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MD_Vet
05-24-2013, 06:25 PM
http://hamptonroads.com/2013/05/fbi-agents-died-fall-helicopter-va-coast

ltxi
05-24-2013, 06:43 PM
http://hamptonroads.com/2013/05/fbi-agents-died-fall-helicopter-va-coast

Yeah...point? Training sh all the time.

ripley16
05-24-2013, 09:51 PM
Dangerous work. This is the second fast rope accident suffered by the HRT if I recall.

Tyme49
05-25-2013, 12:48 PM
“They have the same skill sets as SEAL Team 6 and Delta Force.” .... huh ???

To put it mildly, THAT is SERIOUSLY ludicrous!

jocko
05-25-2013, 01:06 PM
very sad.seems like awaste. These guys trainlike there is no tomorrow to "capture" these fokking terrorists, so that they can then spend the rest of their lives in "gitmo eatiing better than we do and that they ever did and getting to pray to "whofokking ever" and then the obummer wants to bring um here to the US for trial and then they make a mockery out of our justice system, let alone give these screwy liberal media peaople
TVcoverage of these people who should just be shot and dissappear like it never happened.

jocko
05-25-2013, 01:08 PM
“They have the same skill sets as SEAL Team 6 and Delta Force.” .... huh ???

To put it mildly, THAT is SERIOUSLY ludicrous!

I agree, I just don't buy that part.They might be well trained but I seriously doubt if their on the same levelasthe seal teams and delta force.Iquestion why we even need that training fgor the FBI, when we have such expericne and trained people like those mentioned:7:

course what do I know either..

semper vulgare

pappy42
05-26-2013, 02:46 PM
I don't know about the current makeup of the HRT; however, many members of the HRT came from the SEALS, DELTA, RECON Marines. Included among the former SEALS was Tommy Norris, Medal of Honor winner.

I don't want to get in a peeing contest, but I would suggest not selling those folks short without knowing exactly what I was talking about.

Jockster; ever hear about posse comitatus?

7shot
05-26-2013, 03:24 PM
These agents train and take very series at what what they do, it's tragic and very unfortunate.

jimsea
05-26-2013, 04:02 PM
I was a recue swimmer and have fast roped, and put SEALs via fast rope onto the pitching decks of ships.

The pilots got these two killed because they couldn't hold a hover. Once they go out on the rope there is no coming back to the bird. It's not like being on the rescue hoist cable that can be brought up with a winch. There is no mystery as to how they died........they eventually came off the rope and fell into the water and drowned. It's just a 2.5 -3 inch nylon rope and you're wearing leather gloves and boots to hold on.

They were loaded down with gear and without flotation......there is no way to swim with that weight and would have sank almost immediately without a quick way to jettison their gear.

jocko
05-26-2013, 06:50 PM
I don't know about the current makeup of the HRT; however, many members of the HRT came from the SEALS, DELTA, RECON Marines. Included among the former SEALS was Tommy Norris, Medal of Honor winner.

I don't want to get in a peeing contest, but I would suggest not selling those folks short without knowing exactly what I was talking about.

Jockster; ever hear about posse comitatus?

but for entry on ships??? very strange, but I guess we have people who train for everything. Not faulting anyone here, as I am totally unqualifed to really state anything other than opinion, and that might buy a cup of cofeeon a rainy day. So we have lost some damn good agents in a training excercise. a shame.

we skirted around that law very easily with Waco, did we not. I didn't know our national gurard had tanks to use on Americans on American soil and to not have our federalgovernment involvedin that ,wellI ain't buying it.I think Janet Reno OK-ed it even..

pappy42
05-27-2013, 07:36 AM
but for entry on ships??? very strange, but I guess we have people who train for everything. Not faulting anyone here, as I am totally unqualifed to really state anything other than opinion, and that might buy a cup of cofeeon a rainy day. So we have lost some damn good agents in a training excercise. a shame.

we skirted around that law very easily with Waco, did we not. I didn't know our national gurard had tanks to use on Americans on American soil and to not have our federalgovernment involvedin that ,wellI ain't buying it.I think Janet Reno OK-ed it even..

Jocko, Janet Reno had more testosterone and facial hair than eric holder and bo put together! Your kind of babe.

Tinman507
05-27-2013, 08:13 AM
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