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jkalantzis
04-21-2010, 11:00 AM
I'm looking to buy a Shotgun for the house. I'm looking at the Rem 870 express tactical. Any thoughts or pics of your setup would be great. Advise is always wanted. I have never owned a shotgun before but plan to own one with-in the week. Help again Kahr Talk.

Bawanna
04-21-2010, 11:08 AM
Somebody just recently was talking about this same thing.

I'd go with the Remington Police Tactical if you can get one, better stuff. that being said I personally prefer the old Mossberg 500, just works better for me, like the tang safety better. I also prefer not to load it up with a bunch of after market gimicky stuff. I've put all that stuff on for several officers and a short time later they want it all off and it heads for ebay or whereever unwanted stuff goes.
A good forend mounted light is nice, I like a shortened butt stock but not a pistol grip. The commander here just bought a Mossberg auto, the newest one out, can't remember the model but it's a great shotgun, very fast, good ghost ring sights but I'd still personally go for a pump for a house gun.
Just my thoughts to be taken or discarded at your leisure.

jlottmc
04-21-2010, 12:13 PM
Most of the clones are good as well. A pump is THE way to go. I prefer to have the three inch chambers and not the 3 1/2, then again if that trips your trigger... There are SO many things that can be done with/to a good shot gun. My thoughts lean toward the 870 Police Tactical line though. The Mossberg is as good, just not as much aftermarket stuff though. Remember most of the clones work well too. Almost forgot, pistol grip stocks=PAIN. Cylinder bored barrels are also very versatile (turn it into a garbage disposal, they'll shoot anything), for the ranges of home defense don't discount birdshot. Buck shot is good as are slugs, but what lies beyond is a VERY big factor with them. Also at home defense ranges, your patterns will surprise you as to how tight they are.

jkalantzis
04-21-2010, 01:28 PM
I have to apologize I am sick and out of my mind today. I think I did ask this question a week or so ago. Sorry Guys and Gals.

Bawanna
04-21-2010, 01:39 PM
I have to apologize I am sick and out of my mind today. I think I did ask this question a week or so ago. Sorry Guys and Gals.

Out of your mind is perfectly ok and around here no one will likely notice but if your sick, stay the heck away from me! You need some chicken soup or something, maybe a tylenol?
Get well soon.

Speaking of sick, anyone know jbaker? Relatively new member. He was feeling poorly a month or so back, PM'd a couple times and haven't heard from him since. Hoping he's just busy and not down with some sort of serious medical issue. Please check in and let us know your ok when you find the time.

getsome
04-21-2010, 02:06 PM
I keep a a Mossberg mod 500 as my house gun...Loaded with #4 buck with an empty chamber...The click clack sound of jacking in a round would scare me away if I were a BG...I bought my son a Remington 870 20 gauge for trap shooting...The range we shoot at will only allow shotgun slugs and I was amazed how accurate that thing is with only a bead front sight...Very easy to hit a paper plate at 20 yards and it sure does leave some big ole holes too...The only thing I don't like about his 870 is where the slide release is located (in front of the trigger guard) My Mossberg is behing the trigger guard and seems more natural to operate but with that said either gun would be a great choice and don't discount a 20 gauge, much less recoil and way more than adequate for home defence duty....:33:

paintwerk
04-21-2010, 02:09 PM
I have a Mossberg 590 20"barrel with a Hogue overmolded stock set, and a Hogue Tamer pistol grip, that is on it most of the time. I find it very pleasant to shoot with the pistol grip.

I went with the 590, since it has an 8+1 capacity.

I dont have any tactical stuff on it. It came with a heat shield. The 590 has a bayonet lug, and I have an M7 Bayonet that looks awesome hanging off the end.

I think the only stuff I might add is a light, and a side saddle.

I think my next shotgun will be a Remington 870.

Bawanna
04-21-2010, 02:30 PM
I have a Mossberg 590 20"barrel with a Hogue overmolded stock set, and a Hogue Tamer pistol grip, that is on it most of the time. I find it very pleasant to shoot with the pistol grip.

