Do reload for your Kahr?

[RickH]

Hi everyone - I'm new to the forum and joined because I'm really interested in a Kahr for concealed carry.

I reload my ammo and have read the "official" Kahr warnings regarding reloads. I understand the warning from a legal (liability?) standpoint but need to know if properly sized ammo, reloaded within SAAMI specs, would be okay for range use/practice if I get a PM45 or PM9?

I use jacketed bullets so the potential problem with lead bullets in polygonal rifling is not an issue.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Rick

[Bawanna]

You hit the nail on the head when you said that Liablility word. Every gun manufacturer will normally include some kind of a reloader disclaimer. I'd reload away and have fun especially using jacketed bullets. Most of my guns have never seen factory new ammo at the range. I always carry store bought new stuff for carry ammo for LIABILITY reasons.
Even had a Ruger revolver that I blew up on my handloads repaired for free. Wasn't a mistake, tried an old POAckerly triplex load thinking if it worked in an old carbine it would work in a Ruger. I was wrong.
My opinion, load up and enjoy.

[jocko]

Hi everyone - I'm new to the forum and joined because I'm really interested in a Kahr for concealed carry.

I reload my ammo and have read the "official" Kahr warnings regarding reloads. I understand the warning from a legal (liability?) standpoint but need to know if properly sized ammo, reloaded within SAAMI specs, would be okay for range use/practice if I get a PM45 or PM9?

I use jacketed bullets so the potential problem with lead bullets in polygonal rifling is not an issue.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Rick

these gun companies are just trying to over their asses with that statement. If ur good at reloading, thats what all that reloading stuff is made to do. I used to but now to lazy I guess. Sometimes I think these owners manuals are not written by the gun techs or designers, but by the legal department. look at all this god awful writing that they are putting on the guns even. that new kahr with the safety and cocking indicator has the entire constitution written on the top of the slide and it continues into the inside of the slide even and then down both sides of the magazines????


just kiddibn of course,,,,, it doesn't go down both sides of the magazines, just one side!!!!

[Dietrich]

Hello and welcome RickH.If you reload within the specs,you`ll do fine.I`ve been shooting reloads in my Kahr for quite a while with no problems at all.I`ve never understood why some people feel the need to "push the envelope" with their reloads.Lots of bullets are designed to perform a certain way at a certain speed.I see no reason to try to improve on the stated recipes.I have always followed the recipes of the powder and ammo manufacturers and I have never had a problem with my reloads.I rest my case.Reload and shoot to your heart`s content.

[Flint Ridge]

I might also suggest chronograph your loads. Baseline of factory ammo and then yours. To me, unless you test it, you are "guessing" to a certain extent. I have complete confidence in my reloads.

Agree that folks pushing the envelope are just asking for trouble.

My plinking reloads tend to be softer than factory, why add the abuse to the gun.

I will be reloading some closer to factory spec's soon, soley based upon the availability of 380 ammo and the giant pile of empty casings, probably pushing 1250 - 1500 rounds worth at this point. So after working up some test rounds, chrono I have to take a couple hours to crank out that pile of brass. Man it is fun to make a couple thousand rounds in a couple hours:)

[jfrey]

I have shot thousands of reloads through my 1911's with no problems. When I bought a CW9 I naturally started loading for it too. I load a medium power round using plated bullets and it has been very successful so far. I don't push the envelope, they are just for target practice. My CC loads are store bought for other reasons. Careful reloading can be enjoyable and allow for much more range time. Kahr has obvious legal reasons for dis-allowing reloads, but many people do it and don't blow their guns up. If you know what you are doing and do it carefully, go for it. Reload and enjoy.

[RickH]

Thanks for all of your replies. That is a big help. It's been kind of difficult to find Kahr pistols to look at.

So far I've seen the CW40 and K9. The CW40 is a bit big for me so I guess the .40 and .45 Kahrs are out. I handled a K9 and it fits my hand like a glove. Now all I need to look at is a MK9 and PM9 to decide. I sure did like the feel of the K9 compared to the poly-frame CW. And all stainless guns look awesome, especially with wood grips.

[at_liberty]

Thanks for all of your replies. That is a big help. It's been kind of difficult to find Kahr pistols to look at.

So far I've seen the CW40 and K9. The CW40 is a bit big for me so I guess the .40 and .45 Kahrs are out. I handled a K9 and it fits my hand like a glove. Now all I need to look at is a MK9 and PM9 to decide. I sure did like the feel of the K9 compared to the poly-frame CW. And all stainless guns look awesome, especially with wood grips.

If you like the feel of the K9, you will not like the small grip M models. Those are special purpose or intended to be. If the extra concealment is really needed, that is where the M size is the right choice. The K9 itself is not much to carry, but you do have to dress for concealment.

[jlottmc]

Welcome aboard. Folks I think we have a new Kahr fanatic here. I don't reload anymore (no time/space), but many here do. Don't push the envelope, and clean if you properly sized and lubed lead. Jacketed rounds will be fine as long as you stay to SAAMI specs. A thought about your upcoming purchase, see if you can handle a K40, if you like that then you'll likely be in heaven. Any of the Kahrs make fine weapons. Read jocko's sticky in the Kahr tech forum and prep the pistol before heading to the range. After a couple of hundred rounds, you'll wonder why any other maker bothers.

[johnh]

I reload for my 40s and 10mm pistols without hesitation. As others have mentioned, just keep it sane and you will be fine. I view my reloads as practice ammo only, so no reason to try and set any power records. Just nice pleasant loads that work in my guns. I have known guys who were always trying to push the speed envelope when loading, and they always had problems (sometimes dangerous ones) sooner or later.

I will load 9mm when I get time to pick up some dies. I have brass and bullets.

John

[coclimber]

JohnH in post 10 said it well.

All my other hand guns are full size (except the Seecamp) and I really like the PM9 grip with 6-shot mag. And I shoot well with it. Try holding one in the store before you decide. My hands are size large, btw. I wanted a CCW gun, so might as well get the lightest and smallest of the Kahrs.

I've shot 200 reloads with my PM9 so far; no issues. Cheaper, and reloading is part of the fun.

[vmo]

I reload practice rounds for mine also. I use Golden Saber 230 grain bullets over 5.3 of Red Dot, with mixed brass. This gives me a borderline +P load that mimics factory Golden Sabers. I have been having a hard time finding the factory ammo lately though. I shoot this load in all of my carry guns, and replace the carry ammo on my birthday every year. This gives me the old ammo to use as a baseline for my home-rolled golden sabers.

Vmo

[Catshooter]

I cast & load for my PM 45. It eats them just fine.

Probably a good idea to never tell the factory that you do so though. :)


Cat