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magtf388
08-07-2013, 04:51 PM
Up and Running:

So it all started like this: With the current crop of micro 9mm that have been out as of late, I have been looking for the one that would replace a great gun, the Ruger LCP.

This Ruger has been my BUG for some time now and withaddition of a set of sights from INNOVATIVE ARMS (The sight upgrade includes a front Trijicon night sight, their custom built plain notch rear sight with cocking serrations, installation and slide refinishing in Satin Black Resin. www.innovativearms.com (http://www.innovativearms.com/) ) this pistolhas proven to be a great BUG. Reliable, accurate, and compact, the LCP has only one shortcoming, caliber. A 380 comes up short in the power department.

Now before you go off on your soap-box about the 9×17mm, :mad: be sure that I understand the contemporary bullets configuration and terminal ballistic results that have brought the “9 mm Browning corto” a long, long way from its originins in 1908. :behindsofa:

The truth is you can only putso much pop in the poop of a short 9mm. And NO I don’t want to be shoot by one even in the leg. :(

My goal is to have one caliber and that diameter should be as large as it can be while still being reliable, accurate and still preserving the BUG concept. Keep in mind that a BUG in my world, will also be used as an Off Duty Gun.

My search took me to a lot of places, some great (the current9mm Shield I have on right now) and some not so fun. (a Springfield XDs in 45ACP that went click often when it should have gone BOOM!) . I loved my Glock 26 and still do but it is a block.

With the help of Kahr Talk I started my review of the PM9 again. I looked at the it once but at that time it was a newer mini so I thought best to let it flush out a bit.

Having worked with a Kahr CW9 and liked it enough to send it to Robar (see post: “Robar Custom Job: http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=20132 (http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=20132))I started my hunt for a PM9. In the "Great Socialist State of Kaliefornia" we still have some guns left and a fine forum for us on the dark side of the coast is Calguns.net. It was from this I found a nice used Pm9-Blackened Stainless. California Price came to $660.00. That came with a total of 6 magazines, three short, three long. Also got a De Santis pocket holster.

Today was rounds down range :D and with lots of exultation I must report I could not get this PM9 to jam. I tried. I did-I did. Limp wrist, not much oil, +p rounds, sling shot…did not matter the gun went bang for 100 rounds without any issues. Shot 115grn ball,124 grn ball and Winchester Rancher T-Series 124+ HP. Shot at 15 yards, 10 yards, and 5 yards. Shot with 6 round factory and 7 round factory mags. Shot with one in the pipe and a fully loaded magazine and shot with a sling shot from the loaded magazine alone….NEVER HAD AN ISSUE OF ANY KIND. WAS GREAT FUN AND ON THE SPOT.

So what did I do to make sure this pistol worked? Well I took the advice of b4uqzme, Bawannaand and jacko. I cleaned the crap out of the gun, I put oil in the spots recommended (not as much as some would say you have to), I read the manual, and oh yea, I applied good old fashion common sense. This pistol is good to go. :Amflag2:

Maybe it was buying it used, maybe someone else had to spend a few hundred bucks in ammo to break this gun, maybe it was just God looking down and saying that old man gets himself a fine gun -no matter, this is a fantastic pistol and shoots “Nuts on.” I LIKE IT! Light, Flat, and hold to point of aim with the factory sights when I do my part.

I added a set of Talon grips to help with the cheezzzz grader grip bite. Maybe in the days to come I will stipple the grip like we have talked about in my other posts (http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=20206 (http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=20206)). Maybe New Sights that I can see better? Not sure.??? Old Eyes....how about those XSBig Dots guys????

Photos are the pocket rig it came with. Started packing again off the job as things are getting odd in the world.

Thanks to all you who have advice and arelooking out for us newer Karh Talk guys. It will be fun to see what comes this fine BUG. :D

If anyone has suggestions about what can be done to racethis BUG up some please share!

RevRay
08-07-2013, 05:08 PM
Congratulations on your gift from above. We love good range reports ... we'll take them every time. My first Kahr was a CM9 and my second was an MK9 Duo Tone. In time I expect that I'll swap my CM9 for a PM9 as I think I like the black look better.

downtownv
08-07-2013, 05:44 PM
My k-9 came from a NYPD chopper Jock was clean as a cats butt and he treated it like a prized possession!
Born on sept 2001 engraved as a 9/11 tribute gun

jocko
08-07-2013, 05:45 PM
nice report, love the dlc finish to. u got the best of the best and the 9mm is the ultimate caliber . nice groups to. very nice, now if that was just a blunt nose dlc PMJ9 u would be in hog heavenIMO. Just sayin.

