found a lever gun

[b4uqzme]

thanks again guys --- the unicorn gun thread got me looking seriously for a .357 lever gun. While that search continues, I did run across this today. Haven't even shot it yet. Figure it's best to take it to the range for its maiden voyage. 1958 vintage Marlin 336SC in 35rem. Seller promises he'll keep ammo in stock for me. Of course I believe him. ;)

[Bawanna]

Looks to be in very nice condition. Well taken care of and loved.

Keep up the tradition.

[jocko]

that is one cool Marlin.

[b4uqzme]

my dad would always say "one careful owner". He wasn't talking about the previous owner(s). He was speaking for himself. :rolleyes:

seriously -- probably a 9.8 out of 10. I know I'm gonna give it some more love too. I think the mrs. is getting jealous.

[mr surveyor]

That's a great looking Marlin from a very desireable time period.

You really need to take up reloading, if you plan to shoot as many as 100 rounds per year.

Reloading can have it's quirks and hazards, but it ain't rocket surgery :D

Congrats on a really nice find


surv

[Bawanna]

Rocket surgery? Did he say Rocket Surgery?

[sas PM9]

Rocket surgery? Did he say Rocket Surgery?

B:

Yes, that's the malapropism that is making the rounds now.
I forget just whom made the recent TV flub.


-s

[GROTMAN]

Think he did..
http://a.tgcdn.net/images/products/additional/large/ea8c_rocket_surgeon.jpg

[Barth]

Rocket surgery? Did he say Rocket Surgery?

Even rockets can get sick - LOL!

[Barth]

I've always wanted a classic lever action rifle.
Watched way too many westerns growing up I guess.
But there's really nothing wrong with that now is there?
http://www.valdefierro.com/rifleman241.jpg

[Bawanna]

B:

Yes, that's the malapropism that is making the rounds now.
I forget just whom made the recent TV flub.


-s

Iffen I have a malapropism for four hours should I call my doctor? Malapropism, is that even a freaking word? Your trying to trick me ain't cha?

[b4uqzme]

It's brain science... ?? :der:

[mr surveyor]

malapropism sounds like a fancy Harley mechanic word for when they tell Jocko that the kick stand on his scooter ain't working right.

[Barth]

malapropism sounds like a fancy Harley mechanic word for when they tell Jocko that the kick stand on his scooter ain't working right.

I thought it was a fear of skin cancer???

[mr surveyor]

I figgered the "mal" meant "bad", and the "prop" would be Jocko's kick stand


we gotta get a Kahr Talk Dikshunery

[b4uqzme]

Sucks when ya gotta explain your own jokes. FWIW I got it. Gave me a chuckle.

[Bawanna]

Well ya probably got a higher one of them IQ's than I got. It sucks to have to ask for an explanation. I been thinking about going back for further edumucation and get me an IQ but most teachers and even a couple professors I've known, ain't to bright in real life experiences near as I can tell.

[b4uqzme]

Got my IQ at the local walmart...lowest price guarantee...

[Bawanna]

We got a Wal Mart in the last stages of legal hassles suppose to start building in our town pretty soon.

Towns already out of control, too much traffic, too many people but I look forward to it. I been dreaming of a door greeter job, was even hoping I could start early and greet the construction workers coming and going.

I'm told they don't have door greeters no more, just my luck. I'll have to think up some other important position worthy of a half man of my vast experience.

Maybe follow a dust mop around? Head of restroom security? I'll think of something.

[JustinN]

This thread isn't helping me....I REALLY want a lever gun....

[b4uqzme]

I went to the home depot for an IQ first but it was so high they had to use the forklift to get it down. The lift truck was busy in the plumbing dept (some guy was buying a new toilet and it was pretty high too) so I settled for the walmart...

[Barth]

This thread isn't helping me....I REALLY want a lever gun....

http://mhstt.tripod.com/44_bigboy.jpg

[b4uqzme]

Oh Henry!

