Another recall - Springfield XDS

[Glock23]

FYI...

http://gunssavelives.net/gun-industry/breaking-springfield-issues-safety-recall-for-xds-9-and-xds-45-pistols/

[gb6491]

Thanks for the "heads up", looks like my XD-S well be headed back to Geneseo. Oh well, it never did unseat my CW45 for carry purposes.
Regards,
Greg

[RRP]

Not a good week for single-stack compacts.

[Popeye]

Got my Fed Ex return label this morning. Darned shame as the pistol has been nothing short of being perfect at the range.:( Can't complain to much as they saw a potential problem and are taking care of it. Looks like I'll be carrying my G26 and CZ82 a lot more till I get it back.;)

[AIRret]

Thanks for the heads up Glock 23. We've been out of town and I was unaware of the recall!

[gb6491]

I'm not really liking the location of the roll pin in the grip safety as part of the recall's fix: http://www.springfieldrecall.com/TechnicalBackground.asp

Reading on another forum, it seems one gent had his XD-S go full auto on him when he released the slide:eek:

Regards,
Greg

[muggsy]

Thanks for the heads-up. One of my kids owns an XD.

[berettabone]

Never liked firearms with grip safeties............................

[BEARDOG]

I'm not really liking the location of the roll pin in the grip safety as part of the recall's fix: http://www.springfieldrecall.com/TechnicalBackground.asp

Regards,
Greg

Oh Greg don't be silly...What could possibly go wrong with a roll pin being put there??? :rolleyes:...:eek:

I don't have an XD-S (yet) but, I do have an XDM 40 4.5" that is my main HD pistol. It sure would not have inspired confidence if they had put a roll pin across the grip safety on it to me either...I would be keeping a close eye on that safety "upgrade" if it were mine.

In fact, the one thing I changed on my XDM (even though I never had a problem myself) just for peace of mind, was to put in a much stronger "spiral" type striker retainer pin. The regular slotted type spring pin they used has a known issue with breaking at that location. Totally different pins, and guns, but still....

[jocko]

whatis the smith warning on the shield????

[jocko]

is that roll pin in the grip safety AN ACTUAL FIX or is a visible indication that a fix has been done on the gun? wHAT WOULD THAT ROLL PIN IN THAT AREA HAV E TO DO WITH ANYTHING??/i DON';T KNOW THE INTERNALS OF THAT EITHER, so Iam surmising

gee and here I thought only kahrs had issues...

[mr surveyor]

I thought only Kel-Tec's had issues

[Bawanna]

I guess my son's needs to go back too. It's close the lower end of the serial scale.

Seems like a silly place to put a roll pin to me.

[mr surveyor]

I downloaded the Springfield supplied shipping label and shipping instructions last night .... had to drive to the "big town" to go directly to a fed-x shipping center, but my two week old XDs is on it's way to the mother ship. It won't cause me any hardship as it has not replaced my current daily carry tools yet.

I'm still under the assumption that this was all caused by the one particular case spouted all over the internet about a slam fire/double fire. No doubt there were probably quite a few "me too's" that added gasoline to the flames and Springfield may have decided to blow eight to ten million on a PR type recall. There may in fact be a safety issue, I don't know. I do know that I was becoming quite fond of mine and about to start tracking down some leather. I started to just blow it off and not worry about it, then decided with some 187,000 copies in the recall to go ahead and get in on the very front of the line now in case I changed my mind next month.

[jocko]

remember the Ruger single action recalls 40+_ years ago. they had a few ND's but they also knoew they had a potential safe4ty issue. Just sumpin these companies have to get handled ASAP. to avoid future litigation and to show good faith to. If there was issues and it was later on found out that the copany was made aware of it and did nadda. well, it could end a companies career fast. Lets remember the Ruger lcp had a 50K gun recall due to a possble drop dafety and I don't think they ever had one issue either, but Ruger found it themselves after they so fast copied the kel tek 380. Its the right thing to do for good companies. Costly for sure but if should not hurt a good companies name if theyt address it as they are doing. Sh!t happens. Not all engineers finished first in their class either. Just sayin.

All the inhouse testing these companies do cannot duplicate "stupidity" of some owners either.

I would love to know what the roll pin in that area is there for. One would think it ust attach itself to sumpin inside that frame, but what??.

what about the Smith Shield, is what they are saying a possable recall issue. ????

[Bawanna]

Remington seems to have gotten away with it with the "Walker" trigger.

Probably a rare thing.

[gb6491]

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what about the Smith Shield, is what they are saying a possable recall issue. ????
So far they are calling it a "safety alert".
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_791654_-1_757978_757978_image
In this video they say they believe the "condition is largely limited to recently manufactured M&P Shield pistols."
http://www.youtube.com/embed/jsQWGS-P9Pk?rel=0
I dodged the bullet on this one as my Shield tested OK.
Regards,
Greg

[jocko]

Makes u wonder to as with Remingotn, . They throughly tested the trigger and they say no harm no foul. Makes one wonder that when we readof like the XD thing andit being one or two guns if not maytbe those two guns were defective in the first place and sometimes with the same parts in a mechanism, that seems to work right that those parts when correctly wrong can produce an incident that no testing could have found. Just sayin.

The Ithac model 37 pump since the day it was made by Ithaca had a bump fire in it. there was not trigger inetrrupter in thier model 37's. if u hld the trigger back and pumped it it woulde in many cases fire. they never corrected it and to my knowledge I never heard of anyone shooting themselves with it and the made over 1.5million.