Im not prejudice or anything either, I do carry my lunch occassionaly in a fokking brown bag and will continue to.

jocko
08-07-2013, 05:47 PM
My k-9 came from a NYPD chopper Jock was clean as a cats butt and he treated it like a prized possession!
Born on sept 2001 engraved as a 9/11 tribute gun

one really cool K9 there pervert. Did it come with the engraving on it like that. very nice. should be in someones hands that has some class though:Amflag2::Amflag2: just sayin

magtf388
08-07-2013, 05:51 PM
My k-9 came from a NYPD chopper Jock was clean as a cats butt and he treated it like a prized possession!
Born on sept 2001 engraved as a 9/11 tribute gun


That is very cool. I don't know this born date. Sr # is IC5548. ????

downtownv
08-07-2013, 05:56 PM
That is very cool. I don't know this born date. Sr # is IC5548. ????


Ask Jocko he knows everything about Kahrs!;)

or look here......:rolleyes:

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=207&highlight=date+kahr

downtownv
08-07-2013, 05:57 PM
Hell he even types like you! You 2 related? Just Askin'

magtf388
08-07-2013, 05:59 PM
Hell he even types like you! You 2 related? Just Askin'


If that was for me...Nope, Never even seen the man.

magtf388
08-07-2013, 06:00 PM
Ask Jocko he knows everything about Kahrs!;)

or look here......:rolleyes:

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=207&highlight=date+kahr


I did check that but no IC numbers are listed. best I can tell from this is mine is after 2009

downtownv
08-07-2013, 06:00 PM
Mags,
Just havin a little fun.....
No offense meant.

jocko
08-07-2013, 07:18 PM
That is very cool. I don't know this born date. Sr # is IC5548. ????

very close to Oct. 2010 nice gun, pay no attention to downtown, he means no harm, he just got out of the state mental institutiaion and he is still haveing a hard time adjusting,. His meds have yet to kick in, he isnot a realya bad guy, course he is really not a good guy either.:Amflag2:

I can tell you this , he sends me religious stuff all the time , so I do think he might be OK, once the meds kick in.. Just sayin

downtownv
08-07-2013, 07:40 PM
very close to Oct. 2010 nice gun, pay no attention to downtown, he means no harm, he just got out of the state mental institutiaion and he is still haveing a hard time adjusting,. His meds have yet to kick in, he isnot a realya bad guy, course he is really not a good guy either.:Amflag2:

I can tell you this , he sends me religious stuff all the time , so I do think he might be OK, once the meds kick in.. Just sayin

I'm sitting like a special ed student laughing at my computer screen!:D
Jocko, Naked nuns are religious, No?:confused:

jocko
08-07-2013, 08:39 PM
special ed??? Is that the same as a handicapped student. Ibet u road onn the SHORT BUS all through grade school Probably lonely bein the only one on there. Course u probably thought u were important because of that.

Yes, nuttin wrong with naked nuns:Amflag2:

magtf388
08-07-2013, 09:07 PM
special ed??? Is that the same as a handicapped student. Ibet u road onn the SHORT BUS all through grade school Probably lonely bein the only one on there. Course u probably thought u were important because of that.

Yes, nuttin wrong with naked nuns:Amflag2:

All in Good Fun!

Any thoughts on the XS Big Dots??? What more an be done to make this BUG a supper BUG???:86:

magtf388
08-07-2013, 10:08 PM
very close to Oct. 2010 nice gun, pay no attention to downtown, he means no harm, he just got out of the state mental institutiaion and he is still haveing a hard time adjusting,. His meds have yet to kick in, he isnot a realya bad guy, course he is really not a good guy either.:Amflag2:

I can tell you this , he sends me religious stuff all the time , so I do think he might be OK, once the meds kick in.. Just sayin

Thanks for the Gun B-Day

b4uqzme
08-07-2013, 10:17 PM
Yes, nuttin wrong with naked nuns:Amflag2:

depends on the nuns I guess --- certainly not the ones I remember from school...

bad visual. thanks :32:

b4uqzme
08-07-2013, 10:18 PM
thanks for the great report mags -- always good to hear.