[mr surveyor]

http://mhstt.tripod.com/44_bigboy.jpg



is that a single shot?

it ain't got no loading gate

[JustinN]

Henry's load in the tube under the barrel.

[mr surveyor]

I know ;)

[b4uqzme]

I think surv was messin' with youse guys... Was the original Henry tube fed? Or did it have a gate?

[Barth]

I think surv was messin' with youse guys... Was the original Henry tube fed? Or did it have a gate?

The 1860 Henry came onto the scene chambered in .44 caliber rimfire.
To load, you pulled up on the follower (tab hanging down in front of receiver)
rotated the barrel aside and loaded fourteen rounds. "Load on Sunday and shoot all week".
The "transistion" rifle, in original form is rare.
The 1866 was made with a loading gate and a wooden fore end.
The 1873 added sideplates that allowed easier access to the internals.
All three rifles have a toggle action. It works the same (somewhat) way as a Luger, except the toggles hang down.

The Big Boy’s action is nearly identical in operation to that of the venerable Marlin 336.

A. Uberti Firearms produces an almost exact copy Henry Model 1860,
although it is not available in .44 Henry rimfire.
Instead, they are chambered for centerfire calibers such as .44-40 Winchester and .45 Long Colt.
These replicas are distributed through Navy Arms Company.
They are popular among Civil War reenactors, as well as competition shooters in the N-SSA.

[Barth]

http://www.imfdb.org/images/0/03/Henry.jpg

[JustinN]

Henry is making the "Original Henry Rifle" again. The flyer for it came with my catalogue. It comes in .44-40 and still has that little tab to use to load it. A little shinier than the above pic, but otherwise looks the exact same. They used the same sights, everything. Kind of cool really. It says the first time the "original Henry" has been made in the US in 150 years.

[b4uqzme]

Fyi. Shoots great. Recoil isn't bad. Lots of boom though. Makes me smile. Gonna have to take survs advice and start reloading. Ammo is gonna break me. No complaints. Peep sights work great.

Already ran across an american made winchester 94 in 357. Price is kinda strong so I may not jump. Then again....

[mr surveyor]

reloading for the .44 mag is pretty easy .... just be sure and follow reliable load data (goes for any/all caliber reloads). I traded for my first .44 mag last February, a Ruger Super RedHawk (and one box of factory ammo), and ordered .44 dies the same day. A couple of buddies gave me enough brass and boolits to get by while I waited on my first order of 240 gr lswc's to come in. Within a week of getting the SRH I was rolling my own. Still haven't bought the first box of factory ammo.

I had been interested in reloading for many years, but never understood the economics until this last "late great unpleasantness" that swept over the gun and ammo supply with more of a vengeance than the 2008/2009 event. When I picked up a Ruger SP101 about three years ago, I bought two boxes of factory ammo. I ordered a very slimmed down reloading set-up (the old style Lee Classic Loader .... aka "whack-a-mole), rounded up some basic components, and was rolling my own within a week. I've put thousands of rounds through the SP101, and other than the first week of ownership the only factory rounds that have been through it have been 20-30 Hornady or Winchester SD rounds. I've substantially upgraded my reloading technique with single stage press and dies since that first "getting started" experience, and now load .38, .357, .44 mag, .45 acp and .30-30.

If I weren't reloading for my magnums, I'll guarantee you I either wouldn't own them or for sure would rarely be able to afford to shoot them. At around 7-10 bucks a box for .357 and 10-15 bucks a box for .44 mag, I can afford to shoot at least 50% as much as pre-2009.

[b4uqzme]

Thanks for the encouragement...

[Armybrat]

Love that old Marlin in the OP.

Here's mine I bought new in 1968 for $65 (IIRC). High see-thru ring mounts so's the iron sights can still be utilized:

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/MoreWinchesters032.jpg

[Armybrat]

http://www.imfdb.org/images/0/03/Henry.jpg

I'd rather keep my original 1864 manufactured damnyankee Henry....