We can always assume what XD maybe should have done but u know when we assume it normally makes an ass out of u and me..

colonel u are our go to man here4, so I want to know what the roll pin does. get on it, u have a lousy desk job which requires no real thinkin on ur part, so time is on ur side. Just sayin

[mr surveyor]

we still have a mint condition 1971-72 model Ruger Single Action Six "convertible" that we refused to send back for the "new fangled safety".

[gb6491]

Remington seems to have gotten away with it with the "Walker" trigger.

Probably a rare thing.
It's all in the adjustment of that trigger, but I believe they've replaced it with the "X Mark Pro" trigger.
I'll tell you it gets your attention when .308 round touches off as you close the bolt on a 700. In my case it seems the thread locker on my LTR had deteriorated and an adjustment screw worked loose (trigger was already set to the lower end in weight/break). I still use that trigger but with a different thread locker (probably should put a Jewell or Timney in there).
Regards,
Greg

[jocko]

we still have a mint condition 1971-72 model Ruger Single Action Six "convertible" that we refused to send back for the "new fangled safety".

to remember though that if u sent it back they would install the new safety trigger and stillgiveu back the original parts, . there wasno interanal modifications just the hammer block. Many did not send um b ack and Rugert spend millions in advertisng for many years even to recall all that they could to.

[jocko]

So far they are calling it a "safety alert".
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_791654_-1_757978_757978_image
In this video they say they believe the "condition is largely limited to recently manufactured M&P Shield pistols."
http://www.youtube.com/embed/jsQWGS-P9Pk?rel=0
I dodged the bullet on this one as my Shield tested OK.
Regards,
Greg

one wonder if being that trigger is polymer that maybe some shaving or mold issues is interupting this safetry system. damn just not to much there to go wrong. Has to be a binding situation of some sort...... :amflag:

[Popeye]

I've toyed with the idea of not sending my XDS back, Because mine shows no signs of any problems after 400 + rounds. If I ever sold it though I might get burnt for not sending it back for the upgrade. So it's going back tomorrow.:(

[mr surveyor]

to remember though that if u sent it back they would install the new safety trigger and stillgiveu back the original parts, . there wasno interanal modifications just the hammer block. Many did not send um b ack and Rugert spend millions in advertisng for many years even to recall all that they could to.

we knew how to properly load one up for "field carry" so it didn't really matter.

[Bawanna]

we knew how to properly load one up for "field carry" so it didn't really matter.

Awww, the good ole days.

[mr surveyor]

wow ... I still tote an old Marlin .30-30 without the use of a cross bolt safety.

Guess I'm just one of the lucky millions that survived in spite of myself

[jocko]

I've toyed with the idea of not sending my XDS back, Because mine shows no signs of any problems after 400 + rounds. If I ever sold it though I might get burnt for not sending it back for the upgrade. So it's going back tomorrow.:(

WHY CHANCE IT, not a big deal. it will get fixed and a few months from now, no one will even remember it. It never hurt Ruger lcp sales when they recalled their little gun that could but maybe couldn't. Hell cars do it all the time. If it is a safety thing, like this then IMO a send back is not in question..If it is such a thing as an upgrade as sumpin like kahr did when they went to the steel over polymer mag catch, then if it ain't broke don't fix it.

back in the day our store sent many Ruger single sixes back for the safety upgrade. Made sense to me . Some did back then just carried with an empty chamber which made zero sense to me, as u went from a six shooter to a five shooter,

[downtownv]

Some did back then just carried with an empty chamber which made zero sense to me, as u went from a six shooter to a five shooter,

jocko, you talking about guns or your sexual performance?:confused:

[jocko]

I have a pee shooter,one shot but most never ask for a second. Just sayin

u @*$#*@ smart ass!!

[downtownv]

I have a pee shooter,one shot but most never ask for a second. Just sayin

u @*$#*@ smart ass!!

Who were those girls in your pool?:behindsofa:

[yqtszhj]

Looks like mine is going back. My Kahr is still running good though....

I wonder how long it will take to get it back?

[Popeye]

WHY CHANCE IT, not a big deal. it will get fixed and a few months from now, no one will even remember it. It never hurt Ruger lcp sales when they recalled their little gun that could but maybe couldn't. Hell cars do it all the time. If it is a safety thing, like this then IMO a send back is not in question..If it is such a thing as an upgrade as sumpin like kahr did when they went to the steel over polymer mag catch, then if it ain't broke don't fix it.

back in the day our store sent many Ruger single sixes back for the safety upgrade. Made sense to me . Some did back then just carried with an empty chamber which made zero sense to me, as u went from a six shooter to a five shooter,
Your right Jocko It goes back tomorrow via Fed Ex.

[Barth]

I've come close to getting a XDs 45.
But my all stainless Kahr MK40 Elite will have no part of it - LOL!

As long as my Elite continues to run like a Swiss clock - I'm good.

[JimC]

My LGS gave me very good OTD price on the XDs .45 a week or so ago however he didn't have one in stock but had them on order.

I was suppose to check back with him in a few days but now I think I'll wait and see how this all works out. :(

FWIW, I've read on the XD Talk Forums that the roll pin in the GS holds a part or is connected to a part that blocks debris from entering the sear area.

Good for SA for stepping up and making the correction to their product before something negative actually happens.