militia men

[knkali]

look for feinstein towards the end

Thoughts? Militias are good? Needed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4ev2xkRJgI

[TheTman]

The Constitutional Militia consists of every able bodied man that is capable of fighting in a battle. I have a few friends, that are in a small "militia" meaning if SHTF, we will contact each other and gather at my farm out in the county, away from the city. Where we have water, and food stored. The Militia, is the reason Japan didn't invade the west coast. With our armed forces spread all over the world, we do need to be prepared to help defend our country.

[Bawanna]

The Constitutional Militia consists of every able bodied man that is capable of fighting in a battle. I have a few friends, that are in a small "militia" meaning if SHTF, we will contact each other and gather at my farm out in the county, away from the city. Where we have water, and food stored. The Militia, is the reason Japan didn't invade the west coast. With our armed forces spread all over the world, we do need to be prepared to help defend our country.

From enemies domestic and other places too maybe.

[downtownv]

Both "Foreign and DOMESTIC"

[Bawanna]

Both "Foreign and DOMESTIC"

I think we got foreign under control. It's the domestic that could stand some real attention. Course after all the scandals the last couple weeks, they say his popularity is up.

What the hell is wrong with people.

[knkali]

I think we got foreign under control. It's the domestic that could stand some real attention. Course after all the scandals the last couple weeks, they say his popularity is up.

What the hell is wrong with people.

If what you are saying is true, then we are in for a bumpy ride

[deadeye]

People will never understand a liar and con artist's claim to fame is a winning, pleasant personality. I believe P.T. Barnum said it well - "There's a sucker born every minute".

[yqtszhj]

What the hell is wrong with people.

That's easy. It's called STUPID.

[muggsy]

A "well regulated" militia being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. By "well regulated" the founders meant regulated by the State. Not a rag tag bunch of malcontents who organize into what they consider to be a militia. We have a solution to the problem called bad government. It's called the ballot box.

[jeepster09]

A "well regulated" militia being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. By "well regulated" the founders meant regulated by the State. Not a rag tag bunch of malcontents who organize into what they consider to be a militia. We have a solution to the problem called bad government. It's called the ballot box.


The ballot box isn't working so good with today's "low information voters" and todays"slick snake oil salesmen" :confused:

Our world is currently upside down......

[knkali]

A "well regulated" militia being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. By "well regulated" the founders meant regulated by the State. Not a rag tag bunch of malcontents who organize into what they consider to be a militia. We have a solution to the problem called bad government. It's called the ballot box.

Not sure your definition is as simple as that:




The role of militia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia), also known as military service and duty, in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America) is complex and has transformed over time.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States)#cite_note-spitzer36-1) The term militia can be used to describe any number of groups within the United States. Primarily, these fall into:

The organized militia created by the Militia Act of 1903 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903), which split from the 1792 Uniform Militia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Militia_Act_of_1792) forces, and consist of State militia forces, notably the National Guard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States)#Organized_militia) and the Naval Militia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Militia).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States)#cite_note-dod-2) The National Guard however, is not to be confused with the National Guard of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States), which is a federally recognized reserve military force, although the two are linked.
Constitution - Article II - The Executive Branch Section 2 - Clause 1:The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States when called into the actual service of the United States. [Article 2,Section 2 of the US Constitution]...

The reserve militia[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States)#cite_note-3) or unorganized militia, which is presently defined by the Militia Act of 1903 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903) to consist of every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45 years of age who is not a member of the National Guard or Naval Militia.(That is, anyone who would be eligible for a draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System).) Former members of the armed forces up to age 65 are also considered part of the "unorganized militia" per Sec 313 Title 32 of the US Code.[2]
So calling a militia a bunch of rag tag malcontents is a bit strong for what many would consider a true act of patriotism and is as American as "apple pie". However, the ballot box is always better than bullets for sure..

[ltxi]

That's easy. It's called STUPID.

Only half, maybe a bit less. The rest are just gullible.

[mr surveyor]

I ain't "military" ... but I'll guarandamntee you I am part of the Malitia, and I am over 45 years old (or whateverthehell the imaginary age cut-off is)




can I say that without getting sent to bansville?

[knkali]

I ain't "military" ... but I'll guarandamntee you I am part of the Malitia, and I am over 45 years old (or whateverthehell the imaginary age cut-off is)




can I say that without getting sent to bansville?

When you are from Texas it is automatic membership:amflag:

[mr surveyor]

thanks... I'm there then!

[Bawanna]

What if your born with a higher than average bad attitude with a burning desire to right wrongs even if it means hurting people.