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/P3030931.jpg

A little closer look at it - some Mexican ranchero engraved his name on the side plate:

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/P3030930-1.jpg

[Bawanna]

Wow, what a beautiful picture that is. I was gonna shoot a picture of my lever gun accumulation but not gonna do it now. I'm not worth of sharing the air with that collection.

Very nice, I'm very envious.

[b4uqzme]

Damn! :yo:

[JustinN]

My local Walmart has a Marlin 30-30 for just under $400. The wood is really nice looking (haven't checked fit in stuff) but glancing at it looks pretty nice. It's really really tempting me...

[mr surveyor]

My local Walmart has a Marlin 30-30 for just under $400. The wood is really nice looking (haven't checked fit in stuff) but glancing at it looks pretty nice. It's really really tempting me...

if you're seriously considering a "Remlin" (Remington made Marlin), give it a thorough inspection. One of the major flaws with the remlins is the fact that the rear dovetail is cut off plumb. That seemed to be about 1 in 5 from what I've heard, at least until some recent discussions on other forums (one being the Marlin forum) hinting that QC has much improved in the last year. The wood to metal fit is another nasty flaw they seem to exhibit, although the innards seem to work .... although very gritty until "worked with". My only experience with remlins is the one I (and some family members) bought for my grandson for Christmas 2011. I could kick myself for not spending the same money on a nice used "JM" model off a pawn shop shelf.

I do love Marlin lever guns, particularly my 1973 vintage 336, but Marlin ain't Marlin anymore.

[Cokeman]

I shot my lever gun today. It's actually my son's. It's the only gun we shot. He won't shoot anything else. There is just a coolness about lever guns.

[Barth]

I'd rather keep my original 1864 manufactured damnyankee Henry....


Outstanding!

I don't actually own a Henry.
Just posted an example pic off the internet.

[b4uqzme]

Wow, what a beautiful picture that is. I was gonna shoot a picture of my lever gun accumulation but not gonna do it now. I'm not worth of sharing the air with that collection.

Very nice, I'm very envious.

Bring it on Colonel! Love to see 'em. :Amflag2:

[Buzzard45]

here`s a pic. of my two levers (not nearly as nice as the others, but...)
top is a 1947 win. 94 in 30-30 (dad`s first hunting rifle) been on top of mountains in n. central pa. thousands of times, a real "brush" gun.
second is win. model 88 in 308, my current hunter.

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hope ya`ll don`t mind the scope too much, my poor ol` eye needs it.;)

[Bawanna]

I had my uncles 88 for 30 years, one of the few lever guns that I find acceptable to put a scope on.

I gave it to my cousin after his dad passed. Big mistake, I don't recall ever shooting it but I miss it badly.
Gave him his mom's Featherweight Model 70 in 243 too. I did shoot that and while I felt good to give them I feel horrible that I don't have them anymore.

Oh well, so many guns, so little time.

[Armybrat]

Wow, what a beautiful picture that is. I was gonna shoot a picture of my lever gun accumulation but not gonna do it now. I'm not worth of sharing the air with that collection.

Very nice, I'm very envious.

Please post your pics.

All lever guns are interesting to look at.

[Armybrat]

Very nice Buzzard. Love those '94s.

Never have seen an 88 in person.

[Buzzard45]

Please post your pics.

All lever guns are interesting to look at.

yes, please colonel:cool:

[Bawanna]

I'll try to dig them out tonight for a group photo.

[MikeyKahr]

Looking forward to seeing my future inheritance, uncle Colonel.

[b4uqzme]

Thanks for sharing buzz. Those are some great guns and I'm sure you enjoy them. That 3030 brings a bit of a tear knowing that it was your dad's.

[Bawanna]

A quick peek at Mikey's inheritance.

