gun papa
08-15-2013, 12:29 PM
I have a CZ-83 that I have had for almost two decades. The CZ will feed a brick if you could load it in the magazine.
My Wife wanted something to replace her G26. Something smaller, and liked the P380 out of all of the other guns she picked up.
I have read all of the goods and the bads prior to buying the gun. My main concerns for my Wife was recoil which was not an issue once the gun was fired.
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My impressions of the gun to look at it is, that I am inamered by it. The fit and finish are excellent. Even with big hands I can handle the gun and shoot it with comfort and without issue.
The gun is tight. The barrel lock up is the best that I have seen. ZERO movement. The mag button is tight and requires me to alter the grip to release the magazine, (which is not an issue as this is hardly a gun that you would stand and fight with, like the G26 was). On this gun, my opinion is that it is better to have a tight release than a loose one.
Trigger. The P380 is the first Kahr I have had my hands on. I have heard rave reviews of the Kahr triggers. The trigger is smooth with most of the weight of the pull occurs within the first 1/3 of the travel. If this was a bigger pistol I probably would be unhappy with it as I am not used to the longer pull similar, but not as long of a travel as a revolver. However, for this micro gun, the trigger is perfect.
Recoil- Recoil is nothing. Unmemorable. No sting, no web redness. I dig it, and more importantly, so does the Wife. You could shoot this gun all day long and enjoy it.
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Accuracy- I understand that this is, and is intended for our purposes, a belly gun meant to get you out of a jam and arms distance, and enable you the opportunity to escape. I get that. Man, am I impressed with the ability for accuracy. I shoot out at the desert about a mile from my house. In the distance sat a 5 gallon bucket. I held point of aim, and I could hit the bucket every shot with ease. I paced it off at 50 yards. That is danm impressive for such a short barrel and short sight radius.
Reliability and ammo. Again, I had read a lot of bad about the reliability. Again, I understand the break in period of approx. 200 rds. I stripped and cleaned the gun prior to shooting it. I ran Azoom snap caps through her for a while, and then went out to shoot it. I had a 100rd box of Winchester white box and some Herters .380.
I was surprized that Winchester loaded .380's with a flat nosed truncated bullet, and I thought it may cause feed issues. Surprisingly, the gun likes truncated bullets. The gun did have some FTF, FTRB, and FTLSB issues. The FTF's were stoppages as the rear of the case catches as it slides against the bolt face. This smoothed out with use. The gun HATES the Herters rounds. I had never shot these, and have always looked at them suspect. Turns out, the rounds are out of spec, and sereral per box would not seat in a case guage. No more Herters.
The gun also seemed to like my 95gr ball handloads with ease and without incident.
The gun seems to like hollow points as it digested Federal Hydro Shoks. We are only 120 rounds through the gun. I would not call the gun reliable, but I am happy to break her in.
I have regular fail to lock back the slide on empty mag. I just do not think the slide is travelling all the way to the rear since the recoil springs are new.
My local Wal Mart has ammo, and I seem to understand their delivery schedule so furnishing a regular stream of WWB should not be an issue. At this time there is a two box limit, but with 100rd boxes of .380, that is fine.
I am willing to give this gun time to break in. I like shooting it. I would not carry it yet, but, I will see how it goes. papa
My Wife wanted something to replace her G26. Something smaller, and liked the P380 out of all of the other guns she picked up.
I have read all of the goods and the bads prior to buying the gun. My main concerns for my Wife was recoil which was not an issue once the gun was fired.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/gunpapa/f58eb5de-1903-45dc-afef-5127c279eb27_zpsb21d62e9.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/gunpapa/media/f58eb5de-1903-45dc-afef-5127c279eb27_zpsb21d62e9.jpg.html)
My impressions of the gun to look at it is, that I am inamered by it. The fit and finish are excellent. Even with big hands I can handle the gun and shoot it with comfort and without issue.
The gun is tight. The barrel lock up is the best that I have seen. ZERO movement. The mag button is tight and requires me to alter the grip to release the magazine, (which is not an issue as this is hardly a gun that you would stand and fight with, like the G26 was). On this gun, my opinion is that it is better to have a tight release than a loose one.
Trigger. The P380 is the first Kahr I have had my hands on. I have heard rave reviews of the Kahr triggers. The trigger is smooth with most of the weight of the pull occurs within the first 1/3 of the travel. If this was a bigger pistol I probably would be unhappy with it as I am not used to the longer pull similar, but not as long of a travel as a revolver. However, for this micro gun, the trigger is perfect.
Recoil- Recoil is nothing. Unmemorable. No sting, no web redness. I dig it, and more importantly, so does the Wife. You could shoot this gun all day long and enjoy it.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/gunpapa/photobucket-27215-1375769319888_zps2bc5af07.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/gunpapa/media/photobucket-27215-1375769319888_zps2bc5af07.jpg.html)
Accuracy- I understand that this is, and is intended for our purposes, a belly gun meant to get you out of a jam and arms distance, and enable you the opportunity to escape. I get that. Man, am I impressed with the ability for accuracy. I shoot out at the desert about a mile from my house. In the distance sat a 5 gallon bucket. I held point of aim, and I could hit the bucket every shot with ease. I paced it off at 50 yards. That is danm impressive for such a short barrel and short sight radius.
Reliability and ammo. Again, I had read a lot of bad about the reliability. Again, I understand the break in period of approx. 200 rds. I stripped and cleaned the gun prior to shooting it. I ran Azoom snap caps through her for a while, and then went out to shoot it. I had a 100rd box of Winchester white box and some Herters .380.
I was surprized that Winchester loaded .380's with a flat nosed truncated bullet, and I thought it may cause feed issues. Surprisingly, the gun likes truncated bullets. The gun did have some FTF, FTRB, and FTLSB issues. The FTF's were stoppages as the rear of the case catches as it slides against the bolt face. This smoothed out with use. The gun HATES the Herters rounds. I had never shot these, and have always looked at them suspect. Turns out, the rounds are out of spec, and sereral per box would not seat in a case guage. No more Herters.
The gun also seemed to like my 95gr ball handloads with ease and without incident.
The gun seems to like hollow points as it digested Federal Hydro Shoks. We are only 120 rounds through the gun. I would not call the gun reliable, but I am happy to break her in.
I have regular fail to lock back the slide on empty mag. I just do not think the slide is travelling all the way to the rear since the recoil springs are new.
My local Wal Mart has ammo, and I seem to understand their delivery schedule so furnishing a regular stream of WWB should not be an issue. At this time there is a two box limit, but with 100rd boxes of .380, that is fine.
I am willing to give this gun time to break in. I like shooting it. I would not carry it yet, but, I will see how it goes. papa