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Popeye
08-14-2013, 11:50 AM
As some of you know I just purchased a Ruger Sr 1911 the other day.
I also own a RIA GI 1911.

First let start off by saying I love both of these pistols, but there are differences.

The Rock is like I mentioned in the title is a GI bare to the bone model of JMB's Creation. There is not one thing about this gun that screams buy me on appearance alone. That is unless your like me and love old military weapons. This pistol is about as close as I could get to the one I carried at times in the US Navy from 1966 to 69 without breaking the bank and still working reliably. I simply love this pistol even though the finish on it is questionable as to it's durability. I just don't care if this gun gets a mark or scratch on it as it will only add character to it's already old military look. It has many miles on it traveling in a Harley saddlebag. The only thing I did not like on it was the smooth wood grips that were on it. So I changed them out to Pachmry Grips that I found in a used grip and holster bin at the gun shop. How long they'll stay on there is any ones guess. I do like them though.
As far as reliability this pistol has been nothing short of perfection from shot #1. It's accuracy surprised me when I first got it. I believe it's accuracy far exceeds my ability to shoot it more accurately. It's trigger pull is about 5 lbs and is very crisp do to it's 70 series slide. The sights are small GI 1911a1 sights that are a little less forgiving than the larger Novak sights that are on the SR1911. However for the $419 I paid for it brand new, it is pure, the way it was intended to be 1911 fun.

Now for the Ruger SR1911. I have actually had dreams of owning one of these fine looking 1911's since the first time I saw them advertised. The SR1911 has been on my wish list for quite some time, But I've never been even able to lay my eyes on one much less touch one till the other day, when I found a LNIB with very few rounds through it.
This 1911 is just beautiful IMO. I like the black accents on it's brushed SS steel Slide and frame. This pistol is about as far as I would ever go from JMB's original design. The skeletonized trigger and hammer and beavertail works well with this pistol. The Novak sights are very nice when it comes to acquiring a target. The trigger is just fantastic at what I believe to be around 4 to 5 lbs. The SR1911 also has the 70 series slide. (No FP safety). The grips are typical 1911 style grips that work well for me so far.
As far as comparing it to the Rock GI, so far it has not been a 100% reliable. I'm hoping that it comes around with more rounds down range as every once in a while it will jam up on 230 gr Federal and Remington FMJ rounds. It accuracy is not better than the Rocks IMO at Ten yds. In all fairness though I have shot the rock a lot more. So the jury could still be out on that even if they do feel almost exactly alike in my hand when shooting.
So IMO if your looking for and entry level 1911 and you do not care how pretty it is or if it's American made the RIA 1911 just might be your best bet dollar for dollar. However if looks matter and your looking for a U.S. made 1911 the Ruger SR1911 just might be the one you should look at.
A new RIA Tactical 45 acp. goes for about $450 +/- and a new Ruger SR1911 goes for about $650+/-. So far though for me at least, I'm not totally convinced at this present time the $200 difference would be worth it. Being we all love pics here the two 1911's being talked about.
That Ruger sure is pretty and I hope it comes around.
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gb6491
08-14-2013, 12:21 PM
Nice write up Popeye, thanks for sharing!
Regards,
Greg

Popeye
08-14-2013, 12:32 PM
Thanks Greg. That Ruger sure makes that Rock look like a old turd of a 1911, but damn that thing is fun to shoot.:D

gb6491
08-14-2013, 12:51 PM
I like the various RIA 1911s (though I think the new logo sucks) and I've found their customer service is top notch.
Regards,
Greg

Bawanna
08-14-2013, 12:56 PM
I have no doubt it will come around too. I too was not competely knocked over with regards to accuracy at first but it was impressive the last time I had it out. Might just depend on the day.

As far as reliability, we'll get it running or if all else fails Ruger will. They still have excellent customer service and there's a million tweaks and fine tuning tricks for the 1911 platform.

As I think you said before, might even just be a lighter recoil spring.

I got nothing but confidence that it'll be a keeper.

Bawanna
08-14-2013, 12:57 PM
Oh and in addition to my heavy want for a Remington I also want a Rock too.

I think they are an excellent gun for the money and have a classiness all their own.

Popeye
08-14-2013, 01:30 PM
I hope it comes around Bawanna as I'm not sure where Ruger stands on warranty issues with me not being the original owner of the gun. I did a comparison on the two recoil springs, and the Recoil spring in the Ruger is made of heavier material with slightly closer coils and is about and inch longer than the one in the Rock. I did go to the range this morning for about 45 minutes with Remington FMJ 230 ammo. I still had a few FT feeds but not nearly as many as I did yesterday using Federals. Time will tell I guess.
Greg is right RIA has from what I hear some Great CS. All kidding aside. I think anyone looking for and entry level 1911 would be foolish to not at least take a serious look at RIA 1911. My story of complete reliability from shot number one is not the exception, but more the rule with the Rocks. It is a story I've heard over and over from many RIA owners. No. There not pretty or have the best finish on them but they just flat out work. I have CC mine on my hip many times when I went into Philly on PGR missions. Trust me I would not do that if I did not have 100% confidence in that pistol.