Left to right
Original 73 32-20, a 1901 10ga Lever action. These came across country together from St Louis on a covered wagon according to my long deceased grandparents. Then a 64 Winchester in 30-30, my uncles early 94 30-30 (my first hunting rifle), a Big Bore 94 375 cal that I purchased long long ago used but in mint shape. I used to hunt elk in the brush carefully. An early Marlin 357 (sorry Surv), My Uberti 92 in 45 Colt, perhaps not a true lever but it has one, my WWGreener 141/2 ga single shot, and down in front my Rossi Ranch Hand also in 45 Colt.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n538/hopke5/DSCN3968_zpsaabd4564.jpg (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/hopke5/media/DSCN3968_zpsaabd4564.jpg.html)

Light might be a tad better in this shot.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n538/hopke5/DSCN3969_zps797df7ef.jpg (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/hopke5/media/DSCN3969_zps797df7ef.jpg.html)

Closer

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n538/hopke5/DSCN3970_zps8fe7192b.jpg (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/hopke5/media/DSCN3970_zps8fe7192b.jpg.html)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n538/hopke5/DSCN3971_zps2738e562.jpg (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/hopke5/media/DSCN3971_zps2738e562.jpg.html)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n538/hopke5/DSCN3972_zps9bcf84d2.jpg (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/hopke5/media/DSCN3972_zps9bcf84d2.jpg.html)

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n538/hopke5/DSCN3973_zpsd8a74885.jpg (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/hopke5/media/DSCN3973_zpsd8a74885.jpg.html)

For anyone thinking bawanna has more money that Davy Crockett, remember I inherited most of these, or bought long ago before wife, kids, you get the idea.

[mr surveyor]

Bawanna

Is the '73 a shooter or wall hanger?

We have a '73 in 32-20 with a badly pitted barrel, and some pins missing from the toggle action. My Dad picked it up somewhere when I was still watching mickey mouse and the Lone Ranger ... he opened it up and put a finishing nail "pin" in just so the action would work, but never spent the time or money to make it a shooter. When Dad died in 2003 he left me with instructions to evenly disperse his meager "collection" amongst the family, so my son got the '73. He's been thinking about sending it off to be bored and chambered for "light" .38 spl, and getting the action completely refurbed. Since it's just a wall hanger as it is, and not a major valued antique, it's a shame to not make a real shooter out of it. There was nothing strong about the old toggle action, but it certainly did it's part for the time period.

Another thought would be to sleeve the barrel, keep it in .32-20, and buy .32-20 dies. Could be the smartest option?

[JustinN]

I guess "technically" I do have a lever gun - http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6410/bothz.jpg

Model 1894 Marlin in 44-40, made in 1897....next to my Grandpa's old 1895 double barrel 12 gauge. Still, I'd like to have a newer lever action. The 44-40 is actually kind of fun to shoot, but i just don't feel right about taking something that old around with me.

[Armybrat]

Gotta remember to wear a bib to catch the drool when I look at levergun pics. :D

Outstanding guys! Thanks.

[Bawanna]

[QUOTE=mr surveyor;246928]Bawanna

Is the '73 a shooter or wall hanger?

It's all there and it could shoot but I never have.

If you got a lot of money, Turnbull could put that 73 back to the way it looked the day it left the factory. I've seen a few of his finished products and they are breathtaking. Very very pricey though.

I'd love to do both the 73 and that 10ga lever but at the same time its kind of nice to leave them the way they are. The 10 ga is all complete and functional. Many have been robbed for parts etc.

The sentimental value far exceeds the monetary value.

I think 3/4 of the male population must have been named Roy back in the day. I've seen countless levers with Roy carved in the side, mine included as you can see.

My grandparents didn't recall any Roys in the family tree.

[Popeye]

That is a very nice old Marlin. I was able to work a trade a few years back for a Marlin 336c 30/30. (1981). A friend had two under his bed for over 25 years. The one was SS and the other blued. I got the blued one. The little Henry 22 isn't bad either.

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I was in Cabella's in Hamburg PA. last Saturday. There was not one older Lever action rifle in the place. Last year I was in there and if they had one they had ten. I don't know if it my imagination or not but it seems like since they started this AWB nonsense, Lever actions have gained in popularity.

