shok JHP

[Yogi 117]

9mm = 124 gr Speer Gold Dots or Federal HST's. Regular or +p
.45acp = 230 gr Speer Gold Dots or Federal HST's
.357 magnum = 125 gr Speer Gold Dots

:D

[BixBix78]

380 hornady critical defense (would be hst if federal would get in the game)
9's federal hst 147
45 federal hst 230

[gunshinestateCW9]

95 gr Winchester pdx1 jhp's (.380)

[ripley16]

Winchester PDX1 in the HK. Winchester Silver Tip in the Seecamp.

[chrish]

Kahr P9/TP9 get Critical Duty 135gr std velocity...or Winchester PDX1 147gr std velocity.

CZ P-01 gets the same CD, but in +P.

[phil413tx]

PM9 or K9 get Speer gold dot 124 or Critical Duty 135
G23 gets Speer Gold Dot 165

[Grizwold]

cw45 -- Speer Gold Dot 200 gr +p hp

[voodoo54]

Wow, looks like there's a whole slew of differen't brands everybody is using with no big consensus. Not a lot of responses on WHY ya'll chose that paticular ammo. I was curious about that too.

[newCW45guy]

Wow, looks like there's a whole slew of differen't brands everybody is using with no big consensus. Not a lot of responses on WHY ya'll chose that paticular ammo. I was curious about that too.

Speer GD SB 230gr in my .45 as it's far shorter than a 5 inch barrel.

Appears to both make the best that can be had velocity out of a short barrel and the bullet is designed to expand at that velocity. With adequate penetration.

Still contemplating choices for 9mm... but I have 18+1 available on that one.

[chrish]

I choose based on ballistic tests. Why?

Any handgun rounds is gonna punch thru walls (interior or exterior) like hot butter. So barring choosing another weapon (shotgun, rifle), if my round is going thru anyway, I want it to fly straight when it does. I do not want it getting deflecting and hitting something unintended in some other direction. I understand that I have to also do my part and consider what's behind my target. Secondly, tests on these rounds indicate they will expand and penetrate gelatin to an appropriate level and not get 'plugged' and pass thru. Thirdly, on the off chance that I have to shoot THRU something, I want a round that will do it and be effective on the other side.

So...from that, my choice has always been to look for the rounds that have weight and/or tests that indicate that the round I'm considering can do that. In the case of a PDX1 or the newer Critical Duty, those requirements are met. Not that there aren't others, just my two choices currently.

[TheTman]

9mm's have 124gr Hydra Shoks.
.40 has 155gr Winchester Rangers.
.45 has 230gr Hydra Shoks in one, and 230gr WWB HP in the other (they feed better)
.357 has 125gr green box Remington HP.

[Bagstrap]

PM9 - Hornady Critical Defense 115gr

[Fodder]

I use Ranger T 147g exclusively in all my 9mm. When I still had my 1911, I used Gold Dot 230g.


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[BixBix78]

tnoutdoors9 channel on youtube if you have not already. Ballistic testing channel

[voodoo54]

tnoutdoors9 channel on youtube if you have not already. Ballistic testing channel

Nice channel, thanks for the info.

[fmj7070]

Pm 40 Winchester Pdx1 180gr
Lc9 liberty usm4 50gr
Taurus pt 111 critical defense 115gr

[gi1964]

CM9 - 124gr Gold Dot
1911 - 230gr Gold Dot

[Barth]

HK45CT - Winchester Ranger T-Series 230 gr +P
Sig Sauer P220 45 - Federal HST 230 gr
Kahr MK40 Elite - Speer GDHP Short Barrel 180 gr
HK P30 40 - Winchester Ranger T-Series 165 gr
HK P2000sk 40 - Winchester Ranger T-Series 165 gr
HK P2000 357 Sig - Winchester Ranger T-Series 125 gr
Glock EXO G27-357 - Winchester Ranger T-Series 125 gr

S&W 629-2 44 Mag - Speer GDHP 44 Mag Short Barrel 200 gr
S&W 65-3 357 - Remington Golden Saber 357 mag 125 gr
S&W 640-1 357 - Remington Golden Saber 357 mag 125 gr
S&W 342 ti 38 - Speer GDHP 38 +P Short Barrel 135 gr

Arsenal SLR-106U - Winchester Ranger 5.56mm solid base bonded JSP 64 gr
Mossberg 500 - Federal Tactical® TruBall® Rifled Slug LEB127 RS 438 gr

[berettabone]

Winchester 9mm 147 gr. jhp. Changed over to Fed HST 147gr. jhp's

[steve666]

K40 - CorBon 135gr JHP

[Kidrod]

These days anything I can freeking find :mad: For the PM9 Federal JHP 124 grain Hydra-Shok or Winchester PDX1 JHP 124 grain. In my new .45 1911 PMC 185 Grain JHP, it's all I can find for it at the moment.

[Salty]

Hornady Critical Defense

[Rubb]

9mm = 124+p or 147 Gold Dot
.380 = 95gr. FMJ

[SDGlock23]

Right now in my Kahr CM40 I have some Triton 135gr JHP. These average 1260 fps from the CM40 over my Chronograph and the expansion is pretty good with minimal fragmenting, but there is still some. 475 ft-lbs from a 3" bbl isn't too shabby. The 135gr isn't really my favorite, but for now, I'm giving it a try.

