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downtownv
08-02-2013, 07:59 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/07/31/cdc-research-gun-owners-of-america-editorials-debates/2606751/:Amflag2:

JERRY
08-02-2013, 08:48 PM
the 20% who do not support it are sucking up for their next promotion....

deadeye
08-02-2013, 10:25 PM
There is a lot to this. I noticed DC is going to sidestep the "Nanny" program to go to a "Mommy" program. Call it the "nudge" department. To gently nudge people into becoming compliant with Big Brother's wishes. Direct force isn't working too well. The smoking situation is a good example. In a few years we went from not even noticing smoking to it becoming a little more serious than murder or rape by "nudging" people. 2nd hand smoke became more deadly than rat poison over night. Why won't it work for gun control? As Prince Eric the Holder said: "People must be brainwashed to accomplish our purposes."

muggsy
08-03-2013, 07:50 AM
It was my doctor who gave me the nudge on cigarette smoking. I was a three pack a day Marlboro man. One day I complained to my doctor about shortness of breath. Not one to mince words my doctor told me that as he saw it I had two choices. I could quit smoking or quit breathing. With that revelation quitting smoking suddenly became much easier. That was more than 15 years ago and I've never looked back. You can buy a lot of 9mm for what a carton of cigarettes costs.

Longitude Zero
08-03-2013, 09:43 AM
More guns in the hands of the good citizens stops more crimes by the bad citizens.

JohnR
08-03-2013, 09:47 AM
the 20% who do not support it are sucking up for their next promotion....

Either that or they misunderstood the question.

yqtszhj
08-03-2013, 12:14 PM
You can buy a lot of 9mm for what a carton of cigarettes costs.

Funny, that's the same way I look at things too.

yqtszhj
08-03-2013, 12:17 PM
the 20% who do not support it are sucking up for their next promotion....

Yep, Montgomery, AL Sheriff was for the obummer gun control plan although I heard that was to get more government funds.

What's funny is Montgomery, AL has now exceeded the number of 2012 murders already this year. The latest one I heard of was directly across the street from one of my offices.

Longitude Zero
08-03-2013, 02:59 PM
Agency heads, and this includes duly elected sheriffs are political creatures by nature. So they tend to bend with the political winds.

deadeye
08-03-2013, 04:05 PM
It was my doctor who gave me the nudge on cigarette smoking. I was a three pack a day Marlboro man. One day I complained to my doctor about shortness of breath. Not one to mince words my doctor told me that as he saw it I had two choices. I could quit smoking or quit breathing. With that revelation quitting smoking suddenly became much easier. That was more than 15 years ago and I've never looked back. You can buy a lot of 9mm for what a carton of cigarettes costs.

Totally agree. I wasn't condoning smoking. Just saying the direct approach on controlling guns didn't work any better than the direct approach on smoking. The indirect approach did. Slowly teaching especially young people that guns are evil things that sneak around killing people could easily be a next move. My son's father in law smoked 2 packs a day all his life. Died at 89, a passenger in a car accident.

muggsy
08-06-2013, 08:33 PM
Totally agree. I wasn't condoning smoking. Just saying the direct approach on controlling guns didn't work any better than the direct approach on smoking. The indirect approach did. Slowly teaching especially young people that guns are evil things that sneak around killing people could easily be a next move. My son's father in law smoked 2 packs a day all his life. Died at 89, a passenger in a car accident.

Was he smoking at the time? Just goes to prove my point. What point exactly I'm not sure. What were we discussing? Oh yeah, the nudge. There is nothing wrong with a nudge in the right direction. I only object to nudges in the left direction. :)

ltxi
08-06-2013, 09:21 PM
It was my doctor who gave me the nudge on cigarette smoking. I was a three pack a day Marlboro man. One day I complained to my doctor about shortness of breath. Not one to mince words my doctor told me that as he saw it I had two choices. I could quit smoking or quit breathing. With that revelation quitting smoking suddenly became much easier. That was more than 15 years ago and I've never looked back. You can buy a lot of 9mm for what a carton of cigarettes costs.

My wife has that problem and her/our doctor won't beat her up about it. Gonna try to convince him again at my next appointment with him come this Friday.

Fifty two years old, she's a heavy smoker, and starting to look it. Constant coughing. Her mother died ugly at just over 70 from lung cancer. Still can't convince her. At 70 I'm in way, way better physical shape than she is. I suspect right now our life expectancies are about equal, or less.