[Barth]

A quick peek at Mikey's inheritance.


That's quite an impressive set of rifles.
And I was thinking I had a bunch of guns.

I'll just have to fondle my new USP 45 Tactical and try to calm down.

[JFootin]

Check out this Henry 30-30 at Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore:

http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/85303/c/firearms

http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/prodimages/16030-DEFAULT-l.jpg

[Harrylee]

I just love looking at all of this yet this is what the do good doers want to take away from us. I love to look at old firearms they have beauty in each and everyone of them.Keep posting pictures so I can vicariously live thru all of you!!!!!

[Bawanna]

I just love looking at all of this yet this is what the do good doers want to take away from us. I love to look at old firearms they have beauty in each and everyone of them.Keep posting pictures so I can vicariously live thru all of you!!!!!

Had to look that vicariously word up. I thought that was when your veins showed through your nylons, for those of you what wear nylons I guess.

Didn't mean that though, chalk up another error message for bawanna.

[Armybrat]

Actually I have been wearing a nylon compression stocking on my left leg for 3 months.

Doc's gonna stick a cath in that leg and burn some of those malfunctioning veins shut with a laser next week.

[Salty]

Nice collections. No representation of the Browning BLR - an often overlooked lever rifle.

[b4uqzme]

thanks again guys --- the unicorn gun thread got me looking seriously for a .357 lever gun. While that search continues, I did run across this today. Haven't even shot it yet. Figure it's best to take it to the range for its maiden voyage. 1958 vintage Marlin 336SC in 35rem. Seller promises he'll keep ammo in stock for me. Of course I believe him. ;)

found ammo at wally world :)
broke the firing pin :(
ordered a new one from midway... $18... and it shipped same day ;)

I should be back in business for the weekend. :D

found a winchester 94ae in 357 at a lgs but thought it was a little too much $$. went back a few days later and it was sold. maybe it wasn't too much after all. oh well. the search continues.

[chrish]

I should be back in business for the weekend.

Until then...circle the wagons and yell if you are about to be overrun kemosabe. Our ears are to the ground ;)

meh...seemed appropriate for a lever gun being out of commission.

[b4uqzme]

Until then...circle the wagons and yell if you are about to be overrun kemosabe. Our ears are to the ground ;)

meh...seemed appropriate for a lever gun being out of commission.

....still got my six shooter

[Bawanna]

Always carry an empty under the hammer, 6 only for shtf scenarios. I laugh, now days have 12 Hi Cap magazines for such instances. I was born a 100 years too late me thinks.

I figure it's mostly for when your hanging wanted posters and using your six shooter for a hammer. I sometimes cry just thinking about it.

[DKD]

When ever I need a little pick me up, I turn here to the forum. You guys always manage to extract a grin and chuckle out of me even on a bad day. You all rock !

[JustinN]

I'm really really fighting the urge to buy a lever gun. I really don't have the cash and I NEED an AR upper worse (I have a pile of mags, a pile of 5.56, and a complete lower).

[chrish]

Justin, just do what I did. Watched the 'Magnificent Seven' last night, and as much as I like a good wheel gun or lever action, it makes you appreciate high capacity even more.

Of course, if you've already got the high capacity job covered...then I can be of no help :D my only suggestion would be buy both and avoid the 'feeling something is missing' feeling.

[Popeye]

I feel just the opposite. Justin, If the Lever action bug is biting at you heels do not watch old western movies. It 's kind of like watching a WWII movie and not wanting an M1 Garand a M1 carbine or 1911. That WWII rifle bug you definitely do not want if your trying to save money for a Black rifle.
Regardless of what rifle you own though, Lever action rifles are very cool in any caliber.
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[AJBert]

Passed on a Win Mod 94 in the .30-30 variety today. Been looking for a pre-64, which this wasn't, though it was a late '60s version. That, and the action had been completely been replaced and was sloppy.