The same day I chrongraphed the 135gr Tritons I also ran some factory Speer 180gr Gold Dots. They average 990 fps from the CM40. What's interesting is, well to me at least, is that previously I had shot the same Gold Dots through my G27 and it averaged around 945-950 fps. So when the Kahr posted up 990, I grabbed my G27 and put a few more through it and sure enough, even though the G27 has about .5" longer barrel, it consistently averages about 50 fps slower than the shorter barreled Kahr. Oh well!

[ovrclkr]

CW45- 230gr Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel

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[Barth]

Right now in my Kahr CM40 I have some Triton 135gr JHP. These average 1260 fps from the CM40 over my Chronograph and the expansion is pretty good with minimal fragmenting, but there is still some. 475 ft-lbs from a 3" bbl isn't too shabby. The 135gr isn't really my favorite, but for now, I'm giving it a try.

The same day I chrongraphed the 135gr Tritons I also ran some factory Speer 180gr Gold Dots. They average 990 fps from the CM40. What's interesting is, well to me at least, is that previously I had shot the same Gold Dots through my G27 and it averaged around 945-950 fps. So when the Kahr posted up 990, I grabbed my G27 and put a few more through it and sure enough, even though the G27 has about .5" longer barrel, it consistently averages about 50 fps slower than the shorter barreled Kahr. Oh well!

Barrels can have tighter or less tight chambers.
Where a 4" barrel can sometimes produce velocities greater than a 5".
IMHO - only a chronograph with a specific gun and load can tell the real story.

Speer's hot 155 gr bonded GDHP has been chronographed from a MK40 at 1,150 fps @ 450 E.
But they kick hard and follow up shots aren't quick for me.
My MK40 loves 180s. Soft shooting, fast back on target and groups really well.
I've since switched to Speer GDHP Short Barrel 180s in my MK40.

But my favored round in 40 S&W from a service sized 4" barrel pistol (HK P30)?
165 gr - Winchester Ranger T-Series or Federal HST (~1,130/40 fps @ ~468/478 E)

[SDGlock23]

Barth, yes the 165gr Ranger T is one of my favorites too. I'm kinda diggin' the HST series as well.

[josp]

Cor Bon powerball in my P380. Fast, accurate, reliable. Can't ask for much more.

[gunshinestateCW9]

CorBon 115grn +p jhp's in my CW9

[dbyer1]

45- ranger t 230 grain
9mm- hst bonded plus p

[Groovy]

9mm Remington Golden Saber 124gr JHP these just beat out the Gold Dots in my K9 for accuracy. All my other 9mm's carry Gold Dot 124gr based on the best accuracy.

[gonewinchester]

CW9- federal personal defense 115gr JHP

[addictedhealer]

Speer Gold Dot + P in my Kahr and LCR. I trust Speer and honestly won't buy anything else.

Ill never use Horndy Critical Defense. Not made for punching through walls and glass. Go to their website clearly states won't penetrate doors or walls..

[man1nboat]

Hornady Critical Duty 135gr + P

[chrish]

I don't carry them either, but a Hornady Critical Defense will pass right thru your entire house most likely, as will most any handgun round...dunno that I'd volunteer to be the human ballistics gel on the other side of a wall.

Critical Duty is the new and improved round from Hornady. Only round to pass the various FBI barrier tests. Most of the tests on the 'tube' are pretty impressive. I've moved to it as my carry round along w/ the Winchester PDX1.

[berettabone]

Federal HST 147 gr. JHP................

[Redstate]

MK9= Federal HST 147

[otium]

Today it is 230gr ranger-t in 45acp.

[garyb]

Lots of good carry ammo mentioned.

[timmy]

For right now Winchester SXZ 115grn jhp only ammo I could find without paying an arm and a leg for holding out for some Federal HST rounds

[ParanoidMedic]

I've been using a local companies ammo Precision Cartridge Company 230gr JHP 45acp. The owner is actually a fellow member on an Indiana based firearm forum that I belong to. He's always at the local gun shows around my area. Good guy, good company, great ammo.

[RxDoc]

In my CM9, Speer GD 124gr+P, and in my Ruger KLCR .357mag, either Winchester PDX1 .38spl 130gr+P or CorBon DPX .357mag 110gr.- whichever is available when need to purchase. All three are reliable and accurate in my handguns.

[Rubb]

Critical Duty is the new and improved round from Hornady. Only round to pass the various FBI barrier tests. Most of the tests on the 'tube' are pretty impressive. I've moved to it as my carry round along w/ the Winchester PDX1.


This guy just finish an extensive 380 short barrel test and move to 9mm SB. CD 135 was his first candidate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA7FTjmLiQQ

[queevil]

K40 Covert. Speer GDHP 165 gr. Why? It functions well and is accurate enough for its intended use. The .40 in a 3.5" barrel can be a handfull but the GDHP isn't so hot that I can't get a good follow up shot.

Honestly, I think that when it comes to searching for the ultimate SD load for a given caliber that we inevitably come to a point where we're splitting hairs. That isn't to say that it's not worth doing our homework when it comes to selecting a round. To the contrary, doing the research and choosing a load is the responsible thing to do. But, I believe that any of the aforementioned loads in this thread will perform consistently. The problem, is that we really have no idea what a bullet will do when it enters a target. There are too many variables. Clothing, bone, the angle of the shot.

So the advice that I was given a long time ago was to choose a round that is reliable and accurate from a reputable manufacturer and go with it and stay away from the exotic, whizbang over priced fodder. So, I choose Speer GDHP in .40. I tend to stay on top of the new products coming to the market which means I have the information I need to adjust my chosen round accordingly.

[downtownv]

Black Rhino in all calibers!:hurt: