XS big dots vs. standard dots [Archive]

hsart

04-23-2010, 06:40 AM

jeepster09

04-23-2010, 06:56 AM

I like the big dot because it is fast and easy to see in any light, you get used to it. It does catch on some holsters.

Bawanna

04-23-2010, 10:18 AM

I run the standard dot on any mid to full size gun. I have 4 sets now I think just so everything is familiar. It's fast enough for me, still shows up well for aging eyes and is plenty accurate. Any future compact, PM9, PM45, G36 etc will wear the big dot. The standard sights on my K40 actually have a pretty similar sight picture and I get along fine with them too.
The big dot is accurate as well, you just have to get used to it. Not that much different than that standard dot really. I like them alot. Work great for me.

quikduk

04-23-2010, 09:25 PM

Bawanna

04-23-2010, 10:04 PM

Bawanna45cal:

Do you have pics of the guns with the XS sights that you can post? I really want to get them for the MK and my XD9sc but I was hoping to get the big dots...assuming that they won't mess with my holster fitment.

Have you had any issues with this? If so, I may need the standard dots.

...oh...and your package is supposed to go out this coming Monday if the mailroom wasn't sleeping today...

I don't think you'll have any real holster issues with either the big dot or the standard dot. Big dots would be great on the MK, I might consider standard dot on the XD9 but either would work fine. I'm not sure I have any pics that show the sights very well. I'll try to take a few tomorrow if my people give me few minutes to do important stuff. Kind of feeling poorly at the moment but maybe even later.
Your sending me a package?

Bawanna

04-23-2010, 11:36 PM

Bawanna45cal:

Do you have pics of the guns with the XS sights that you can post? I really want to get them for the MK and my XD9sc but I was hoping to get the big dots...assuming that they won't mess with my holster fitment.

Have you had any issues with this? If so, I may need the standard dots.

...oh...and your package is supposed to go out this coming Monday if the mailroom wasn't sleeping today...

Well my pictures suck. I tried and tried but cant seem to get the sights to show up well. Jeepsters picture above is awesome and my hat is definitely off to him for his photo abilities.
Here's my Para Companion with fixed standard dot and my 14-45 Para with a melt down dovetailed adjustable standard dot set. My 7-45 Para is still wearing the fiber optics but one day soon they'll be knocked off and replaced with probably standard dot XS's as well. I'll shop for a better camera or maybe a better picture taker.

jocko

04-24-2010, 08:25 AM

In general I see only glowing reports on the Big Dots... but have heard a few people here complain about them because of various issues such as not being that good for short distance target shooting, and problems with fitting in certain holsters. My question is: why not Standard Dots to get the benefits of day/nite sights albeit with slightly less front sight pickup, solve the target/accuracy issue as well as not needing a new holster? Trying to figure out which ones to get on a few guns.

they are designed for SHORT DISTANCE shooting. That is the whole principal of the bog dots. Now get out to 15 yards plus and the dot cover alof area. Again it is a fast acquisition short range sight, that for me is excellent on my PM9. I have um on my jP380 also, which by all means is a close up personal defense gun.

Not sure about the holster thing, but these custom makers will make a channel for any sight you want,but you need to let them know. I carry both of my kahr sin a desantis and course it works fine with xs sights..

Most people love the xs, an then there are some who are guided into buying them buy guys like us who brag on them, only to find out that they do not like um. Best advice is to see if you can shoot someone gun with the xs big dot on it.. Might save some headaches down the road..

quikduk

04-24-2010, 11:00 AM

Your sending me a package?

...er...yes...

It can go towards your PM45 fund...

quikduk

04-24-2010, 11:03 AM

Best advice is to see if you can shoot someone gun with the xs big dot on it.. Might save some headaches down the road..

Got it. I tried (without ammo) at Cops West this past year and liked how fast I could pick them up.

Bawanna

04-24-2010, 11:37 AM

Got it. I tried (without ammo) at Cops West this past year and liked how fast I could pick them up.

Usually and I think XS even states it in the paperwork at longer distances you can adjust and use the top of the big dot like a post so to speak. It's probably not technically (damn I sound like a rocket scientist) correct to say it's not accurate at long distances. Perhaps less pinpoint accurate than some sights but with practice a bit and it works well. I believe its even the same for the standard dot. Usually I cover the target, out at 20 yards and further you can drop down to a 6 oclock hold and hit well or at least people that shoot well can. Not sure I qualify for that or not.
I love em, they work for me, let me check the abbreviation list,,,,,hmmm YMMV. I rock!

REACT

04-24-2010, 12:36 PM

I have been doing a lot of research since my old night sights are almost useless. XS 24/7 Express (big dot) sights are the most appealing to me after watching these two videos...

long distance shooting

YouTube - XS Sight Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY5RURFEGd8)

up close and personal

YouTube - XS Sight Demo II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQVCeJ103BQ)

jggonzalez

05-08-2010, 07:19 PM

I've got XS standard dot sights on my Kahr MK9, my Ruger SP101, and soon on my North American Arms .22lr mini-revolver. STOP SNICKERING! Its a fun little gun and the sight will look great...

I went with the standard dot instead of the big dot because it seemed to offer the best of both worlds - fast target acquisition and plenty of accuracy at long range. I regularly shoot my MK9 at 15 to 25 yards with no problem. I used to have a set of XS standard dots on my 1911 and it was a tack driver at long range. I don't have the gun anymore because I needed to sell it for emergency funds, but I sure enjoyed it while I had it.

Bawanna

05-25-2010, 03:21 PM

As a follow up since this is the right place, I put a set of the XS Big Dot's on my (sure like that "MY" connotation) new PM45. Thanks again for the 100th time to ryoung who was my supplier.
They fit and work perfectly. This was my plan even prior to buying the gun, never dreamed it would all happen so quickly. It nearly came together before the first range session. Pretty good for an impatient person like me.
Anyhow I love em, a great match for a pistol this size, I'd do it again and again and recommend them without reservation.

Wasabi

06-30-2010, 05:04 PM

Well my pictures suck. I tried and tried but cant seem to get the sights to show up well. Jeepsters picture above is awesome and my hat is definitely off to him for his photo abilities.
Here's my Para Companion with fixed standard dot and my 14-45 Para with a melt down dovetailed adjustable standard dot set. My 7-45 Para is still wearing the fiber optics but one day soon they'll be knocked off and replaced with probably standard dot XS's as well. I'll shop for a better camera or maybe a better picture taker.

Wow! Who's that on the wall in the last two pics? If she belongs to you, you are a lucky man. :w00t:

Bawanna

06-30-2010, 05:12 PM

Wow! Who's that on the wall in the last two pics? If she belongs to you, you are a lucky man. :w00t:

That would be Mrs Bawanna and I am indeed a lucky man most of the time. You may have discovered why it takes me so long to get anything done out there.
Didn't realize she was in the pic, when I did realize, I wondered why no one noticed.

tnedator

06-30-2010, 11:05 PM

Wow! Who's that on the wall in the last two pics? If she belongs to you, you are a lucky man. :w00t:

Lucky, indeed. But, why is he pointing a gun at her? :p

medezyner

07-01-2010, 06:35 AM

That would be Mrs Bawanna and I am indeed a lucky man most of the time. You may have discovered why it takes me so long to get anything done out there.
Didn't realize she was in the pic, when I did realize, I wondered why no one noticed.

Too @#%$ funny! Bawanna, I love the way you slipped her into the background. I'm a little disappointed how long it took the members to comment. Guys, are we a little too focused on the handgun or what? Jez, you would think this was a gun forum or something! You are indeed lucky, but I'm luckier (just incase the wife starts reading this forum).:D

Bawanna

07-01-2010, 10:13 AM

Too @#%$ funny! Bawanna, I love the way you slipped her into the background. I'm a little disappointed how long it took the members to comment. Guys, are we a little too focused on the handgun or what? Jez, you would think this was a gun forum or something! You are indeed lucky, but I'm luckier (just incase the wife starts reading this forum).:D

You are a wise man. That picture is on the bench all the time, I didn't put it there for the picture. My son took those pictures but I have taken others and brought them to work not realizing she was in the background. In this case looking at the pics before I posted them I didn't even notice.
If my wife ever reads this forum they'll need to open up an obituary thread. Bawanna killed by the ruthless swede after back sassing.
I really am a lucky guy, she didn't get what she bargained for when she tied up with me.

Wasabi

07-01-2010, 10:31 AM

That would be Mrs Bawanna and I am indeed a lucky man most of the time. You may have discovered why it takes me so long to get anything done out there.
Didn't realize she was in the pic, when I did realize, I wondered why no one noticed.

Yes, she's a very pretty lady. I just found this thread yesterday and as soon as I saw that pic it was hard to miss her. Especially if one is evaluating the XS sight picture in your pic. :D

quikduk

07-09-2010, 07:15 PM

Funny. I saw her picture but felt it would be impolite to drool...er...comment on the forum. She is pretty and you are very lucky.

Of course my wife is pretty too (Hi hon...:D ...just in case she checks this forum...) and I too am very lucky.

jeepster09

09-21-2010, 07:27 PM

I like the BIG DOTS so much I have since added them to my P11 Kel Tec.

Bawanna

09-22-2010, 12:08 PM

Looks great. A Kel Tec with real sights. Pretty cool.

earle8888

10-25-2010, 01:37 PM

BIG dot sounds great! What about CTL???

jeepster09

10-31-2010, 07:25 PM

For "me" the CTL's are to flimsy [fragile] and give up concealability options.

Bangz

02-01-2012, 07:56 PM

The CM9 is my first experience with the "i" sight, I really like it. Seems easier to get on target than a 3 dot sight as on my XDM.

Are people doing a self-install or sending them out? If self-installed, how hard is it? If sending it out, recommendations?

Retlawman590

02-05-2012, 09:51 AM

I love my Big Dots on my XDs. Accurate enough to easily pass a LEO qualification course with an XD45C and these sights. Planning on ordering a PM9 with them installed from the factory.

Barth

04-12-2012, 10:15 AM

First I had Big Dots installed on both of my snubbie revolvers.
Quickly got addicted to them.
My 13+ year old Sig P220/45 factory NS went dark.
So I put 24/7 Express Big Dots on it.
Along with a 5.47" stainless match barrel.
And WOW, It's flat amazing.

When the front sight of my EDC Talo EXO G27 Ameriglo I-Dot Pros came lose after 3500+ rounds.
I didn't just have them tightened.
I replaced them with Big Dots.
And I'm glad I did.

For me, they are far and away the best handgun sights I've ever used.

pineappleshooter

04-12-2012, 12:15 PM

Yes, she's a very pretty lady. I just found this thread yesterday and as soon as I saw that pic it was hard to miss her. Especially if one is evaluating the XS sight picture in your pic. :D

How come your sight picture looks so much better than the sight picture on my PM9 with Big Dots?!?!?

Bawanna

04-12-2012, 01:38 PM

How come your sight picture looks so much better than the sight picture on my PM9 with Big Dots?!?!?

Maybe your dots are'nt big enough?

Barth

04-12-2012, 07:31 PM

I've got Big Dots
I've got Big Dots
And they're such Big Dots
fancy Big Dots
And he's got Big Dots,
And she's got Big Dots,
But we've got the Biggest Dots of them all!
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Example of my Big Dots in action:
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo09/3f/5d/ce78363b4ef2__1333759714000.jpg

jocko

04-12-2012, 07:47 PM

Looks great. A Kel Tec with real sights. Pretty cool.

believe usaid that!!!! Just sayin.:popcorn:

Bawanna

04-12-2012, 08:19 PM

believe usaid that!!!! Just sayin.:popcorn:

Well now it's a least worth the price of a set of Big Dot sights anyhow. No longer completely worthless.

david8613

05-22-2012, 09:14 PM

where is a good place to get these for a good price?

Barth

05-23-2012, 06:18 AM

where is a good place to get these for a good price?

MidwayUSA
www.midwayusa.com/
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anthony010

03-30-2013, 10:41 AM

pappy42

04-15-2013, 08:47 AM

I am interested in getting these sights for my CM9. I watched some youtube vids about how to install the $32 Night Sights KAHR sells on their site. Has anyone installed these themselves or are most taking them to a smithy?

I installed a front night sight from Kahr on my PM45. The toughest part was removing the original sight from the slide.