1911's, my personal dislike for pasta

[CJB]

As Mike Savage says, remember when spaghetti was one of the cheapest things on the menu but now its fashionable, expensive, and called "past-ahh".

So it is with what everyone calls the 1911, which is really the 1911a1... but who's being picky.

When I was a kid, we would sometimes trudge down for eats on the way to the weekend escape in upstate NY. The Itallian place down the road, where a guy who everyone called Joe, cooked up NY style Italian eats. Joe was a big sweaty guy with hairy arms, and wore a white t-shirt and white apron, all covered with marinara sauce and flour.

And spaghetti was a guys meal. You'd grab some spaghetti, a big piece of garlic bread dripping with grease, with your choice of two sausage and/or meatballs. And those meatballs were as big as a hardball. Cheap eats. Boys got a Coke, men got a beer and we ate really well, like men.... we ate like men who liked to eat.

Now its pasta. And the good old Colt 45, which was always the 1911 type and never confused with a Peacemaker Single Action Army... is now called "the 1911", and its not even a 1911, but a 1911a1.

I don't own any of what others call 1911's dammit. I got some damned good Colt 45 autos, in a few shapes and sizes. Guys like Sam Spade and Mike Hammer carried "45's" and they weren't cowboy guns. John Wayne carried a 45 in the war movies. Sargent Saunders carried a 45 along with his grease gun. Guys like Dillinger and Capone carried 45's. Those guys didn't need frills. They needed a pistol with a good reputation that packed a punch like the hot kiss on the end of a wet fist. Yah, Nick Danger carried a .45. As a kid, I knew someday, I'd carry a .45.

I do have a real 1911 in my collection. Its all original, except for the barrel which is WWII arsenal marked. But to me, its a Colt 45 auto. Then I've got those A1's.... but they're Colt 45 autos. Glock don't make any 45 autos. They make 45 caliber Glock models. Kahr don't make any 45 autos, they make P45s and PM45s and such.

Sorry to ramble, I'm just too old school. Newbies talk about $2000 "1911s", and I wince. Its like those $59 plates of pasta with zesty pesto sauce with sauteed garlic and herbs.

Screw it.

Give me a plate of spaghetti. I actually want to pick some hair out of the meatballs.
I'll carry a .45 during dinner, and I'm old enough to have a beer, and even two if I dare.

[Bawanna]

I'm feeling a little puffed up. You make my heart sing.

[knkali]

Fukkn'A

[Deano]

Preach it brother!!!

[downtownv]

As someone once said.... Any Gun can kill the body, a 45 will kill the soul!

[Barth]

The closest thing I've got to a 1911 is;
Sig P220
HK45C
HK USP45 Tactical.

I'm going to have to scratch that itch eventually...
http://richennis.com/Gallery/SAA/Valor_080927_1550.jpg

[JohnR]

Hey, I love pesto sauce on my pa- sorry. Spaghetti.

And I love my GI-pattern 1911A1. It's not a Colt, so I can't call it a Colt 45 (which makes me think of malt liquor). But it was only a bit over $400 new, so it's no sissy BBQ gun. :D

[muggsy]

I had an original 1911 manufactured by Colt in 1913. It now resides in my sons gun collection.

[Armybrat]

This one from 1918 was issued to a dear family friend who carried it as a pilot in that shoulder holster when he flew C-47s & C-54s in North Africa and over The Hump in WWII - it now belongs to my brother. The old gentleman/hero passed away several years ago at age 97:


http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/Pauls1911.jpg

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/Pauls1911-4.jpg

At his last Hump Pilots Convention in San Antonio a couple years before he passed::

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/P9070212.jpg

[Bawanna]

That's what I'm talking about! I love this sort of thing.

A beautiful piece of history that you know the history of and you know the hero that carried it too. Absolutely priceless.

Very very cool.

[jeepster09]

Wow...very cool indeed.

[AJBert]

Pretty sure when I went in the Navy in '82 that we were issued Colt 1911A1's, not Colt .45s? So, I guess my Springfield 1911A1 I bought as a coming home present to myself when I got back from Iraq in late '07 doesn't count?

Oh, and in Italy, spaghetti is called anti pasta for some reason. It is a side dish, not an entrée. Me, I prefer my wife's spaghetti over any I've ever had and she's English. Uses ground elk to boot!

[ltxi]

................................................So rry to ramble, I'm just too old school. Newbies talk about $2000 "1911s", and I wince. ...............



And then there are old guys like me into $4500 Wilson 1911s in 9mm to really hurt your head. At least newbies have an excuse for behavior like that.
:behindsofa:

[Bawanna]

And then there's me into the old and the new, does that make me Bi?

Do I need a coming out party?

I'm into Wilson's at any price, don't have one, most likely never will but I'm into them just the same.

Course I'm into Rocks and Citadels too, don't have those neither.

I am Bi. Momma's not gonna like this much.

[ltxi]

Well now, that provokes thought.

Is a 9mm Wilson 1911 old or new? If it was just, like, a Kimber it might be a write off as an abomination but no one could stick a Bill Wilson creation with that moniker. Not even Col Cooper whom I suspect be way restless in his grave over the idea.

Guess maybe I'd hafta classify it as "evolved". Kinda like your bi thingy. Don't get so stuck in the past that you ignore potentially interesting and useful improvements.

[Armybrat]

Well, I don't have a Colt 1911, but this Springfield GI will do for now:

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/MoreWinchesters.jpg

Guess this kind of 1911 doesn't count either...

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/Armybrat4/Cristmas2012018.jpg

[JohnR]

Does it have a worm? :D

[CJB]

Just to clarify, it don't have to be GI dress code, or Colt to be a ".45" or even a Colt 45 auto.

Even the best dressed Kimber can be a "45".

The point is one of perception. Remember, the pasta, no matter how fancy, no matter how well served, no matter the price, is still just spaghetti. So if you want to spend $80 for a plate of spaghetti with girly sauce and pineapple.... just remember, its spaghetti. If you want to spend $6 for a plate of spaghetti with a sausage and wedge of italian bread, its still spaghetti.

There is a certain guy-thing with a "45". An unspoken hormonal attribuite that makes it a ".45" Just like when you go into the place that serves spaghetti for $80, you gotta watch how you dress, what you say, where you look, where you walk, who's ass you grab, which glass is the water glass, and which spoon is the twirly spoon.

Again: Screw it.

I want a plate of spaghetti as it was meant to be served. Simply, like guy simple. You don't twirl it on a spoon, you stab it and twist it in the plate. You shovel it in, you don't cut off the excess with your knife. You grab the waitreses ass, because she expects a little of that, and you drink out of the bottle not a glass. Same thing with a ".45". no matter how fancy it is, you better be able to shoot it simply. It better not be a safe queen, and you ought not drool over it much. Ya gotta shoot it, and know and understand that no matter what suit its wearin', that its still just a ".45".

Damn near married that waitress by the way.

[ltxi]

Just to clarify, it don't have to be GI dress code, or Colt to be a ".45" or even a Colt 45 auto.

Even the best dressed Kimber can be a "45".

The point is one of perception. Remember, the pasta, no matter how fancy, no matter how well served, no matter the price, is still just spaghetti. So if you want to spend $80 for a plate of spaghetti with girly sauce and pineapple.... just remember, its spaghetti. If you want to spend $6 for a plate of spaghetti with a sausage and wedge of italian bread, its still spaghetti.

There is a certain guy-thing with a "45". An unspoken hormonal attribuite that makes it a ".45" Just like when you go into the place that serves spaghetti for $80, you gotta watch how you dress, what you say, where you look, where you walk, who's ass you grab, which glass is the water glass, and which spoon is the twirly spoon.

Again: Screw it.

I want a plate of spaghetti as it was meant to be served. Simply, like guy simple. You don't twirl it on a spoon, you stab it and twist it in the plate. You shovel it in, you don't cut off the excess with your knife. You grab the waitreses ass, because she expects a little of that, and you drink out of the bottle not a glass. Same thing with a ".45". no matter how fancy it is, you better be able to shoot it simply. It better not be a safe queen, and you ought not drool over it much. Ya gotta shoot it, and know and understand that no matter what suit its wearin', that its still just a ".45".

Damn near married that waitress by the way.

I did marry my version of that. NJ tavern bartender. That was my third wife. We're still great friends.

[Armybrat]

Well CJB, if I open up that second 1911, we'll all be grabbin' the waitress's ass.

[CJB]

amen to that!

[Bawanna]

Unspoken hormonal attribute. I think I've figured out why Jocko don't like 45's.

[Tinman507]

Unspoken hormonal attribute. I think I've figured out why Jocko don't like 45's.

Now that's funny right there :D

[Armybrat]

Unspoken hormonal attribute. I think I've figured out why Jocko don't like 45's.

I'll bet Jocko is secretly wishin' that Justin comes out with a PM22 or a CM22.

Actually, I wouldn't mind one of those myself, or at least a .22lr conversion kit to fit my CW45.

[muggsy]

Too all of you miscreants and neanderthals. Pasta is a noodle. Spaghetti is a specific kind of pasta noodle. Cover it with a sauce and it becomes a taste delight. It's an amazing trick that I learned from my mother.
Signed,
The Gulping Gourmet

[Tinman507]

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/wzozfm.com/files/2012/12/12-18-12-logan-spaghetti-face-2003-630x420.jpg

[CJB]

Mugs ol bean, and a ".45" is really a Model 1911a1.

Bollocks!

Its not the substance, but the attitude that matters with such many things.

I got dragged into "Le Petit Chamber Jaune" once. Had to wear a fake-silk hangman's noose around my neck, and a coat on a warm day. Everything was in a different language. Even the crapper. WTF is a l'homme? Thru that door wasn't anything like _my_ home, thats for sure. But I digress. I got some sort of twisted noodle with some long skinny spaghetti wanna be's mixed in, and some weird purple springy noodles in it too. Some sort of pates and fusilli something. Had scallop rosettes and little wiggly things that looked like they'd be better off cwalin' on a hook than going down my pie hole. Forget beer. We had to have some sort of premium sparkling water from "source d'espusette". Talk about a date from hell. It was about $300 with the tip, and I'm not a great tipper if I'm not enjoyin' the eats.

Ok, yah, it was food. It did satisfy the chemical needs of the human body for sustanance. But it was made to be looked at, with flourish and panty-waist ardor.

I managed a second date though. Told her to wear some jeans that cost less than fifty dollars. I was informed that hers were Lucky Brand, and cost about $150. Ok whatever. Dragged her down to Norris's Catfish Heaven, and partook catfish and hushpuppies with some Miller's to wash it down. Strange gal, because right after her first catfish she said her father was picking her up and walked out to meet him. Guess there was some family issue goin on. I didn't mind much, as the bill was only $25 and I got to eat her leftover catfish.

And thats how it is with ".45"'s. You got your shooters who been droolin after some super duper whale tail fish scale Model Nineteen Eleven. They come to your local range or shooting spot, and maybe even shoot it, and/or even shoot it decently. The gun gets the job done when pressed to do so. But... its all ooh's and ahh's and "try the trigger".

There was a time when spaghetti was the cheapest thing on the menu, and manly men at it at home, or out, and didn't mind sayin' so. In fact, they didn't wany any part of haute cuisine. The best they could get was a good steak and a baked potato. Now you gotta pick your steak from a cold display and they carve your initials into it so you know they didn't pull a fast one on ya.

And this is why, I asked for extra bread (that little mini loaf thing) the last time I was out with those kind of folks. Asked for some pepper too. Got the bread, buttered it, peppered it heavily and put my "petite filet" right in between that whole loaf, and made a steak sandwhich. The florets d'jour got bulldozed onto the bread plate and got taken away, at my request.

I really like a good ".45". Don't needa be frilly. It can be, but don't need to be. Don't need to be GI standard. But the same applies. Not too picky. But its gotta be made to shoot, made to work, made to be carried and trusted. You gotta be able to sweat on it on a hot day. Its gotta be the kind of gun that says you mean business, not the kind the bad guy wants to admire as you point it at his forehead. It has to be the kind of gun that all the folks previously mentioned woud shoot. I can see, in my minds theater, John Wayne getting handed some $2500 derivitave of the classic slabside and saying "does thing thing actually shoot?", even as the bad guys were raining lead all around. A ".45" has to have balls, not a skirt.


And they used to. Lots still do. But lots more got lost. They lost their way in the yuppified frenzy that seems to have have hit good guitars, good motorcycles, and good guns. Sad.

I'll keep making steak sandwiches, eatin' Jeanie's spaghetti and meatballs, and remembering the days when it was all the right thing to do.

[muggsy]

A good likeness to my current zest for spaghetti, Tinman. :)

[muggsy]

Your my kinda guy. CJB. A guy's guy. I'd tip a Bud with you anytime. And not the lite kind.

[AJBert]

CJB, now I understand what you were trying to get at in your first post! Sorry if I came off a bit standoffish before.

And I'm with you all the way. All my firearms are shooters, with a few exceptions due to age and I wouldn't trust them not to blow up in my face. As far as food goes, I ate at one of them fancy eateries once and ordered a fancy fillet of some kind of steak. The waiter took offense when I asked for some steak sauce. I reminded him who was paying for the steak and he promptly got me my sauce.

[CJB]

TY!~

I think it boils down to this - they've metrosexualized my ".45"'s and spaghetti.

[yqtszhj]

metrosexualized

When I heard what metrosexual meant all I could think was what's the world coming to men are like that and proud of it?????

I'm kinda of the Duck Dynasty mentality myself.

[JohnR]

All I know is, my 1911 is my only gun that can do this without me trying really hard.http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/19/a6umy8yg.jpg

[Bawanna]

I've never been able to get a solid ear shot like that even on my best day.

That's some good shooting right there. I need to practice some more I think.

[JohnR]

I've never been able to get a solid ear shot like that even on my best day.

That's some good shooting right there. I need to practice some more I think.

He had one of those metal ring thingies in his ear, and those just kinda bug me. Had to shoot it off of him.

Now you know the meaning of the phrase, "Within earshot." :cool:

[Bawanna]

Nice, I hate those ear thingy's on guys too. Too girlyman.