JohnR
08-14-2013, 02:22 PM
I picked Citadel partly because their roll mark isn't as obnoxious as Rock's. It's still large, but doesn't scream as loudly.

hardluk1
08-14-2013, 02:27 PM
I managed to get threw 43 years of hunting and shooting and never owning a 1911 till a couple months back. I am more a shooter than a collector so looks did not mean much and after shooting a few buddies different 1911's and swapping at a range for some trigger time with a couple more bought a RIA 45 tactical fs. A GI with different sight and safety. Paid $460 at local general store. Blued the logo out some and changed grips, trigger breaks at 5 1/2lbs and so far its shot about 600 rounds different brands of fmj and hp ammo includeing some 200gr swc. No problems so far.

I did change to a wolff 17lb recoil spring. Major difference in tension on the slide and it works well. Used some clp and a piece of leather to rub in the oil into the black finish and even helped it look better, more of a matt finish. For me its all I need in a 1911. Not as prudy as a ed brown or as accurate as a LB but runs good and seems to be more accurate than some costing more than a bit more money. I will not replace my kahrs for carry but has a place as a house and fun gun.
http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l444/hardluk1/th_107_4211_zps573f6f4a.jpg (http://s331.photobucket.com/user/hardluk1/media/107_4211_zps573f6f4a.jpg.html)

b4uqzme
08-14-2013, 03:46 PM
Thanks Popeye. Good stuff. You got me thinking about a 1911. It's good to know that there are good shooting 1911s out there that don't cost an arm and a leg. They are both beautiful but I have to admit I'm drawn towards that RIAs simple features. You got a great deal on that Ruger compared to what they are asking around here. Enjoy them both. Thanks again.

Popeye
08-14-2013, 03:49 PM
I was just cleaning up and putting some of my stuff away, when I learned quite by accident that a 1911 fits pretty darned well into the XDS paddle holster that comes with the XDS.:rolleyes: Not the perfect holster for a 1911 but it would do in a pinch.:D

muggsy
08-14-2013, 04:01 PM
Popeye, I served in the Navy from 66-72. The 1911 A-1 has always been one of my favorite guns. I shoot a series 70 Gold Cup with Bawanna grips that have Fouled Anchor Pins embedded in them. That gun is one of my most prized possession.

http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!portraits/photostackergallery0=36

Popeye
08-14-2013, 04:03 PM
OK before you ask for it here's the pic.;) No comments on the belly necessary as it took me years to get it to that point.:rolleyes:
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Bawanna
08-14-2013, 04:06 PM
That's one of them trick photographs. Where's the thumb safety? Whys the hammer down? Which came first the egg or Oprah Winfrey.

I'd lose the tupperware holster, they are great for tupperware guns but not for real guns. Also get a real belt.

As for the waistline, I'd say we're about even in that area so must be completely normal.

muggsy
08-14-2013, 04:07 PM
Looks very similar to mine. The belly that is. My old man always told me that a good mechanic keeps a roof over his tools. :)

Popeye
08-14-2013, 04:10 PM
Yes Muggsy, ever since I picked the first 1911 up I have been just so amazed with it's design and feel. JMB's birthday as far as I'm concerned should be a national holiday.:amflag:

Bawanna
08-14-2013, 04:13 PM
I'm still trying to figure out that picture. It's in a mirror but I'm looking at the left side of the gun and no thumb safety.

Wait, reverse the image, left is right and usually democrat, so maybe its on his left side, nope should still be a thumb safety, so it's right hand but reversed facing left.

Aw heck with it, I'm getting a headache.

Popeye
08-14-2013, 04:20 PM
That's one of them trick photographs. Where's the thumb safety? Whys the hammer down? Which came first the egg or Oprah Winfrey.

I'd lose the tupperware holster, they are great for tupperware guns but not for real guns. Also get a real belt.

As for the waistline, I'd say we're about even in that area so must be completely normal.

Think mirror? and it's just a pic that was thrown together in a hurry.;) Yes it's on the right side. Hammer is always half cocked around the house with one in the chamber, it's just as easy the full cock the hammer as it is to release the slide safety for us left handers. On the other side of that beautiful physique is the XDS.

Bawanna
08-14-2013, 04:46 PM
So your left handed? :confused: I'm sorry to hear that.

I think I got a Mueske ambi safety new in the bag. It's the one that doesn't have a paddle riding under the right side grip panel but has a replacement pin with a groove it rides in.

The finish I think is a close match to the Ruger.
I'm not 100% sure how much fitting if any would be required.

Want it?

Popeye
08-14-2013, 05:07 PM
Thanks for the offer Bawanna but I'm so used to not having one that I'd probably never use it anyway. Rather see someone else who could use it get there hands on it.

Bawanna
08-14-2013, 05:22 PM
I like your style. Putting an ambi safety on a 1911 is kind of like messing with mother nature, but for a lefty it does speed things up.

It's in a drawer if you change your mind. Been there a long time.