No problems, I've got time. I have a '52 Mod 94 in .32 Win Special that I have to give to my niece on here 21st birthday. She turns 12 later this month. The reason I have to give it to her is that my mom bought it brand spankin' new at the age of 17 so she could hunt with her dad. I grew up with that gun, took a few deer with it and she gave it to me for my 21st birthday.

Figure I absolutely have to pay it forward, as my niece is my mom's only grand daughter and I'll need a replacement for it and nothing but a pre-64 will do.

As a side note, my mom died in '92 and never got to see her grandchildren on my brother's side. I brought the rifle up to my brother's last year during hunting season to make room in my meager safe to make room for other...ummm...acquirements the wife doesn't know about. My brother saw it and instantly knew what it was.

Oh, and I have a Henry Big Boy in .44 mag that has no sentimental value, other that fun as heck to shoot!

[b4uqzme]

Passed on a Win Mod 94 in the .30-30 variety today. Been looking for a pre-64, which this wasn't, though it was a late '60s version. That, and the action had been completely been replaced and was sloppy.

No problems, I've got time. I have a '52 Mod 94 in .32 Win Special that I have to give to my niece on here 21st birthday. She turns 12 later this month. The reason I have to give it to her is that my mom bought it brand spankin' new at the age of 17 so she could hunt with her dad. I grew up with that gun, took a few deer with it and she gave it to me for my 21st birthday.

Figure I absolutely have to pay it forward, as my niece is my mom's only grand daughter and I'll need a replacement for it and nothing but a pre-64 will do.

As a side note, my mom died in '92 and never got to see her grandchildren on my brother's side. I brought the rifle up to my brother's last year during hunting season to make room in my meager safe to make room for other...ummm...acquirements the wife doesn't know about. My brother saw it and instantly knew what it was.

Oh, and I have a Henry Big Boy in .44 mag that has no sentimental value, other that fun as heck to shoot!

A pre 64 winchester lever is on top of my unicorn gun list. But I'm in no hurry either. Figure the gun will find me. Meanwhile the 357 lever is still my "next" rifle but that search might take some time too. I'm resisting the urge to buy a Rossi just to get er done. I'm sure it would be fun to shoot but that tiny safety just bugs me. I think I'd rather have a winchester with that clunky crossbolt/lawyers safety. A pre Remington Marlin would work too. I'll find it. The search is kinda fun and I've run across all sorts of things. Stopped in a store today and all their used long guns were on CLEARANCE = "make me an offer". Got an old (40s or 50s) Iver Johnson break action single barrel shotgun in 410 for almost nothing. Plus they made me a deal I couldn't refuse on an Auto Ordnance M130 carbine. The frenzy around here is pretty much over unless you want a glock. There are deals to be found. Ammo is loosening up too. Have fun.

[JustinN]

Oh, I know watching any sort of Western would not help my desire for a lever gun. I'm purposely trying to avoid those. I mean, If I really get the hankering bad, I can always go shoot the 100 and some year old 44-40 Marlin, or my dad's 30-30 Marlin, or his .22 Marlin...

Actually I'm fighting the lever gun bug as well as the break top pistol bug. I've been catching myself perusing places like Uberti's website to figure out exactly what it would cost me to get into a Schofield copy.....the answer is always too much, but those sure are nice guns...

[Bawanna]

A Schofield has been high on my list for a long time. Always just out of reach. My day will come. Was set on a 5" but the 3 1/2 is looking better all the time.

[b4uqzme]

new firing pin is in --- found some rough spots on the bolt and got them smoothed out and lubricated --- going shootin' tomorrow!

[b4uqzme]

My local Walmart has a Marlin 30-30 for just under $400. The wood is really nice looking (haven't checked fit in stuff) but glancing at it looks pretty nice. It's really really tempting me...

Hey JN -- they are out there --- my brother in law just bought an american made winchester ranger in 30-30 for just a tiny bit more than that walmart Marlin (or remlin as surv would call it). Never been fired. Not a scratch anywhere. The search is half the fun!!!