Am I in too? Never been to Texas though.

[mr surveyor]

my spellin ain't so gud tonite... I should have spelt "militia" instead uv "malatia"

musta been an attempt to keep me off the sillyassed government word list thing

[knkali]

What if your born with a higher than average bad attitude with a burning desire to right wrongs even if it means hurting people.

Am I in too? Never been to Texas though.

Attitude is everything

[muggsy]

The ballot box isn't working so good with today's "low information voters" and todays"slick snake oil salesmen" :confused:

Our world is currently upside down......

Then it's our obligation to inform the voters and to get them to the polls. The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Let's see a show of hands. How many of you want to see our streets running with blood? I prefer the ballot box to the bullet box. Patriotism is one thing and macho bull patties another. Taking it to the street is playing right into the anarchist hand. And that's as straight up as I can be.

[OldLincoln]

The liberal press is all over the term "Militia", largely because of the way we have turned out Bubba as the representative. Contrast that with the image of Texas Ranger, clean cut run 'em to the ground types. Instead of militia we should adopt the Ranger to each state and organize it to be well regulated. Jan Brewer has the right idea and needs a lot of support and if implemented right the majority of us who remain silent (but watchful) can do that and more.

The Rangers don't have to be an official state organization but they do need to be regulated as in under control, with chain of command etc. They don't have to be full time but can hold reserve status as the county sheriff has reserves. They should be trained and approved by the local sheriff if possible or by a recognized company that trains law enforcement.

That's what I see needs to be done, however unlikely it is to be taken seriously.

[muggsy]

Not sure your definition is as simple as that:




The role of militia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia), also known as military service and duty, in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America) is complex and has transformed over time.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States)#cite_note-spitzer36-1) The term militia can be used to describe any number of groups within the United States. Primarily, these fall into:

The organized militia created by the Militia Act of 1903 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903), which split from the 1792 Uniform Militia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Militia_Act_of_1792) forces, and consist of State militia forces, notably the National Guard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States)#Organized_militia) and the Naval Militia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Militia).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States)#cite_note-dod-2) The National Guard however, is not to be confused with the National Guard of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States), which is a federally recognized reserve military force, although the two are linked.
Constitution - Article II - The Executive Branch Section 2 - Clause 1:The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States when called into the actual service of the United States. [Article 2,Section 2 of the US Constitution]...

The reserve militia[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States)#cite_note-3) or unorganized militia, which is presently defined by the Militia Act of 1903 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903) to consist of every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45 years of age who is not a member of the National Guard or Naval Militia.(That is, anyone who would be eligible for a draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System).) Former members of the armed forces up to age 65 are also considered part of the "unorganized militia" per Sec 313 Title 32 of the US Code.[2]
So calling a militia a bunch of rag tag malcontents is a bit strong for what many would consider a true act of patriotism and is as American as "apple pie". However, the ballot box is always better than bullets for sure..

My comment related only to the original intent of the framers of our constitution.

[knkali]

My comment related only to the original intent of the framers of our constitution.

OK got it. Usually when I contradict your facts, I better have my sheet together because you are 100% before you post.

[AIRret]

The liberal press is all over the term "Militia", largely because of the way we have turned out Bubba as the representative. Contrast that with the image of Texas Ranger, clean cut run 'em to the ground types. Instead of militia we should adopt the Ranger to each state and organize it to be well regulated. Jan Brewer has the right idea and needs a lot of support and if implemented right the majority of us who remain silent (but watchful) can do that and more.

The Rangers don't have to be an official state organization but they do need to be regulated as in under control, with chain of command etc. They don't have to be full time but can hold reserve status as the county sheriff has reserves. They should be trained and approved by the local sheriff if possible or by a recognized company that trains law enforcement.

That's what I see needs to be done, however unlikely it is to be taken seriously.

Old Lincoln you are SPOT ON!!
Well organized, with a chain of command. No military can be successful without these essentials!!
I don't think we want violence, we just don't want to loose "AMERICA", land of the free and home of the brave.
Here is a quote;
"Today we need a nation of Minute Men;
citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom. The cause of liberty,
the cause of America, cannot succeed with any lesser effort."
John F. Kennedy January 29, 1961

[muggsy]

OK got it. Usually when I contradict your facts, I better have my sheet together because you are 100% before you post.

I try to be spot on, but I ain't nowhere near perfect. My old high school drafting teacher always told me to make sure that my brain was engaged before running my mouth. I took Mr. Scott's words to heart. Scotty, if you can hear me, thank you, sir.