I went with the 590, since it has an 8+1 capacity.

I dont have any tactical stuff on it. It came with a heat shield. The 590 has a bayonet lug, and I have an M7 Bayonet that looks awesome hanging off the end.

I think the only stuff I might add is a light, and a side saddle.

I think my next shotgun will be a Remington 870.

The 590 is a great shotgun, I don't own one but have shot them. They are nice because they come with everything you might want, like the extended magazine. Just like getsome, I like the controls both safety and slide release on the mossberg better than the 870. I keep mine exactly the same way also # 4's / empty chamber, nothing in the world sounds like that slide racking. I remember my short career in a gunshop we always announced that we were going to rack a pump so other employees wouldn't be diving for cover. Many get hung up on the idea they gotta have 00 buck or slugs, 4's are plenty for a house gun. And several guys here have identical 20ga's set up for their wifes when they aren't home.

jocko
04-21-2010, 03:09 PM
Just always been an ol Ithaca Model 37 fan myself, being a lefty. gun just felt good, A shame they went under but arised again to be mad ein Ohio. Not sure how that company is doing either. Kinda hard when you grow up with a model 37 to not feel some sentiment towards a great lost gun company. Back in the ealry 70's the Ithaca pump was the creame da creame of pumps.

things just change over times, some for the good, some for the bad..

Bawanna
04-21-2010, 03:20 PM
Just always been an ol Ithaca Model 37 fan myself, being a lefty. gun just felt good, A shame they went under but arised again to be mad ein Ohio. Not sure how that company is doing either. Kinda hard when you grow up with a model 37 to not feel some sentiment towards a great lost gun company. Back in the ealry 70's the Ithaca pump was the creame da creame of pumps.

things just change over times, some for the good, some for the bad..

This is why you are considered so wise around here. I have a freind who is a devout 37 fan, has several himself and he's got a full set for his son and his daughter. They work just slicker than boogie snot too. Remind me alot of the model 12 in alot of ways for some reason. I like the old 97 alot too. Dang something else to add to the want list.

jocko
04-21-2010, 04:29 PM
When I was in the gun business back in the 60's we sold the Model 37's for $99 and we sold hundreds of them. Never to my knowledge ever had to send one back for service. They were such a pleasant company to do busness with to, In Ithaca, NY for almost a 100years. economy, cost to make just got the best of them. They were machined from a solid block of steel, barrel was roto forged, all top quality things that cost money to do. People towards the end of my guns business days just would not pay $300+ for a model 37 when they could buy a Mossberg 500 for $75 whcih was in no way the same quality but still one hell of a good gun, .. Yes bawanna those were the good ol days. I just gave my model 37 with 4 barresl that I bought when i was 16 to my grandson. had it 50years, never touched it, hunted everythhing that moved, Was my best waterfowl gun for sure.
Oh my those days are gone..

jlottmc
04-21-2010, 04:45 PM
The model 37 a great piece. I prefer 12 ga because of availability of ammo and the choices. The Mossberg and the Remington will both serve you well, the model 37 if you can find one is just plain sexy.

jocko
04-21-2010, 04:50 PM
The model 37 a great piece. I prefer 12 ga because of availability of ammo and the choices. The Mossberg and the Remington will both serve you well, the model 37 if you can find one is just plain sexy.

The Mossberg pump has come a long way from the 60's as far as shooter acceptance backin those days it was considered the poor mans pump, today it is a very nice quality made shotgun.. and oh yes AMERICAN MADE..

jlottmc
04-21-2010, 05:03 PM
This is true as well, very well made shoots gun, and tough too. (You'd have to hear the joke to get the shoots gun reference)

johnh
04-22-2010, 11:58 AM
I have to admit I had to give up on pumps. My shoulder is messed up and working the slide just hurts too much. I switched to an autoloader, and ultimately to keeping an AR around for long-gun home defense. Getting older sure has its downsides at times, but at least I shoot better than when I was a kid.

:D

John